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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 18:43:00 »
I just don't think their goals and attitudes line up with the goals of the LGB community as a whole.

How is it that you have formed an opinion on the subject to begin with, on such a specific subset of that particular acceptance movement ?






Because I'm a human living on planet Earth? I didn't know I wasn't qualified to have any opinions.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 19:02:01 »
Because I'm a human living on planet Earth? I didn't know I wasn't qualified to have any opinions.

Never said you weren't qualified to have an opinion.

The question is, how is it that NT has come to be so invested in the topic of the trans-gender social-movement.

NT mentioned it multiple times on this forum, thought it was just a passing news-reel the first few times, but it does seem NT possesses persistent interest in transgender politics.

That is the mystery Tp4 am interested in.

For example:

Tp4 never goes outside, Tp4 would never be exposed to basketball , to ask a specific basketball question, such as, which company makes the best basketball hoop nets.

If y'all guyzus ever see Tp4 ask about anything sp0rts related, Tp4 = Murdered + Accoutn Ha(ked.


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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 19:04:11 »
Both you guys are out of your minds  :p

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 19:59:51 »
Because I'm a human living on planet Earth? I didn't know I wasn't qualified to have any opinions.

NT mentioned it multiple times on this forum, thought it was just a passing news-reel the first few times, but it does seem NT possesses persistent interest in transgender politics.



Multiple times? I think it's the first time I've brought it up, but the gaming industry in the PNW has a surprising amount of LGBT people working in it. 95% of them are totally professional and know it has zero bearing on their work, ability to perform, and professional relationships.
Then there are the 5% who make everything about themselves. 100% of the time, at least in my experience, those who are self-centric and itching to file complaints always fall under the T label.

Whatever, it's an unpopular opinion, which is why it's here. Or is it unpopular because people feel scared and uneasy talking about race, politics, and sexuality at all so the very subject or having any differing opinion is considered wrong? No concepts are truly black and white.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 25 January 2020, 01:31:26 »
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 25 January 2020, 02:38:00 »
hmmmmm

https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

A fair amount of common sense in there, and a point made by it's very existence in a place that's supposed to be on technical issues.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 25 January 2020, 08:01:07 »

I just don't think their goals and attitudes line up with the goals of the LGB community as a whole.


I thought that it is all about the "inalienable right" to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
"I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air. A windmill will kill many bald eagles. After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?" - Donald Trump - Turning Point USA speech - 2019-12-22

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 25 January 2020, 12:23:42 »

I just don't think their goals and attitudes line up with the goals of the LGB community as a whole.

It's a group identified by their sexual identity who are trying to get recognition, acceptance and equal rights - I'm not really sure how that's so different to be honest.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 26 January 2020, 13:46:40 »

I just don't think their goals and attitudes line up with the goals of the LGB community as a whole.

It's a group identified by their sexual identity who are trying to get recognition, acceptance and equal rights - I'm not really sure how that's so different to be honest.

It is different though. The other letters are all groups differentiated by their sexual attraction, not their sexual identity (I get the feeling someone will say, "but sexual attraction is part of one's identity", which would seem like intentionally missing my point).

This is a whole different set of ideas that is a lot more confusing and nuanced than "I am a man who likes to have sex with men", for example, and thus slows down progress for the rest by lumping in that complexity. I think that's what he's getting at.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 26 January 2020, 16:01:12 »

groups differentiated by their sexual attraction, not their sexual identity

This is a whole different set of ideas that is a lot more confusing and nuanced


As a parent of college students in their 20s, I can tell you that "kids nowadays" are seemingly less obsessed with actually having sex than we were, and that the issues of (1) attraction, (2) activity, and (3) identity are quite distinct and important to them.

No, I do not understand it at all, even though I have tried hard, as a pure straight unadulterated unreformed "cis" male whose identity, attractions, desires, and expressions are all tightly knit, but I also understand that I do not understand this entirely different worldview that is so natural and effortless to kids today.
"I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air. A windmill will kill many bald eagles. After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?" - Donald Trump - Turning Point USA speech - 2019-12-22

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 26 January 2020, 21:00:27 »

groups differentiated by their sexual attraction, not their sexual identity

This is a whole different set of ideas that is a lot more confusing and nuanced


As a parent of college students in their 20s, I can tell you that "kids nowadays" are seemingly less obsessed with actually having sex than we were, and that the issues of (1) attraction, (2) activity, and (3) identity are quite distinct and important to them.

No, I do not understand it at all, even though I have tried hard, as a pure straight unadulterated unreformed "cis" male whose identity, attractions, desires, and expressions are all tightly knit, but I also understand that I do not understand this entirely different worldview that is so natural and effortless to kids today.

Fohat, except that my children are a half a generation older than yours, I could have written your comments. Why do you think there has been such a huge shift in recent generation’s perspectives? Do you think it’s biological, like chemicals in our food or the rapidly declining sperm and testosterone levels in boys? Disenchantment in the opposite sex caused by poor examples of failed relationships or an over abundance of options? The safety of living independent, virtual lives, without the messiness that comes with interpersonal relationships? Societal shifts in desired life goals? Maybe a combination of the above? I don’t know.

On a positive note, it’s  possible that this trend may self-correct the problem of over-population.





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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 06:14:34 »
Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the Star Wars universe.

He's also the best bounty hunter character in LST the complete saga so try me

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:33:21 »

The safety of living independent, virtual lives, without the messiness that comes with interpersonal relationships?


All of the above, but if I had to put my money on just one, it would be this.
"I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air. A windmill will kill many bald eagles. After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?" - Donald Trump - Turning Point USA speech - 2019-12-22

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 15:59:07 »
Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the Star Wars universe.

He's also the best bounty hunter character in LST the complete saga so try me

Clearly you've suffered some sort of brain malady, because as everyone knows IG-88 is the coolest bounty hunter. Boba didn't come within seconds of taking over a Death Star and destroying all organic life in the galaxy.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 09:22:19 »
Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the Star Wars universe.

He's also the best bounty hunter character in LST the complete saga so try me

Clearly you've suffered some sort of brain malady, because as everyone knows IG-88 is the coolest bounty hunter. Boba didn't come within seconds of taking over a Death Star and destroying all organic life in the galaxy.

The death star does not have enough pwoer to do that.

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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 15:40:14 »
Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the Star Wars universe.

He's also the best bounty hunter character in LST the complete saga so try me

Clearly you've suffered some sort of brain malady, because as everyone knows IG-88 is the coolest bounty hunter. Boba didn't come within seconds of taking over a Death Star and destroying all organic life in the galaxy.

The death star does not have enough pwoer to do that.

With the DS they would assume control of manufacturing planets and build an army of DS in record time using AI-controlled droids. The Imperial engineers suck compared to a couple planets full of droids. Plus IG likely would have kept upgrading and improving, creating more and more of himself until his conscious was uploaded to nearly every droid in the galaxy. He was EASILY the most dangerous bounty hunter of that time (Dirge is long dead) and if not being in the wrong place at the wrong time would have succeeded. Stupid Rebels had their plans on non-linked outdated tech on Hoth, IG would have never known they were coming unless he'd ever been on Hoth before the attack.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 16:01:20 »

With the DS they would assume control of manufacturing planets and build an army of DS in record time using AI-controlled droids. The Imperial engineers suck compared to a couple planets full of droids. Plus IG likely would have kept upgrading and improving, creating more and more of himself until his conscious was uploaded to nearly every droid in the galaxy. He was EASILY the most dangerous bounty hunter of that time (Dirge is long dead) and if not being in the wrong place at the wrong time would have succeeded. Stupid Rebels had their plans on non-linked outdated tech on Hoth, IG would have never known they were coming unless he'd ever been on Hoth before the attack.


What is the Deathstar's maximum hyperspace speed ?

I don't think the distance between life expansion can be gaped.