Pandemic, We're Lucky, and We're Not. [Text Wall]

[tp4tissue]

The fall-out of the current pandemic in US is terrible, and yea one can blame the administration.

In many ways We are still lucky it is Sars-Cov-2 (Covid 19), and Not Mers COV, or H5N1 or H7N9, <these other viruses already exist which have mortality rates of 20-50%, vs 0.6-1% of Covid 19>

Here's the thing, It could easily have been one of those other COVs (which has killed 10s of thousands of people on their own). <they don't transmit as efficiently as covid19>

We're lucky, because the lights are still on, the doctors/nurses can still work, the nooqular technicians are still watching the reactors.

Imagine a 20-50% mortality virus that has the same Transmission ability of the current Covid 19.

What is often neglected is, The super deadly virus variation already exists, as in, that bullet has already been cast and Loaded in the chamber,  It's just a matter of time before nature pulls the trigger.

ALL of the most deadly of humanity's plagues have been the result of Animal-Agriculture.

We pump about 50,000,000,000 (50 Billion) chickens a year (world wide) in this Bio-evolutionary experiment. @ this order of magnitude, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of WHEN, and in the coming years, it's a matter of SOOON.

Influenza 1918 (spanish flu): USA Kansas, Ducks, killed 50 Million people

Measles: Cows/Pigs, killed 200 Million people

Smallpox: Camels, killed 500 Million people

Hiv Aids: (bush meat) gorilla/chimp killed 25 Million people

Swine Flu from pigs:  Killed 110,000 people

Whopping cough: pigs Killed Millions (historically), ~ 138,000 in 1990.

Ebola: (bush meat)   Killed 11,000 people

Typhoid: chicken,  Kills 22,000 Annually.

[noisyturtle]

Did you see those geniuses in MI blocking ambulances from accessing the hospital? This is just causing more of a divide in the US just like everything else even when it comes to what you'd assume to be common sense.
If I were a tin foil connoisseur I'd reckon some powers are either setting up the nation for a civil war, or systematically desensitizing everyone for the eventual restructure of basic freedoms. But hey, that's crazy, right?

[tp4tissue]

Did you see those geniuses in MI blocking ambulances from accessing the hospital? This is just causing more of a divide in the US just like everything else even when it comes to what you'd assume to be common sense.
If I were a tin foil connoisseur I'd reckon some powers are either setting up the nation for a civil war, or systematically desensitizing everyone for the eventual restructure of basic freedoms. But hey, that's crazy, right?

Tp4 is a huge conspiracy Fan. Throughout the years, Tp4 has entertained numerous theories about WHY the world is so odd.

The reality though, in the highest probability, it's alot simpler than what the conspiracy theorists would like to believe.

It's more profitable to treat diabetes for life, than it is to cure it. (which they have, we've known since the 1970s how to do cure diabetes type 2)

The only way the majority of the traditional privileged economic powers can be maintained is through systemic sickness.  This sickness for the poor is actual physical ailments, but for the wealthy, it's a more cerebral sickness, the desire for more wealth/ power which can neither be spent nor exercised.   You can buy a giant house, you can only occupy / utilize 1 or 2 rooms. Satellite imagery definitively proves, the majority of large homes are thoroughly underutilized, even small 3000sqft homes.

With money and power, rich people are biting off alot, but they can't actually chew and certainly not swallow it. But this process motivates the serious real problems in the poor-class which they lead.

[noisyturtle]

One of my biggest fears for the near-future is the disappearance of the middle class.

[tp4tissue]

One of my biggest fears for the near-future is the disappearance of the middle class.

This will not happen as long as we're still using capitalism.

The only reason your boss makes more than you, is because HIS BOSS makes more than Your Boss.

It's a top down oppressive structure. There will always be a middle because it takes a minimum amount of Middle to Oppress an even larger lower class.

Tp4 would welcome communism, if only we can only vote Alpha Go for President.

[yui]

you read too much Asimov TP, the AI is not president material yet (Ok a few elected presidents are not either) Asimov used the 3 laws to make sure the AI would build a perfect world, with the way we build AI currently, the best case is probably killing every human to achieve peace... and no one in the field is even remotely interested in even trying to integrate the 3 laws, so not yet

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 is just giving an example of where it needs to go; the Kind of Objectiveness and Omniscience required to Manage the self aware super-organism that is Earth-Bio-Sphere.

[fohat.digs]

One of my biggest fears for the near-future is the disappearance of the middle class.

Redistribution of wealth and power is the moral imperative of our age.

The Rabid Right has closed their minds as a matter of principle, but perhaps rational people will begin to open their eyes.

[tp4tissue]

Redistribution of wealth and power is the moral imperative of our age.

The Rabid Right has closed their minds as a matter of principle, but perhaps rational people will begin to open their eyes.

Redistribution of power would be detrimental.

End animal agriculture, it will solve 90% of humanity's most dire problems. Pandemic, CO2 Sequestration (environment), Land dispute, Land use.

Equality's nice, but it is NOT-Time-Efficient, and we're Out of Time.

It is stupefying to think that we can get people to AGREE to care about the environment.  As a government, they have to draw the line, and make people DO IT.

If we had 1000 years to do it, maybe there's another way,  AS IS, we do not have that luxury.  if it's not done by 2050, straight up everything dies.



Just look at this pandemic, if we left it up to the people, all the idiotic young people would be out partying, and all the old people, including our Fohat, would be dead with coronavirus.

The ideal Fantasy situation in face of Coronavirus would be to appoint Dr.Fauci King of America for the next 10 years.

Right now, for the moment, we don't need rights, we need efficiency. America can always revolt later and take rights back, ONLY if we're alive.

[tp4tissue]

Sigh...   Welp..  that's that,  we're all gonna die because Florida.  Remember georgebush, that was them too.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-beaches-florida-moron-twitter-1498750

I don'understand, reports of 2600+ people dying a day from Korona, that's a 9.11 every day, for MONTHS to come,  and these people go to the beach ??

I want to blame public education like I normally do for this sort of thing,  But it can't be this bad, what is going on.

[fohat.digs]

relax

[ArchDill]

The aftermath of this will be interesting. I do not think that work and education will ever be the same. A lot of people will not get their jobs back, more jobs will become remote work and/or contract labor. I think education will be pushed more online.

[tp4tissue]

The aftermath of this will be interesting. I do not think that work and education will ever be the same. A lot of people will not get their jobs back, more jobs will become remote work and/or contract labor. I think education will be pushed more online.

This is either our Neo-Renaissance or Final-Cataclysm.

[Sintpinty]

The aftermath of this will be interesting. I do not think that work and education will ever be the same. A lot of people will not get their jobs back, more jobs will become remote work and/or contract labor. I think education will be pushed more online.

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[Rob27shred]

relax

Zing

[Sniping]

The aftermath of this will be interesting. I do not think that work and education will ever be the same. A lot of people will not get their jobs back, more jobs will become remote work and/or contract labor. I think education will be pushed more online.

For me it's really hard to imagine how long before we'll have normal large sized events again. I'm thinking like sporting events in a stadium or a music festival. It kind of scares me that complete normalcy almost seems certainly years away at this point.

[ArchDill]

The aftermath of this will be interesting. I do not think that work and education will ever be the same. A lot of people will not get their jobs back, more jobs will become remote work and/or contract labor. I think education will be pushed more online.

For me it's really hard to imagine how long before we'll have normal large sized events again. I'm thinking like sporting events in a stadium or a music festival. It kind of scares me that complete normalcy almost seems certainly years away at this point.

I agree. I think even theaters will not be safe again for awhile. The future is here, concerning streaming movies.

[tp4tissue]

I agree. I think even theaters will not be safe again for awhile. The future is here, concerning streaming movies.

I don't even think making movies (in the modern sense) is possible with this hanging over us.

The entirety of Modern Humanity will change.


See, the first wave of the Spanish Flu was bad, but not Killtacular.  The SECOND wave which mutated out of (Europe) was Super-OP.. This was the apocalypse of the era.  24hr to Kill from first infection.

THEN, a third wave out of Australia cycled back through Europe then Murica.

The third wave was just as OP as the mutated second wave, but we were already on Lockdown by then, so it didn't kill as many.

Between 50-100 Million Killed,  ~1.5-3% of the 1918-1919 population.


If we don't have a working vaccine, expect indoor-life for the rest of our lives.