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yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 14:10:14 »
Update:   OH MY GAWD...

ABOVE 2080TI  performance @ ALL PRICE LEVELS  $500, $700, $1499.

3070,3080,3090, ALL > 2080Ti


THIS IS A  GPU RENAISSANCE






Leaked specs,  https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-and-geforce-rtx-3080-specifications-leaked

Leaked performance <RUMOR> 1.3x  2080ti.  4x Raytrace performance.  ~28900 passmark

Amd Big Navi <RUMOR> 2x 5700xt,  ~32000 passmark bench


NVDA Stonks + 3.92% , through the r00f.

Which card you guys holdn' out fer ??



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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 14:53:24 »
Trusting that site is like trusting wccftech or whatever.
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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 14:57:16 »
Trusting that site is like trusting wccftech or whatever.

Agreed, But the rumor is extremely close to the real release, so it's quite likely a publicity stunt, vs an actual leak.

Journalistic Leak has really been reduced to a form of advertisement these days.


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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 20:38:33 »
Now i have to save another 400 dollars for a top of the line graphics card, dammit.

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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 20:57:22 »
Now i have to save another 400 dollars for a top of the line graphics card, dammit.

Rumored price $1400,  not insane, but would prefer $600

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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:42:37 »
It's not JeeTeeEEhks, it's ArrTeeEks....and though I'm due for a GPU upgrade, my RX VEGA64's and GTX1080 are kinda showing their age, I'm gonna hold out till Big Navi hits the scene, will compare benchmarks (RTX3090/RTX3080 Ti vs Big Navi) and see which would offer a better price/performance ratio.
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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 02:14:31 »
this thread title gave me ****ing cancer

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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:05:34 »
this thread title gave me ****ing cancer
Honestly didn't even know wtf it meant until I went into the thread.

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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:10:45 »
Wanting to hold out for that upcoming 3080 20GB model to see how much it'll retail at (or if it'll even fit in the case).

It's not JeeTeeEEhks, it's ArrTeeEks....

Also this
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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:24:30 »
Which card you guys holdn' out fer ??
Not those.
They can take a hike with those prices.

They got addicted to high profit with the mining craze and I seriously hope almost no one buys the 80 or 90 but you know they will.
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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:31:08 »
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 06:31:18 »
Wanting to hold out for that upcoming 3080 20GB model to see how much it'll retail at (or if it'll even fit in the case).

It's not JeeTeeEEhks, it's ArrTeeEks....

Also this

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 06:34:53 »
Which card you guys holdn' out fer ??
Not those.
They can take a hike with those prices.

They got addicted to high profit with the mining craze and I seriously hope almost no one buys the 80 or 90 but you know they will.

Mining isn't why.

It's really APPLE's fault,  they're the ones who began heavily skewing the electronics profit margin with their $1000+ Iphone.

Over time, for example, APPLE could BUY / Absorb Nvidia,  if Nvidia didn't raise prices.   This was a necessary corporate move.

You can rank the Power of a Company this way,  The Percentage of your income THEY-Take is their strength relative to other companies.

If Apple, giving you LESS, takes MORE OF your Income, overtime, Apple will become Disproportionately Powerful RELATIVE to Nvidia.

This is why CIGARETTE Companies and potentially Marijuana companies will become Disruptive, because their product costs next to nothing to produce, Yet they pull a HUGE chunk of cash in from the consumer. 

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 19:30:52 »
Mulling it over,  It's rumored triple slot. that's gonna block a whole pcie x16 port on alot of boards.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 20:56:02 »
I don't think that's an issue, unless a sound card is a must for you....even then, might fit an eATX mobo. But, in my neck of the woods, the RTX3090 would be more pricey than 1400USD, due to distributers imposing a high premium over cost price. That's why I hope AMD's big Navi can at least pose a big enough threat for nGreedia to get real with its pricing policy....yes, I have a right to dream, don't I?

Edit - Since hardly anyone is using SLi these days, and support for SLi/CF is pretty much dead, a single powerful card is the way to go. That the RTX3090 takes up three slots and blocks off some PCIe slots is moot....
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 00:54:43 »
Looking like the 12-pin rumor is true. Why in the actual ****?
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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 05:00:59 »
Some claim it's because normal wires can't flow enough power, even if you change the guage there's no reason 12 handles more than dual 8 pin if it's the same connector.

My guess is that it matches the new mobo power connector cables, which would be be nice if all of them were the same.
Would be nice if they could standardize it on the other end as well so cables were universal.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 06:42:20 »
I'm holding out for a 3060. Those high prices can go commit rubberdome.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 07:01:59 »
I'm holding out for a 3060. Those high prices can go commit rubberdome.


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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 08:04:46 »
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.

For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.
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Re: jeeteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 12:38:16 »
Now i have to save another 400 dollars for a top of the line graphics card, dammit.

Rumored price $1400,  not insane, but would prefer $600


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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 15:38:10 »
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.

For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.

**** that. 350w+? I thought we were moving to more efficient power-to-performance. Such a turn-off.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 17:05:12 »
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.

For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.

**** that. 350w+? I thought we were moving to more efficient power-to-performance. Such a turn-off.

it' dat 7nm, 30-40% m0ar pwer efficient. m0ar perf0rmance in the same footprint...

Not sure if the power rumor is true.  But if it is.. I would think  Big-Navi should put up some Big numbers, otherwise there'd be no reason to stretch so hard

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 20:52:44 »
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.

For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.

**** that. 350w+? I thought we were moving to more efficient power-to-performance. Such a turn-off.

it' dat 7nm, 30-40% m0ar pwer efficient. m0ar perf0rmance in the same footprint...

Not sure if the power rumor is true.  But if it is.. I would think  Big-Navi should put up some Big numbers, otherwise there'd be no reason to stretch so hard

The power draw rumor is most likely true, if rumors about TSMC/Samsung are true. I'm no engineer, but from what I've heard, the 3xxx series will be built on Samsung's 8nm node instead of TSMC's 7nm node. Samsung simply isn't as efficient at making the massive dies that TSMC has been building for years, so it doesn't surprise me at all that the power draw is much higher. Honestly the high power draw and the massive cooler really remind me of the Fermi days.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 21:06:48 »
Keep in mind, the 3090 is NOT a 2080 replacement
It's probably not even a 2080 TI replacement, it's more likely a Titan replacement. Everything about it from price to size to power draw makes more sense if that's the case.

3080 will mostly likely be 200watts give or take about 10%.
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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 00:15:52 »
3080 will mostly likely be 200watts give or take about 10%.

We know from the Gainward leaks a couple days ago that their 3080 will be 320W (with 350w for their 3090). So gives some ballpark for other board partners. Though how much in typical use it'll draw idk (same could be said for EVGA's 2080Ti and Supers which are mostly 250W).
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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 01:18:07 »
Jeez that's a heck of a jump.
These are going draw insane amounts under OC, not that don't already.
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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 04:16:06 »
i kinda hope that those will not drive the used market through the roof. like the 2080 did and covid did after.
cause here i see already RX580-8G for sale at 250 euros and it has been 2 or 3 years that the used card price stays the same or goes up for new generations... 3 years ago i bought an R9 280 tri-X at 50 euros, now i can't find them under 80... kinda why i hate nvidia/apple/samsung...
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 04:48:40 »
3080 will mostly likely be 200watts give or take about 10%.

We know from the Gainward leaks a couple days ago that their 3080 will be 320W (with 350w for their 3090). So gives some ballpark for other board partners. Though how much in typical use it'll draw idk (same could be said for EVGA's 2080Ti and Supers which are mostly 250W).

So what would be the new Titan? 48 Gigs of VRAM?  :D

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 05:05:55 »
i kinda hope that those will not drive the used market through the roof. like the 2080 did and covid did after.
cause here i see already RX580-8G for sale at 250 euros and it has been 2 or 3 years that the used card price stays the same or goes up for new generations... 3 years ago i bought an R9 280 tri-X at 50 euros, now i can't find them under 80... kinda why i hate nvidia/apple/samsung...
RX 580 4gb is around $120-130. They were about $80 this time last year.
8gb is only about $20 more.

Anyone expecting $250 is smoking crack, you can buy 8gb for sub $160 all day long.
Ebay UK is also similarly priced.

As for why it went up, Mining caused a shortage of cards, I'm not sure what happened mid last year to cause a second shortage, maybe it never recovered fully? Then Covid hit and depleted what was left of the market. I suspect people mining other crypto are still mining on gpus.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 07:08:26 »
Leaked benchmarks say  + 40% ontop of 2080Ti.




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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 07:11:59 »
Leaked benchmarks say  + 40% ontop of 2080Ti.


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How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:02:08 »
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:07:17 »
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.

+72.5%

Do different engines/resolutions/CPU and RAM speeds have so little influence that a number can be plucked out of the air like this?
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:16:38 »
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.

+72.5%

Do different engines/resolutions/CPU and RAM speeds have so little influence that a number can be plucked out of the air like this?

Well the +40% is just a leaked benchmark video / rumor status

But the 1080ti to 2080ti is fact,  so that's what we're calculating from. 

Obviously this doesn't scale with every game engine,  but then there's 400% <rumored> Ray tracing performance increase,  so in a ray traced game,  you'd see 400% increase in frame rates, if the ray count was left the same.

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:22:31 »
Sticking with my EVGA GTX 1080 SC until it can't play new games anymore, then I'll upgrade...
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:25:24 »
Sticking with my EVGA GTX 1080 SC until it can't play new games anymore, then I'll upgrade...

My TI has has always kept me happy but now that I'm moving to high res ultrawide and I'm afraid that won't last :(

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:26:51 »
I don't need anything over 1080p to game well, so my 1080 should last me at least a few more years...
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:37:49 »
I don't need anything over 1080p to game well, so my 1080 should last me at least a few more years...

For 1080p you're definetly set for a while!

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 08:38:57 »
I don't need anything over 1080p to game well, so my 1080 should last me at least a few more years...

For 1080p you're definetly set for a while!

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 18:59:26 »
yeah unfortunate that i've put myself on the tp setup because my 4k display doesn't play nice with my 1080 anymore and i've been itching to change my setup to accommodate a higher refresh rate.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 19:27:17 »
yeah unfortunate that i've put myself on the tp setup because my 4k display doesn't play nice with my 1080 anymore and i've been itching to change my setup to accommodate a higher refresh rate.

Dey got dat 1080p 360hz monitor now for Epic PR() Gam3rzing.


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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:41:28 »
OH MY GAWD...

ABOVE 2080TI  performance @ ALL PRICE LEVELS  $500, $700, 1499.


THIS IS A  GPU RENAISSANCE

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:45:10 »
Praise be

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 12:09:09 »
THIS IS INSANE,  where do i PREORDER..  BUYYYY BUY BUYy

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 12:17:16 »
What did you read?
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GMK Hyperfuse
'Split everything' perfection  
MX Clear
SA Hack'd by Geeks     
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Vortex OEM PBT
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 12:18:50 »
Christ, 

Think about the pricing,

2060 now is $300, it has to become ~ $150

2070 now is $450, it has to become ~ $200

2080 Super is now $770, it has to become ~ $300

2080 Ti, is $1400 street$,  it has to become  Less than $500

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 12:46:55 »
$1400 lmao go **** yourself
My entire rig cost $1400