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Offline Alga

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Finally did it... + History for noobs
« on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 03:46:24 »
I pulled the trigger on my first board. Taking some """advantage""" of the black friday situation (which is a global scam that I fall for to many times) I ordered my first keyboard parts from the lord above: Aliexpress
I gave away some 130 euros for a hotswap PCB with uderglow (because RGB brother), acrylic case, alu plate, 120 gateron yellow and an MX profile keycap set with spanish ISO legend. Apparently I saved the bast amount of 10€!!!  :eek:

... Saving my economy 10 ñoclos at a time ...  :thumb: good stuff peeps.

So, it being my first board I wanted a hotswap because for one I don't want to break the pcb soldering and I don't have soldering equipment. I actually paid some 30$ extra for the hot swap pcb, this one to be exact:
https://ymdkey.com/collections/75-84-96-keyboard-diy/products/ymdk-ymd75v3-qmk-hot-swap-hot-swappable-kailh-socket-84-pcb-fully-programmable-support-ansi-iso-interchange-ymd75-v2





It's a YMDK pcb with a 87% layout, which actually contains 88 keys for my chosen layout because of the short left shift.
I originally was in the hunt for a TKL layout, and was looking at the KPRepublics 87% board. The sad problem was that I don't like the looks of the cases for the 87% boards. And their Womier boards which I like do not support the ISO layout (the tall enter is a deal breaker for me). And if I'm going to drop two zeros of my hard earned cash I want something specific, and I will buy that and nothing else.

It was then I cam across YMDK and their board. It has all I wanted:
  • Tall enter
  • Dedicated arrow keys (I use them a lot while coding and I don't want a 2-key combination to reach them)
  • Delete (cause who on earth lives without delete)
  • Page Up / Down - Home / End (for navigation too)

The only thing I could complain about is that the layout looks a bit cluttered, but a small price to pay for a smaller board that won't restrict my mouse movements while gaming as much as a full layout board.

For the case I wanted acrylic or polycarb cause I'm a sucker for light shows. Half of the time I'm in my bedroom whitout any lights but the ones from the computer and the screen itself. And now with the underglow it will be LIT!
https://ymdkey.com/collections/75-84-96-keyboard-diy/products/ymdk-84-kit-cnc-acrylic-case-anodized-plate-underglow-rgb-fully-programmable-pcb-stabilizers-for-75-84-keyboard-ansi-iso-layout



In my case i won't have per-key lights because my keycaps are not see-through. I personally I'm totally fine with that and I have the choice of soldering white leds down the road which I might try.
I also got the aluminum plate cause it was cheaper than brass and I wanted some rigidity to the board.

The PCB, case & plate came together at a price of 94.35€.

For the switches I chose gateron yellows because never having had a mehc keyboard I wanted a linear feeling and by this point I was in budget constrain.
I got a bag of 120 pices because it was almost cheaper than buying a bag of a 100 or a bag of 70 + 2*10.
I'll have some spares to play with, cherry pick the best sounding/feeling ones and try my luck on lubing.
I have gone for the black bottom and clear tops because I read some people having issues with the milky ones. I was interested in buying the inks, but those where out of budget, and the opinions on the milky ones made me choose the most extended option in this case.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005001445849494.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.74b84c4dzjz0lR
In due time I plan to get some lube, and further down the road change the stems and maybe half the housing to try other options that I've read give some of the best results.

The bag of switches came at a mere 19.16€.

And finally the keycaps. Those where a hard to find with some personality. For a time I considered front legend see-through keycaps, or may puddings, to take advantage of the underglow. But was never fully convinces, and there where almost NONE with the legend I use. And I also didn't want fully black or white caps, I wanted some color scheme the give the board more of a feeling.
I finally found a set with the spanish legend and some color. Having the legend it's a bit of a must for me because I still look at the board to find the alternative characters on the 5th row.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000130061265.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.74b84c4dzjz0lR
These came at a handsome price of 24.59€.



And this is what i got for my first board. What do you think geeks?

I'll update the post when I get the suff and try it.


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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 04:09:07 »
nice one, i hope you are going to have a good time building it.
just a warning with hot swap, do not try to insert a switch with bent legs, straiten it beforehand, else you may damage the switch of maybe even rip the socket if you force too much (you would need to force rather hard to do so but some did).
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Offline Alga

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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 04:35:25 »
nice one, i hope you are going to have a good time building it.
just a warning with hot swap, do not try to insert a switch with bent legs, straiten it beforehand, else you may damage the switch of maybe even rip the socket if you force too much (you would need to force rather hard to do so but some did).

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 08:09:34 »
Looks good for a first board :)
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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 19 November 2020, 19:55:49 »
Why did you go for acrylic case? Currently planning my first board.

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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 19 November 2020, 20:00:23 »
Acrylic is more environmentally friendly, and it's as kewl if not more kewl than aluminum.

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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 20 November 2020, 00:59:40 »
Acrylic is more environmentally friendly, and it's as kewl if not more kewl than aluminum.
aluminium = 100%recyclable
acrylic = made out of petrol and is non recyclable and maybe biodegradable in some very specific conditions

what are you talking about right now

although for peoples who like pretty lights yeah acrylic is best, and easier to work with in a home shop.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 20 November 2020, 03:26:04 »
Why did you go for acrylic case? Currently planning my first board.

For several reasons. As delicate as it sounds I'm on that does not enjoy the touch of metal to skin (despite this I intend to do a metal build one day). A cheap acrylic case will usually be better quality than a cheap metal case (take the bent steel case for the XD87 of KPRepublic, I expect this case to have better acoustics), and I a big fat sucker for underglow. Ideally I want a milled polycarb case, but again those are more expensive.

Looks good for a first board :)

Thanks :)  I believe the first thing to arrive will be the switches, so I'll have time to luuuuuub.

Acrylic is more environmentally friendly, and it's as kewl if not more kewl than aluminum.
aluminium = 100%recyclable
acrylic = made out of petrol and is non recyclable and maybe biodegradable in some very specific conditions

what are you talking about right now

although for peoples who like pretty lights yeah acrylic is best, and easier to work with in a home shop.

Yeah, I don't think that acrylic is more environmentally friendly than aluminium either. But I believe that this things should be measured by their carbon footprint (how much energy it takes to produce one vs the other and to recycle them). For example, I beileve that despite metal beeing 100% reusable, consumer products (like cocke cans for example) they need to mix new material with recycled one cause the latter has been treated and somewhat weakend.
That's what I get from watching Discovery xD (not claiming an absolute truth here)

In any way I like pretty lights.

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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 20 November 2020, 03:54:37 »
Yeah, I don't think that acrylic is more environmentally friendly than aluminium either. But I believe that this things should be measured by their carbon footprint (how much energy it takes to produce one vs the other and to recycle them). For example, I beileve that despite metal beeing 100% reusable, consumer products (like cocke cans for example) they need to mix new material with recycled one cause the latter has been treated and somewhat weakend.
That's what I get from watching Discovery xD (not claiming an absolute truth here)
i know that it is absolutely true for plastics, as when you cut it and heat it to melt it you degrade some of the polymers making them shorter and so the plastic weaker, but metals do not form polymers but crystalline structures that can be controlled by temperature, the only issue is with aluminum foil and cans that need to be pure aluminum (for stretchiness reasons) so can't be made out of recycled aluminum, your keyboard case can and most likely will be made out of reused aluminum as it is much cheaper. (and you do not need to bend it a lot, so impurities will not cause issues)
sorry for the information dump, but as you said you watch discovery i though you may like to know
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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 20 November 2020, 05:46:36 »
Nice keyboard you go there

Offline Alga

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Re: Finally did it... + History for noobs
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 20 November 2020, 12:48:05 »
Yeah, I don't think that acrylic is more environmentally friendly than aluminium either. But I believe that this things should be measured by their carbon footprint (how much energy it takes to produce one vs the other and to recycle them). For example, I beileve that despite metal beeing 100% reusable, consumer products (like cocke cans for example) they need to mix new material with recycled one cause the latter has been treated and somewhat weakend.
That's what I get from watching Discovery xD (not claiming an absolute truth here)
i know that it is absolutely true for plastics, as when you cut it and heat it to melt it you degrade some of the polymers making them shorter and so the plastic weaker, but metals do not form polymers but crystalline structures that can be controlled by temperature, the only issue is with aluminum foil and cans that need to be pure aluminum (for stretchiness reasons) so can't be made out of recycled aluminum, your keyboard case can and most likely will be made out of reused aluminum as it is much cheaper. (and you do not need to bend it a lot, so impurities will not cause issues)
sorry for the information dump, but as you said you watch discovery i though you may like to know

I appreciate. I actually do find it interesting.  I like those kind of random facts.