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[noisyturtle]

What are people's thoughts on Nintendo's next console announcement? Coming as early as next year™

Really, all it needs to be is what the Switch already is, but with a faster CPU and more powerful GPU. Maybe upgrade the screen a little? Better refresh, and native 1920 or even 2048 resolution in portable mode?
I feel like they really nailed it with the OLED ver of the Switch, but the fact it is running on basically WiiU hardware and cannot even run it's own games (or can it?? why TF does Zelda run great, but Pokemon runs like garbage?)

All I hope it that it keeps the same cartridge format, and can play original Switch games. There's literally zero reason to change up the media format since it does not use discs, and wouldn't being portable. Don't see any reason for two screens either.

[Rhienfo]

Yeah that's all it needs to be in order for it to sell, and they have definitely learnt from the wii u to market it well. I do think it needs to be a far more powerful difference, especially with stuff like the steam deck coming to market to the point where I feel Nintendo will under-deliver on that aspects. It will probably give developers more to work with though, which is a good thing when trying to optimize games for the platform. But of course that can only go so far.

Also pokemon gets far less time and manpower to develop than zelda, because of the yearly release schedule, so they basically get 3 or so years and even with time crunch is not enough time to develop and polish an open world in general pokemon games have to be rushed due to the yearly schedule.

[Darthbaggins]

What are people's thoughts on Nintendo's next console announcement? Coming as early as next year™

Really, all it needs to be is what the Switch already is, but with a faster CPU and more powerful GPU. Maybe upgrade the screen a little? Better refresh, and native 1920 or even 2048 resolution in portable mode?
I feel like they really nailed it with the OLED ver of the Switch, but the fact it is running on basically WiiU hardware and cannot even run it's own games (or can it?? why TF does Zelda run great, but Pokemon runs like garbage?)

All I hope it that it keeps the same cartridge format, and can play original Switch games. There's literally zero reason to change up the media format since it does not use discs, and wouldn't being portable. Don't see any reason for two screens either.

I knew when I finally bought a Switch (got the OLED over last Christmas holidays), Nintendo would finally release or announce a new model.  I do hope they go with an AMD SOC even though the Nvidia Tegra has served them well for over a decade now.  If Nintendo allowed a bump in clocks and memory speeds, the current gens would have fewer issues running the newer titles - has been noted by people Overclocking the PCU and memory has shown the best benefit for consistent frames (think it was Digital Foundry).

[PlayBox]

honestly i'd prefer it to be something new and innovative like their past consoles not just doing a new switch

no nintendo console will ever beat the wii/wiiu the motion control is just too much fun even in 2023

[noisyturtle]

honestly i'd prefer it to be something new and innovative like their past consoles not just doing a new switch

no nintendo console will ever beat the wii/wiiu the motion control is just too much fun even in 2023

There is always a chance of that knowing Nintendo's hardware history, but I think they can plainly see the success of the Switch and ease of transition keeping things much the same. A lot of people would be very upset if their Switch games suddenly were not playable on the Switch's replacement hardware.
Perhaps we'll see the return of the hardware add-on to add some gimmicky functionality that will eventually get it's own standalone built-in release later down the road.

Personally, I'd love to see a 3DS player, but there is zero reason for them to even consider doing that.

[Rhienfo]

There is always a chance of that knowing Nintendo's hardware history, but I think they can plainly see the success of the Switch and ease of transition keeping things much the same. A lot of people would be very upset if their Switch games suddenly were not playable on the Switch's replacement hardware.
Perhaps we'll see the return of the hardware add-on to add some gimmicky functionality that will eventually get it's own standalone built-in release later down the road.

Personally, I'd love to see a 3DS player, but there is zero reason for them to even consider doing that.

I think Nintendo will never do another addon hardware thing again, after both cd disk drives for the snes/n64 failed/got cancelled and were never that good in the first place.

[Rhienfo]

oh also to add, Nintendo is kinda of in a weird spot where they have capitalized on the portable/console hybrid of the switch but they can't do that another time or else it will be another wii u. So they need to slowly diversify until they have a clear distinct split between the home hardware (which should be as powerful as a ps4 minimum, ps5 if they want to compete heavily with the home markets) and the portable hardware (like a switch but more powerful, maybe reintroduce a clamshell design for a "switch 2" or whatever). I feel to reach that point backwards compatibility is a good step, especially since pretty much every game doesn't require portable mode.

[noisyturtle]

It would not be difficult for N to catch up with today's technology. All they need to do is make the same console, but 3x more powerful. The Switch is running on ancient hardware architecture from 2012, most cell phones outperform it these days. It's freaking embarrassing if not for how well it did commercially.

[Rhienfo]

It would not be difficult for N to catch up with today's technology. All they need to do is make the same console, but 3x more powerful. The Switch is running on ancient hardware architecture from 2012, most cell phones outperform it these days. It's freaking embarrassing if not for how well it did commercially.

Yeah I agree but considering Nintendo's history I feel they will still be behind. Like the n64 with cartridges something that screwed over the n64 as all 3rd party developers jumped shipped with the more storage of the playstation, the gamecube with the smaller discs which was the same issue. The wii completely jumped the shark with under-powered hardware for that era which completely alienated an entire dedicated market of your products. The wii u was an embarrassment in every way and I feel that unless they learn they need to be ahead hardware wise they will keep making these mistakes.

[TomahawkLabs]

I am hoping that with devices like the SteamDeck and the ASUS model Nintendo will be forced into making hardware that can do a bit more. Every console generation (outside n64 and prior) Nintendo overlooked hardware horsepower in favor of games and gameplay.

Now that we have switchlike devices that play PC games with "better" experiences that act as a desktop when docked, I hope Nintendo sees that as competition. Best case is a Switch 2 with the same controllers but a better screen/chassis but with beefed up hardware. Playing more open world games like BOTW and TOTK really show how sluggish the switch can be, doubly so when playing handheld.

[Darthbaggins]

There is always a chance of that knowing Nintendo's hardware history, but I think they can plainly see the success of the Switch and ease of transition keeping things much the same. A lot of people would be very upset if their Switch games suddenly were not playable on the Switch's replacement hardware.
Perhaps we'll see the return of the hardware add-on to add some gimmicky functionality that will eventually get it's own standalone built-in release later down the road.

Personally, I'd love to see a 3DS player, but there is zero reason for them to even consider doing that.

I think Nintendo will never do another addon hardware thing again, after both cd disk drives for the snes/n64 failed/got cancelled and were never that good in the first place.

At least the one for the Ultra/N64 is what gave us the Playstation - but they know carts is the best route, only downside is the internal battery issues older carts have/had.

[pitouthestar]

Some interesting information here:

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[noisyturtle]

Everyone complaining about Joycons being the worst controllers of all-time since the debut of the Switch, and Nintendo changing nothing and keeping that exact same design is just wild to me.
I guess they figure everyone will buy it anyway, and it's a guaranteed Pro Controller sale on top.

[TomahawkLabs]

Everyone complaining about Joycons being the worst controllers of all-time since the debut of the Switch, and Nintendo changing nothing and keeping that exact same design is just wild to me.
I guess they figure everyone will buy it anyway, and it's a guaranteed Pro Controller sale on top.

On a more positive perspective, people with additional controllers can continue to use them instead of them being a $70 paperweight. It's sad to see Nintendo still being run as a hyper efficient cash machine, vs building something with quality. It wouldn't be difficult to use hall effect joysticks. It could be touted as a Switch "upgraded" controller. Maintain backwards compatibility, while providing a solution to the problem.

[noisyturtle]

Well here we go

my takeaway: It's a little bigger

[Lendasya]

I mean, I love my OLED Switch, but it’s crazy how inconsistent game performance is. Like, why is it so hard for Pokemon to run smoothly?

[noisyturtle]

Interesting thing to note is Nintendo is notoriously stingy with their 1st-to-3rd party hardware licenses, which is why 3rd party controllers always differ in shape, are wired, or are missing functionality like an Amiibo scanner. But now it looks like Nintendo has changed its tune with the Switch 2 coming up, and I'm already seeing Switch 1 3rd party JoyCons and other stuff show up.
I have a feeling the Switch2 is going to be a huge license slut of a console like the original Wii was, just rife with 3rd party bloat. The good thing about that is maybe Nintendo will be a little more lax on their lawyering in lieu of making even more money than they already are.

[noisyturtle]

Well after waiting well over a decade, the new Metroid Prime looks extremely vanilla, stuff we've all seen 1000x in other uninspired fps games with graphics that could be from 2012. Even the creature designs are boring to me.
We waited for this??

[tp4tissue]

We're one of the first generations that NEVER had to grow up.

So, logically,  if you're waiting for the NEW VERSION of vvvv  This...   it's not really made for us..  so the negative commentary is often misplaced.

[phinix]

I dont have any console but was thinking of getting Switch for a while.
I like that Metroid game was released few years ago. Maybe would play Zelda too. And some old school Mario games!
Is the new one worth getting, or just first version? I know **** about them.

[noisyturtle]

Are we owning the libs yet?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78j64dqj2qo.amp

[noisyturtle]

Nintendo will be charging $10 for the demo tutorial for the Switch 2
https://www.ign.com/articles/switch-2-tutorial-game-welcome-tour-costs-10-nintendo-explains-why-its-not-a-free-console-pack-in

That's really gross, Nintendo. You've completely lost sight of who you used to be. But I don't blame you, it's the fans that keep bending over for each new lubing like it is their sworn duty to get ****ed repeatedly.

[tp4tissue]

So take Rome, what happened.

They got the Switch 2 vomit then eat more food then vomit update patch.   The people who kept society running got old, died, their kids play switch 2, pants fall off, and they died.

That's where we are.   OUR complaints are within a broken framework,  that we were PROGRAMED by advertising to CARE ABOUT.

Your desires are not yours, your outrage, your perception, they are all entirely manufactured.

[noisyturtle]

So it has been unleashed. Did anyone get lucky enough to grab one? How does Cyberpunk run on the Switch 2?

[HoffmanMyster]

Preordered one, had a chance to play a bit earlier today. So far so good. The new Mario Kart is nice, it’s just fresh enough to be new but obviously is still MK at its core. Lots of little additions to make the races that little bit “more”.

And the update to BotW is nice too, started a fresh file for it. Excited to experience it in full 4K with all the fidelity upgrades.

Oh and the console itself is nice!! The magnetic joycons are soooo much better and everything feels premium and great in the hand. Have not tried mouse mode with anything, that’s probably the one thing I’m super curious about at this point still.

[tp4tissue]

Preordered one, had a chance to play a bit earlier today. So far so good. The new Mario Kart is nice, it’s just fresh enough to be new but obviously is still MK at its core. Lots of little additions to make the races that little bit “more”.

And the update to BotW is nice too, started a fresh file for it. Excited to experience it in full 4K with all the fidelity upgrades.

Oh and the console itself is nice!! The magnetic joycons are soooo much better and everything feels premium and great in the hand. Have not tried mouse mode with anything, that’s probably the one thing I’m super curious about at this point still.

Hoff, should Tp4 wait for the Oled version, or just get it now?

[HoffmanMyster]

Preordered one, had a chance to play a bit earlier today. So far so good. The new Mario Kart is nice, it’s just fresh enough to be new but obviously is still MK at its core. Lots of little additions to make the races that little bit “more”.

And the update to BotW is nice too, started a fresh file for it. Excited to experience it in full 4K with all the fidelity upgrades.

Oh and the console itself is nice!! The magnetic joycons are soooo much better and everything feels premium and great in the hand. Have not tried mouse mode with anything, that’s probably the one thing I’m super curious about at this point still.

Hoff, should Tp4 wait for the Oled version, or just get it now?

Really depends on how interested you are in the current and short-term offerings, what your other gaming options are, etc. Like if you're not the biggest Mario Kart fan and don't see a need to replay (or play for the first time) BotW, TotK, or other upgraded games, then you might be better holding off until something really pulls you in. Or if you've got a huge backlog and don't see yourself getting as much out of it for now.

As much as I am loving it, I really wouldn't question anyone who looked at the launch lineup and said "nah, I'm good for now". It'll probably be a few years until the OLED model, but still, wait until something screams "must play" if you're not already feeling like you want to get one.

Oh, and just a general comment, the LCD panel that they used is really nice. It's not an OLED, so of course that will still be better. But it's not as night and day as the Switch 1 was.

[tp4tissue]

Really depends on how interested you are in the current and short-term offerings, what your other gaming options are, etc. Like if you're not the biggest Mario Kart fan and don't see a need to replay (or play for the first time) BotW, TotK, or other upgraded games, then you might be better holding off until something really pulls you in. Or if you've got a huge backlog and don't see yourself getting as much out of it for now.

As much as I am loving it, I really wouldn't question anyone who looked at the launch lineup and said "nah, I'm good for now". It'll probably be a few years until the OLED model, but still, wait until something screams "must play" if you're not already feeling like you want to get one.

Oh, and just a general comment, the LCD panel that they used is really nice. It's not an OLED, so of course that will still be better. But it's not as night and day as the Switch 1 was.

Thx Hoff, Saved Tp4 some ramen money. 

Nintendo's site says the S2's LCD is wide-gamut, the original switch lcd were definitely not. So it should be way more colorful, beyond merely being more bright.



When will picture upload be fixed? or are we capped?

[HoffmanMyster]

When will picture upload be fixed? or are we capped?

Diiiiid not realize it was borked, looks like that might be the cause of the 403s going around. I'll see if the team can figure that out.

[moyu.studio]

Who can tell me what's wrong with the forum? I have tried to post many times, but every time it is a 403 error. I have never encountered it before

[moyu.studio]

Preordered one, had a chance to play a bit earlier today. So far so good. The new Mario Kart is nice, it’s just fresh enough to be new but obviously is still MK at its core. Lots of little additions to make the races that little bit “more”.

And the update to BotW is nice too, started a fresh file for it. Excited to experience it in full 4K with all the fidelity upgrades.

Oh and the console itself is nice!! The magnetic joycons are soooo much better and everything feels premium and great in the hand. Have not tried mouse mode with anything, that’s probably the one thing I’m super curious about at this point still.

Hi Hoffman
Just wanted to ask, I tried to post an IC post but kept encountering 403 Forbidden. Can you tell me the reason? Is it due to my account?

[HoffmanMyster]

Preordered one, had a chance to play a bit earlier today. So far so good. The new Mario Kart is nice, it’s just fresh enough to be new but obviously is still MK at its core. Lots of little additions to make the races that little bit “more”.

And the update to BotW is nice too, started a fresh file for it. Excited to experience it in full 4K with all the fidelity upgrades.

Oh and the console itself is nice!! The magnetic joycons are soooo much better and everything feels premium and great in the hand. Have not tried mouse mode with anything, that’s probably the one thing I’m super curious about at this point still.

Hi Hoffman
Just wanted to ask, I tried to post an IC post but kept encountering 403 Forbidden. Can you tell me the reason? Is it due to my account?

Not your account, there is something going on that's affecting post creation/editing and causing these issues. I am unable to edit certain posts as well, for example. The dev team is looking into it and working on a solution. Sorry for the hassle!

[fohat.digs]

The dev team is looking into it and working on a solution.

Thanks, glad to know that it may just be a temporary glitch.