Windows 11.

[tp4tissue]

Ya'll using it?

When do you think they's gon' force it on people like dx12 in win 10.

[noisyturtle]

Although my comp is more than capable of running Win 11, my processor is on the banned list

And yet my system still keeps running Win11 compatibility checks when I am in the middle of doing something, as if checking it for the 400th time and tying up resources, anything at all has changed in my system. Then it attempts to run Update and fails because I don't meet the system requirements it has already checked for every day for the last year. It is like a hell loop of retardation my computer is stuck in. No way to disable it or turn it off, as long as I am connected to the internet the settings will inevitably turn it back on.

Honestly it is kind of a sly way to income shame people who cannot afford new hardware. Actively making your Windows experience more frustrating, while reminding you that you lack the means to meet their completely arbitrary hardware requirements. I wonder if I can sue MS over the mental anguish the Win 11 rollout is causing me.

[fohat.digs]

Almost 5 years ago I decided to deny M$ my essence and moved to Linux Mint.

No regrets.

[tp4tissue]

Almost 5 years ago I decided to deny M$ my essence and moved to Linux Mint.

No regrets.

Yea, but then how is the Fohat going to play dat Dragon Age.

[Leslieann]

They've already forced it on people with fake updates and messaging and at this point most casuals already have it if they have a compatible system so at this point, I wouldn't expect another shady mass attempt to force it, but I've been wrong before.

The thing that will end up forcing you is 3rd party companies.
They hate having to multiple operating systems, even when it's the same software/driver, it costs more to test and support. All it really would require is Google to drop Chrome support and you'd see a lines out the door at Best Buy they next morning.


Oddly enough, my new system offered it when I first put Windows on it despite TPM 2.0 and secure boot both disabled. However, after a reload and enabling TPM 2.0, it doesn't seem to try forcing itself despite even trying to force it. When I don't want it they try and force it and when I do they don't. Go figure.

[tp4tissue]

OMG, the start menu button doesn't activate if you corner the mouse, it's slightly before the corner.

THIS IS SO DUMB.  Jesus christ, they've lost their god damn mind.

[Leslieann]

Forgot I redid my bios and disabled tpm 2.0 when i updated my EFI, it's not in the advanced options, only the basic options. WHY?

Once re-enabled Win11 was offered, however, I just can't bring myself to do it yet.
While Win10 played nice with how I dual boot, I couldn't get Win11 to do it and I'm worried it will wipe out my partition layout. It's installed similar to how it works on an EMMC drive rather than hard disk/ssd. This keeps it from messing with my partitions and boot system.

[Belfong]

My 7th gen intel processor is not able to run Win 11 

[tp4tissue]

My 7th gen intel processor is not able to run Win 11 

It can with workarounds, Tp4 had win11 on his 4790k. You can tell it's not as snappy in games because all the updated hackr' intel-attack mitigations really cripple the earlier cpus.

[tp4tissue]

Forgot I redid my bios and disabled tpm 2.0 when i updated my EFI, it's not in the advanced options, only the basic options. WHY?

Once re-enabled Win11 was offered, however, I just can't bring myself to do it yet.
While Win10 played nice with how I dual boot, I couldn't get Win11 to do it and I'm worried it will wipe out my partition layout. It's installed similar to how it works on an EMMC drive rather than hard disk/ssd. This keeps it from messing with my partitions and boot system.

How does this tpm thing even work, they don't give you the little breakout board. Who actually spends extra money on this.

[noisyturtle]

Last night I completely removed TrustedInstaller from my security groups replacing it with Administrators, and my computer has not run this smooth in probably 7 years.

It is eye opening to see how much spyware MS gets away with running behind your back under the guise of "security"

[Belfong]

I read that we can pay MS $30 to extend the lifespan of Windows 10 for one more year i.e. will get security updates. Maybe, this is a good middle ground.

[Leslieann]

How does this tpm thing even work, they don't give you the little breakout board. Who actually spends extra money on this.

Simple answer, it's a hardware encryption chip/key storage.
Windows Hello and Bitlocker use it.

I read that we can pay MS $30 to extend the lifespan of Windows 10 for one more year i.e. will get security updates. Maybe, this is a good middle ground.

Major issues will get ignored and they get to decide which is major.
Given their history, I consider this as just wasted money. Install an alternative A/V, cross your fingers and just accept what comes, you will be just as safe as spending that $30.

[Darthbaggins]

My 7th gen intel processor is not able to run Win 11 

It runs w11 fine - ran win 11 on unsupported since it was available on a test machine that I let my son and his friends use.  Also run supported with a local account, bitlocker perma-disabled, and run the Recall disable script every time there is any update for w11 - my 10th and 11th gen Intel machines run fine w/ zero issues (my x99 setup's mobo decided to take itself out last year). 

[tp4tissue]

Can't wait until steam OS frees us from microsoft.

[Findecanor]

Using Windows 11 is humiliating. With its incessant notifications, forced updates, requirements to log in again and again for everything, Microsoft is constantly telling you "WE PWN YOU!!".

[tp4tissue]

What are you login into? Tp4 uses the offline account.

[Darthbaggins]

there is a script to run so it will bypass the check for network so you can create a local account on setup.

[noisyturtle]

Is it true Win 11 has built-in advertisements?

[tp4tissue]

Yes, so does windows 10 though.

[Findecanor]

What are you login into? Tp4 uses the offline account.

Like many people, I have to use it at work...

[tp4tissue]

What are you login into? Tp4 uses the offline account.

Like many people, I have to use it at work...

Oh, well in that regard, if you're worried about the computer OS owning you. We need to talk about how Capitalism has 100% dehumanized who/what you are into a fungible-token that we know today as -Money.

Let's stare at a computer screen all day, spend 99% of your BEST HOURS working for an impersonal/careless killing machine that is a Corporation. Hours that you can not buy back with any-amount-of-Money.

Remember the machine does not care, Corporations are granted person-hood and carry fiduciary responsibility to maximize share holder profits, means really, that it's an Obligate Sociopath. It is NOT ALLOWED to empathize / care. It is a Monster which turns blood into plastic waste as it poisons the air and kills the planet.

[noisyturtle]

My system keeps taking unneeded updates to prep for Win 11, but my system keeps also telling me I don't meet the hardware requirements for Win 11.

SO THEN STOP TAKING THESE UPDATES AND TELLING ME ABOUT IT!

[tp4tissue]

There's no clock with the dial ?

Where clock with the dial ?  Why no clock with the dial ?

[tp4tissue]

Now that they're basically forcing it.

Ya'll switching?

[fohat.digs]

I turned my back on M$ Window$ 5 years ago and never looked back. The only complaint I have with Linux Mint (and it is not a trivial one) is hardware support eg peripherals and especially scanners.

[tp4tissue]

How Fohat play dat Am0r C0re VI without Windoz?

[fohat.digs]

How Fohat play

Easy - I don't.

[flagz_]

I turned my back on M$ Window$ 5 years ago and never looked back. The only complaint I have with Linux Mint (and it is not a trivial one) is hardware support eg peripherals and especially scanners.

I have recently switched from W10/11 to Linux Mint and I don't really see much of a difference in performance since I have a low-spec laptop. I still feel that Linux in general still have some kinks that it needs to iron out like software support (I use Figma for design but they don't have an official Linux port).

But knowing that MS can't gather anymore data from me anymore makes me happy:) Not to mention in the age of techno-feudalism, I think that we should support more open source projects like Linux.

[Leslieann]

Now that they're basically forcing it.

Ya'll switching?

I switched to Linux years ago.

At times I do use a Windows dual boot for games and troubleshooting friends/customer systems but only on desktop and after messing around with Win11, however, I am soooo ready to once again dump it all into a VM and ditch it entirely again or at least roll it back to Win10. I don't understand how Windows started with 10 added a skin and lost so much performance.

[tp4tissue]

I switched to Linux years ago.

At times I do use a Windows dual boot for games and troubleshooting friends/customer systems but only on desktop and after messing around with Win11, however, I am soooo ready to once again dump it all into a VM and ditch it entirely again or at least roll it back to Win10. I don't understand how Windows started with 10 added a skin and lost so much performance.

What performance loss, from hardware? or bad UI?

[Leslieann]

I switched to Linux years ago.

At times I do use a Windows dual boot for games and troubleshooting friends/customer systems but only on desktop and after messing around with Win11, however, I am soooo ready to once again dump it all into a VM and ditch it entirely again or at least roll it back to Win10. I don't understand how Windows started with 10 added a skin and lost so much performance.

What performance loss, from hardware? or bad UI?

Notably, games running worse, stutters, micro stutters, etc.

[fohat.digs]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/04/03/microsoft-warns-240-million-windows-users-stop-using-your-pc/

[JackQn]

I hate upgrading the Windows OS. I keep using Win 10 now, but sadly there will be no official support from Microsoft on Win 10 later on.

[noisyturtle]

Is MS going to buy me a new computer? IDK how else it's gonna happen in the next year.
This is literally the worst time for them to be pulling this bull****.
I wonder if they will backpedal due to the economy and no one being able to afford new hardware?