Author Topic: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread. (Read 73168 times)

tp4tissue · « **Reply #400 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 10:59:57 »

USPS package delayed. ff Drumpp..

Sniping · « **Reply #401 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 11:13:53 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 March 2025, 08:34:14

Deshroud mod the 4080.

it's an FE so I wouldn't do that to this card. deshrouding a 9070xt could be a good option, but I'm not sure if I want to get rid of my 4080, and more importantly not sure if I want to spend the time hunting for a cheap 9070xt. to be honest, I've looked into deshrouding before and it seems like some tests I saw showed mix results with some deshroud attempts actually making temps worse depending on the setup. seems like main benefit is for a noise reduction. I'll see. I kind of realized I don't mind fan noise while I'm gaming; I have headphones on anyways. most setups are pretty silent under light loads.

Sniping · « **Reply #402 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 11:28:08 »

so achilles heel of the PC I bought is that it has an asus prime b650m-a. weak VRM design and just a cheapish board, and also is the only non white component, so I'm in the market for a better one. I'm thinking either b850m aorus elite ice ($200) or x870i aorus pro ice ($300). avoiding asrock for now because of the issues they've been having. seems like the b850m is the better value, there's definitely some ITX tax baked into the x870i. goal is to keep the white theme consistent and these are like two of the few white SFF AM5 motherboards. I'd like to eventually move the parts into an ncase m2, or formd t1. mATX board will lock me out of the formd t1, but it's a better value and the white T1 case is $300 which is a bit too much for a case if you ask me. yet, the T1 has a great design and space efficiency, and the builds end up looking great. ncase m2 is also awesome but I feel like the builds don't look as nice in most configs.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #403 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 11:51:33 »

You do not need to upgrade that board. The low vrm boards only overheats in benchmarks/load testing. If you're just using it for normal gaming loads. It will never throttle, even with overclock. No need to waste money.

Sniping · « **Reply #404 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 11:53:57 »

good reality check. I'll stick with it for a bit then.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #405 on:** Tue, 18 March 2025, 11:55:57 »

Especially on the 7800x3d. Because of the fabric lock, it will never exceed 80-90watts even in benchmarks.

The only time that board will throttle is if you push near 200watt sustained, which people just don't do.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #406 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 09:55:47 »

Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x, Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x

phinix · « **Reply #407 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:16:26 »

Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x

tp4tissue · « **Reply #408 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:18:42 »

Quote from: phinix on Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:16:26

Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x

$340 though.. it's soooo cheeeep. 41000 Cinebench r23

9series 8 core only gets 24000

9series 16core is at 45000 ish

It's crazy how far cpus have come, Tp4 has 2 DL580 g5 penryn, 4x xeon x7460 per machine, They only bench 10,000 per machine r23, 24c/24t

tp4tissue · « **Reply #409 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:43:16 »

Wonder if a delidded 9950x can do 50,000+ without nitrogen.

340 watts is alot, probably too much for the io die.

phinix · « **Reply #410 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:55:41 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:18:42

Quote from: phinix on Wed, 19 March 2025, 10:16:26
Tp4 doesn't need a 7950x

$340 though.. it's soooo cheeeep. 41000 Cinebench r23

9series 8 core only gets 24000

9series 16core is at 45000 ish

It's crazy how far cpus have come, Tp4 has 2 DL580 g5 penryn, 4x xeon x7460 per machine, They only bench 10,000 per machine r23, 24c/24t

What do you need it for?

...

tp4tissue · « **Reply #411 on:** Wed, 19 March 2025, 19:55:56 »

What is the current trend on Pump speeds? Do we still just crank it? Testing max vs min, very little difference.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #412 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 08:09:58 »

Interesting. Looking at a few gpu backplate arrangements, on the back, They put the thermal pads on the memory, but not the vrm. This must be deliberate to give the ram a bit more cooling, but exclude the VRM from potentially heating it up since that is quite a large heat mass.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #413 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 08:21:54 »

Used gaming pc, 5800x, 3060ti, hp omen 30L, 1TB, 16gb ram for $600.

Seeeems pretty reasonable, thoughts? People should buy these instead of newer Prebuilts.

They want $900 to $1300 for anything with a 3060ti, prebuilt, new.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #414 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 08:43:06 »

4060 shouldn't exist. It's so bad.

Sniping · « **Reply #415 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 12:16:38 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 March 2025, 08:21:54

Used gaming pc, 5800x, 3060ti, hp omen 30L, 1TB, 16gb ram for $600.

Seeeems pretty reasonable, thoughts? People should buy these instead of newer Prebuilts.

They want $900 to $1300 for anything with a 3060ti, prebuilt, new.

that doesn't seem bad but I feel like it's not exactly the system you'd want if you had to pick youself? I would be more picky about what you spend your money on

tp4tissue · « **Reply #416 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 13:00:15 »

Merely, social commentary.

Tp4 is team Red.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #417 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 16:30:00 »

Tp4 can understand scalping 4090/ 5090s.

Why would they go through the trouble scalping 9070xt just to make $200-300.

TomahawkLabs · « **Reply #418 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 17:53:33 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 March 2025, 16:30:00

...just to make $200-300.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #419 on:** Thu, 20 March 2025, 23:22:38 »

Exactly, it's alot of trouble + Risk, for $200-300.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #420 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 01:23:24 »

AMD allows 175 watts on an 8core 9-series

Why do they limit to 245 watts 16core ?

We should get 345 watts limit.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #421 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 10:15:17 »

AW2725DF for $600, qd-oled 360hz, extremely tempted, buh.. 27 inch. hrrm..

tp4tissue · « **Reply #422 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 11:39:15 »

Something thought about for a bit, Perhaps the ssd should be heatshielded against the mobo side because its' mostly hot air + the cpu/vrm dumping heat into the copper.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #423 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:05:50 »

So, apparently "Build Streams" are a thing now, if you configure a prebuilt PC from a vendor, you can watch it being built on a stream.

Watched a few of these videos, honestly, If I was gonna shell out extra for a custom, I'd expect better looking people to build my pcs.

Just kidding, but did they even try to put together their best looking crew for videos? /huehuehue

fohat.digs · « **Reply #424 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:24:55 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:05:50

I'd expect better looking people

Seriously? You sound just like Drumpf.

Why don't you post a video of yourself working on a computer?

tp4tissue · « **Reply #425 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:45:47 »

Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:24:55

Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 21 March 2025, 21:05:50

I'd expect better looking people

Seriously? You sound just like Drumpf.

Why don't you post a video of yourself working on a computer?

Tp4 is 2x2 ugly that's why. /don't look at me.

You know who's just like Drumpf though? Biden. They're identical, with the exception that Biden wanted WW3.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #426 on:** Fri, 21 March 2025, 23:00:33 »

These premium Motherboards.

Real headscratcher, other than slightly bigger heatsinks, what the hell are people paying for?

Even the most "useful" feature, extra lanes for storage, usually has to steal bandwidth..

That's before we ask, who's even storage bottlenecked at gen4x4, when you can easily scrub 4K footage on Sata.

And the VRMs, none of the new chips really Overclock, so, we're already way over specced in mid tier boards.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #427 on:** Sat, 22 March 2025, 00:38:28 »

The m0ar Tp4 watches PC videos about PCs, the more he's come to realize how disconnected he is with the average PC G4m3r.

phinix · « **Reply #428 on:** Sat, 22 March 2025, 10:00:02 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 22 March 2025, 00:38:28

The m0ar Tp4 watches PC videos about PCs, the more he's come to realize how disconnected he is with the average PC G4m3r.

tp doesn't need to be same as all those wankers on youtube spending all his money on high end parts.
tp is unique and should pursue his own level of involvment.

Leslieann · « **Reply #429 on:** Sat, 22 March 2025, 16:02:10 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 22 March 2025, 00:38:28

The m0ar Tp4 watches PC videos about PCs, the more he's come to realize how disconnected he is with the average PC G4m3r.

Check Steam stats and you will see you are FAR more disconnected than you think.
In the opposite way.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #430 on:** Sat, 22 March 2025, 22:33:37 »

Tp4's take on dat edgerunner cybrsp1ne theme.

Had some doubts initially about the ID sizing, but it looks pretty decent after making spacers reverse wrapped around a calibrated pen tube..

They sell 2 kind of separators, smooth matte gloss, and sparkly glitter, the AN4 and below are glitter, too eye catching, so the AN6 are the only right ones to use here, they also make chrome, but they're not sold without special order, and you have to order 30+. AN6 is 13.8mm which is larger than most 12mm AIO tubes, that's why you need to make spacers.

It's tricky to pose the cable because you need it to twist just right to look flowing while floating above the GPU.

Then there's the separator spacing and quantity. In this case, thematically, 6x is the upper limit, it already looks crowded.

4x frames better in overall visual weight, but then breaks the theme, as it doesn't look like a spine. Spacing is using an even growth rate to look natural, perfect division looks terrible.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #431 on:** Sun, 23 March 2025, 13:51:31 »

9070xt still very hard to find. hrrm..

tp4tissue · « **Reply #432 on:** Mon, 24 March 2025, 10:14:17 »

Tp4 has figured out why virtually all other 7900xtx runs hotter than the sapphire model cooler.

Sapphire does not cool the vrm with the main heatsink. Their vrm is only attached to the aluminum mid-plate. The heatsink only touches the ram and core.

Sniping · « **Reply #433 on:** Mon, 24 March 2025, 12:15:56 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 23 March 2025, 13:51:31

9070xt still very hard to find. hrrm..

I think launch day was probably the best chance to get one sadly. the restock efforts have been fairly weak so far.

I ended up also picking up a 4070 ti super in white, to go along with the computer I bought. as much as I was liking the 4080 super FE, it's simply not a great value even at MSRP so I'll likely be letting go of it. I can still play my games at 4k with the 4070TiS on medium or high and it's a 16GB card, so should be good enough. Interesting thing I ran into is a bunch of driver related crashes when I used the latest nvidia driver while testing the setup last night. Had to use an old version from December and it seemed to fix things. Out of laziness, I still have my old AMD drivers and did not use DDU when rolling back to an earlier nvidia driver. oh well

tp4tissue · « **Reply #434 on:** Mon, 24 March 2025, 13:16:10 »

It started to glitch out my older 1060 pc. I go to adjust desktop color settings in the control panel, and select pc graphics, and it stopped blackscreening.

But I don't have games on this pc, so idk if it still does that in games.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #435 on:** Mon, 24 March 2025, 23:32:27 »

This type of sag bracket is not gud'

1st, they're hard to install perfectly horizontal.

2nd, even if you get it horizontal, it won't be exactly parallel to the GPU

3rd, when you extend the little nub at the end, it's such a long lever arm, that it WILL-bend, further exacerbating the parallelism problem.

4th, they're thick enough to make the GPU look even chonkier than already very chonky.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #436 on:** Tue, 25 March 2025, 10:06:51 »

AMD dropped to 4 monitors max since the 7xxx series.

It would be interesting if they would release a big APU, then people can drive 4+4 monitors GPU+APU.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #437 on:** Tue, 25 March 2025, 12:04:44 »

Gon' try install dat winz 10 on old x120e. See what happn's might blow up from more than 2 tabs.

It's got ssd and 8gb wam.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #438 on:** Tue, 25 March 2025, 13:39:59 »

Errrmm.. Yea, it's kinda usable, but the windows defender antivirus scanning alone is killlling the Cpu.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #439 on:** Tue, 25 March 2025, 14:26:20 »

Can cooling performance be Toooo gud'.

If between matches, or within matches the temp delta is very high leading to board flex?

tp4tissue · « **Reply #440 on:** Wed, 26 March 2025, 10:15:21 »

OMG, The Tp4 submitted a bug report for a game almost no one plays to AMD,

AND THEY ACTUALLY FIXED IT.

OMG.. Team Red!!

tp4tissue · « **Reply #441 on:** Wed, 26 March 2025, 13:50:24 »

Optical hdmi cables. The problem is still usb. Can't quite get usb 3.0 cheaply.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #442 on:** Wed, 26 March 2025, 16:30:03 »

Agar solidifies @ 42C ?

Has ne1 tested vs PTM7950.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #443 on:** Thu, 27 March 2025, 07:51:36 »

There literally isn't nemore kewl parts to buy.

They're all just meh. more of the same.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #444 on:** Thu, 27 March 2025, 10:12:47 »

Wifi 7, 2000mbps same room line of sight. Hrrrm..

So I guess, 1 gbps will be pretty consistent throughout the house. That's pretty useful since it's faster than most wired setups.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #445 on:** Thu, 27 March 2025, 14:53:42 »

Design of horizontal dual chamber cases.

They take up more space. Front to back is the same because of gpu length, it's shorter top to bottom, but because nothing is stackable ontop of PCs, there's no real reason to save space here. The cable routing has some advantages, but this is probably the singular benefit.

That extra width is just wasted. And I'd say they're probably louder because now you got 2 different sized hollow cavities w/ different flow rates, leading to resonance.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #446 on:** Thu, 27 March 2025, 16:31:09 »

This 60% price increase coming on GPUs and boards.

/Headscratch. how, can you afford NOT to buy a gpoo right now. If a $1000 pc is suddenly $1600. That prices alot of people out of the market straight up.

Great news for scalpers. Not the 9070xt though, you still can't make much money on those $200-300, not even worth the effort.

Sniping · « **Reply #447 on:** Thu, 27 March 2025, 18:12:05 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 27 March 2025, 16:31:09

This 60% price increase coming on GPUs and boards.

/Headscratch. how, can you afford NOT to buy a gpoo right now. If a $1000 pc is suddenly $1600. That prices alot of people out of the market straight up.

Great news for scalpers. Not the 9070xt though, you still can't make much money on those $200-300, not even worth the effort.

hm, maybe I should hold onto my 2 GPUs for now before I sell the extra.. I helped my friend secure a 9070xt the other day for $730. seemed like a decent price considering it seems like the price is only going up from here. hopefully it was the right move.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #448 on:** Fri, 28 March 2025, 10:19:31 »

Thinking about suprgud' used pc build.

aliexpress

used 7700 $160
used 6600xt $200

ebay

used msi pro b650 $60
used 2x16gb ddr6000 ram $60
used psu namebrand, $60

amazon

thermalright heatsink $20

local,

pc case $20-50

>.... $580-610

Probably the bare minimum anyone should do. Very upgradable.

CPU within 90% of top tier @ 1440p

tp4tissue · « **Reply #449 on:** Fri, 28 March 2025, 14:09:27 »

Didn't even check the OC, seems after the Deshroud moddn'.

Before,

3050mhz, -25mv

After,

3300mhz, -50mv

Now thinking about putting some thermal pads on the back plate, but $20, rrrmmm.... $20..... an Endless stream of $20

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