Gvbament Shutdn'

[tp4tissue]

We have 51x presidents in this country. That's kinda why nothing ever gets done.


BENEFITS of our system: It is more resilient to the "Worst ideas" like mass solar/electric vehicles/wind buildout, Which are just fossil-fuel-derivative technologies, etc.


CONS to our system: Extremely expensive, inefficient,  Infrastructure maintenance costs insurmountable because every party/state involved wants a cut.


What the shutdown will do.

Immediate effect, lower demand, as millions of workers and adjacent workers go unpaid or laid off.

Deepen recession on everything outside of the AI-tech-bubble.



Thogthst ??

[fohat.digs]

It just about cruelty and diddling.

[tp4tissue]

Well, yes, but the cruelty part, 

Throughout democrat's reigns, they themselves codified most of the problems which led to the scummy insurance coporations being run.


So, they were never, and ARE never going to fix that, they're in on the take. 

MAYBE,, and Tp4 says MAYBE,  AOC has a genuine desire to give people medicine, we know BERNIE certainly does, he's the only real Jesus character out there.

But the REST of the demopoops are identical to their re****ican'ts counterparts.   

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

the REST of the demopoops are identical to their re****ican'ts counterparts.   

I wouldn't go THAT far, but I would agree that they are part of the problem.

We need a new party, run by LOGIC instead of MONEY

[tp4tissue]

That's one of those "ideals" we put on paper, but it fails in practice, because there are no singular constructs of power absent #numerical accounting of some form.


You take the numbers away, they'll move to gifts, or land, or prostitutes.


It makes no difference,  the Ponzi scheme isn't really a scheme, it's the DEFAULT of human-affairs.



Don't get too hung up on how the game is played,  this is PROBABLY the only way it Can-Be-Played,  millions of years of evolution,  you're not going to hit people over the head with  Words on a Page and change that   SOON-Enough for it to make a difference.


What we need to agree on isn't discontent over Rigged economies.

What we need to agree on is the END OF ANIMAL AGRICULTURE.   It is the singular MOST DESTRUCTIVE act perpetrated by MANKIND on our Bio-Sphere.

We feed 21 calories to a Cow, to produce 1 calorie.  THIS doesn't even account for Fossil Energy inputs in farming.

Animal agriculture uses the MOST non-ice-Dry-landmass on the planet earth (43% of it, IPCC data), the Opportunity cost is Natural Forests and Soil which sequester CARBON to the tune of 3x the total emitted by the Industrial Revolution till now.


IF THAT  DEFICIT is not fixed, the EXTINCTION HAMMER WILL FALL...



Politics is what it is,   TP4 just wants mankind TO LIVE.


Humans won't eat a vegetable to save their own life, let-along each other's, this species experiment is probably over.

[fohat.digs]

Johnson went on to praise Russ Vought, saying that "He gets to decide now what services are essential, what programs and policies should be continued, and which would not be a priority for taxpayers."

[tp4tissue]

In principle, the blue states could just starve out the red states.


Getting nothing done is on average better for the climate than the status-quo if it were all up and running.

Sooooooo... overallll ... This is negative for operations,  but positive for the planet ??

[noisyturtle]

I've got to get an updated license/RealID to fly for TG and I can't do **** this week because the DMV site is not accepting apps right now.
Then when things get running again there's gonna be a back log, and its already an almost 2 month process
They BETTER make some special stipulations for people flying this Holiday, because they created this goddamn situation!

[fohat.digs]

They

they

There is not a single unitary "they" - there are many governmental entities which do not play well together.

That is not necessarily a bad thing, it is not good for efficiency but it can be very helpful for privacy.

[noisyturtle]

They

they

There is not a single unitary "they" - there are many governmental entities which do not play well together.

That is not necessarily a bad thing, it is not good for efficiency but it can be very helpful for privacy.

sure, the DMV and the FAA are not the same department, but they are intrinsically linked and dependent on each other to their jobs smoothly. This current government has no concept of communication and dependencies between departments, they are actively disrupting that on a daily biases. Is it even to safe to fly right now?

[fohat.digs]

current government has no concept of communication and dependencies between departments

One of my greatest fears is that the explicit goal when the Muskrat had the major Federal Governmental agencies locked down and sent his "tech-bro" man-boys into computer rooms with orders to "download everything" onto the hard drives that they carried in with them - and bring it all back the the Master Muskrat Den where it could be "consolidated" in secret.

The bulk of that happened in the first 72 hours (and over a weekend) last January and was mostly over before the vast majority of the country even had an inkling that it was happening. The stated goal was "to make government more efficient" but the real goal was to give a small group of "tech-bros" a complete database of everybody and everything in the country to do with as they pleased.

Until last January, governmental agencies were deliberately kept in silos to protect our privacy and to ensure that there was no "master switch" to shut down the country. Today, not only is all that information out of its silos, but there may be any number of copies of it. Do you trust Elon Musk and Peter Theil with your medical history AND your financial history AND your personal and internet history - - A N D - - do you trust them to protect your information and keep you safe?

I feel like at least a few people are finally waking up to the unspeakable horror that they unleashed when they cast their precious votes to give control of their lives and our country to Drumpf and the Republicans.