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What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:00:42 »
Complaints about 'sharp' spacebars. I mean really? Are your fingers made of tissue paper?

Filco ping. Never heard it, I think it's all a bunch of hooey.

Stickering switches. OK, to clarify I understand doing it for looks. But as a switch stabilizer? I think that's a load of bullspunk.

Topre. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with Topre, I actually like the feel of Topre just fine. But I've never seen the appeal to the extent that some people put the Topre on a pedestal and forsake all other switches. It just smacks of circlejerk.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:03:55 »
KMAC: they're too expensive... I would much rather spend that much on a Topre and an ErgoDox


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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:04:45 »
full LED boards.  I don't get it. I want to be able to see my screen clearly not have the Vegas strip blasting my eyeballs.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:08:23 »
full LED boards.  I don't get it. I want to be able to see my screen clearly not have the Vegas strip blasting my eyeballs.

This. Backlighting. WTF?

If you are so deeply into it that you sit in the dark - Learn to Touch Type !
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:12:45 »
RGBY sets and anything wood. Wood rests or cases. I think I just love metal too much. Don't kill me The_Beast! =X

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:13:13 »
Wire keypullers - I sold mine because it would dent keycaps, and a plastic ring puller was easier. Those DAS ones are the best.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:20:43 »
backlighting I can see in mobile situations: laptops. still hard to justify even in dimly lit situations since most keyboard people are touch typists anyway.

Any of these korean customs make no sense to me. They don't offer anything, are ridiculously expensive. That goes for Korean springs as well. Who cares if it comes from Korea, custom compression springs could be easily made for MX switches in the USA.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:22:12 »
I don't get mx reds

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:26:29 »
Strange thread on a keyboard enthusiast forum  :p
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:28:34 »
Scroll Lock - What does it do? I've never used it in my lifetime, yet there it is...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:30:58 »
Scroll Lock - What does it do? I've never used it in my lifetime, yet there it is...

It used to scroll in word programs without having to use the arrows or mouse. Today all it really does is make the LED next to caps lock light up.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:34:30 »
Scroll Lock - What does it do? I've never used it in my lifetime, yet there it is...

It used to scroll in word programs without having to use the arrows or mouse. Today all it really does is make the LED next to caps lock light up.

How long ago are we talking? I'm 21 and I've never used it, so you must be one of the ancients from the dark ages of computing (pre-GUI).
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:35:50 »
How is this different from the "things you hate" thread?

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:36:55 »
Scroll Lock - What does it do? I've never used it in my lifetime, yet there it is...

It used to scroll in word programs without having to use the arrows or mouse. Today all it really does is make the LED next to caps lock light up.

How long ago are we talking? I'm 21 and I've never used it, so you must be one of the ancients from the dark ages of computing (pre-GUI).

I think the last time I used it was in Windows '98. I'm only 29 btw, ONLY 29! :'(

I should mention that it was in Wordstar.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:37:05 »
How is this different from the "things you hate" thread?

This is scoped to "keyboard" things. :P

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:37:22 »
I'm 31 and have never used Scroll Lock.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:38:58 »
Scroll Lock - What does it do? I've never used it in my lifetime, yet there it is...

You're both wrong.

Scroll Lock, as the name implies, locks the terminal from scrolling in modern usage. This prevents information from going off-screen when it is scrolling by at a rapid pace and less/more is not available.
Originally it was used to modify the behavior of the arrow keys. The exact opposite of the answer given - with Scroll Lock on, arrow keys would scroll through a document instead of moving the cursor. Some operating systems and BIOSes use it to trigger diagnostic output at POST/boot.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:50:22 »
Wireless keyboards.

The cord on the keyboard has never bothered me, and I don't 'get' the need for them. I will never get one.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:52:14 »
Wireless also isn't wireless. There is still that wire with that huge puck. Though some newer stuff has that little USB chip antenna.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:53:09 »
full LED boards.  I don't get it. I want to be able to see my screen clearly not have the Vegas strip blasting my eyeballs.

That's why old IBM laptops are so beast: they have a small light on top of the monitor to illuminate the keyboard
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:28:58 »
Novelty keycaps.
I mean I can sort of understand having ONE tasteful novelty keycap for Esc, but unicorn vomit boards and people who spend ungodly amounts of money for a single keycap just confuse me.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:33:08 »
Novelty keycaps.
I mean I can sort of understand having ONE tasteful novelty keycap for Esc, but unicorn vomit boards and people who spend ungodly amounts of money for a single keycap just confuse me.

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Oh gods yes this. I can understand wanting different color schemes and such, sure. I mean, I may yet load up my Ducky DK9008G2 with my white/grays from t because I like the white/gray scheme. But they're also, you know, keycaps. They have letters and symbols printed on them in a readable font. And it'd probably look quite nice.
But what the hell is the point of a CC? You're not going to use it on a keyboard, if you do it's going to be insanely uncomfortable for regular use, and so on. And crazy unreadable fonts like Deck's or some of the sets I've seen.. I mean really! What is the point? You just spent $150 to make your keyboard unreadable when you could have just gotten blank caps and achieved the same effect!
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:36:13 »
You can use scroll lock during bios boot screens to pause the screen on some boards. It is also used to swap between systems on some KVM's. Pause I have never used, and Insert  and caps lock I disable in software because I despise them.

Backlighting can be good if you are trying to work without lights. Not everyone can touch type that well, however they need to be dim, just like the screen.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:38:50 »
Filco ping:
I mean, I have it on all my Filco's. I just do not really get how this can really annoy anyone.  I think it is pretty OCD to get so concerned with it, even though I respect people's opinions and if it really bothers them, they should stay away.

Cherry MX Black:
They hurt my fingers. Literally. Of course I realize other people might like them, but for me, I do not really "get" it.Tthey feel horrible to me. They are the only Cherry switch where I honestly think that I would be better off with rubber dome (though you could lube them of course).

Full LED backlight:
An additional 104 things on the keyboard that can break and are more fragile than anything else. Also, I do not feel that backlighting makes for easy reading of the legends. The "glow" annoys me when using the keyboard. How often do you look at the keyboard anyway? Though they can look cool I guess.

Non-touch typists:
For people who do not use a PC often I get it. But how can you use a PC for hours a day, but not learn how to use the main input device? It does not take that much to learn really.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:40:56 »
I forgot to add: Girldc caps and Topre switches.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:42:34 »
CPTBadAss is a hipster. He only likes Alps. Everything else is too mainstream, even CCs. Oh, and he does like wood. Just not under his wrists.

What don't I get? Keyboard hipsters.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:44:09 »
Cherry Doubleshots ;)

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:45:51 »
Cherry Doubleshots ;)

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:46:46 »
Cherry Doubleshots ;)

Then get GMK doubleshots


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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:46:53 »
Cherry Doubleshots ;)

PBT. It's not as great as everyone makes it out to be. Cherry doubleshots are the best the best the best the best

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:47:47 »
Cherry Doubleshots ;)

PBT. It's not as great as everyone makes it out to be. Cherry doubleshots are the best the best the best the best

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:48:37 »
How have you guys never used scroll lock? 0.o


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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:50:12 »
CPTBadAss is a hipster. He only likes Alps. Everything else is too mainstream, even CCs. Oh, and he does like wood. Just not under his wrists.

What don't I get? Keyboard hipsters.

It's a hard life but someone has to live the keyboard hipster lifestyle. And I don't even like clones, legit Alps or bust kid :P

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PBT. It's not as great as everyone makes it out to be. Cherry doubleshots are the best the best the best the best

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:51:02 »
I've seen them. Are you secretly telling me you've been converted?

Scroll lock is the worst key known to man. After Insert.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 20:53:25 »
never used scroll lock

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 22:09:11 »
Scroll lock is the worst key known to man. After Insert.

Truest statement I've read all day.


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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 22:27:41 »
How have you guys never used scroll lock? 0.o


The_Ed the only caps you can 'dent' with a wire puller IME are Cherry ABS caps.

You're talking to a guy who has removed THOUSANDS of NIB cherry doubleshots... So yeah, wire keypullers dent them.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 22:42:05 »
I use scroll lock fairly often at work in excel. And I use insert in vim/perator.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 22:44:28 »
I'll never buy Imsto keycaps again. In fact I don't think I'll ever buy any keycaps that aren't GMK/BSP/Cherry.
I'll never buy a full LED board.
I'll never buy a 'gaming' keyboard ever again.
I'll never use a keyset that's only one colour. I honestly can't stand the look of keyboards that are all white or all black etc. I think they should have an accent - at least a different coloured esc key.
I've never understood standalone LEDs for the lock keys. The LEDs should be under the keycaps imo.
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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 22:56:59 »
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 23:16:40 »
Complaints about 'sharp' spacebars. I mean really? Are your fingers made of tissue paper?

Sadly I have this problem with Cherry profile spacebars :(  Namely my left thumb rests on the spacebar most of the time, around where the front edge is, and it does start to hurt after even 10 minutes of use.  OEM spacebar for me!
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 23:42:38 »
Filco ping:
I mean, I have it on all my Filco's. I just do not really get how this can really annoy anyone.  I think it is pretty OCD to get so concerned with it, even though I respect people's opinions and if it really bothers them, they should stay away.
Once I heard it, I found that every plate equipped Cherry keyboard I tried has done it. The only difference is that the Filco was a little more noticeable, but like you said, it's a bit OCD.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 00:32:40 »
1. Girldc cap
2. Unicorn vomit sets
3. Kmac
4. Full led backlit board
5. Pbt keycaps
6. Most novelty keycaps except skull clacks and brobots
7. TKL boards
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 00:48:45 »
Happy Hacking keyboards.

I think it's criminal that they charge so much for those boards, and people pay it. I believe that they probably feel great, but I can't imagine that it's any better than your favorite cherry flavor of choice. For the price you pay, it should also come with a small jar of children's tears.

IMO, there's a fine line between paying premium for something you want and getting screwed.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 00:55:55 »
I don't get mx reds

RGBY sets

I used to loathe MX Reds. I openly mocked my friend for even buying such a worthless switch on his CM Storm keyboard. I felt that my Blues were the only way to truly experience mechanical goodness.

Then I found myself frustrated with my typing speed, as I couldn't get over 70 for some reason. My friend went out of town and left his keyboard at my place for the weekend, and I decided to try it out. My typing speed went up to 95 after a day or two. I was totally shocked. I felt like I could finally type as fast as I knew that I should be able to. I loved everything about the reds: the sound, the feel, and the low actuation point. My fingers glide over the keys. They are now my favorite switches for typing, and I like them for gaming too.

Now I have to face him. I just ordered a Poker II in reds.

Offline TimIsABat

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:01:51 »
Not bottoming out on MX Browns or Reds (sometimes even blues).

I think bottoming out eventually happens with any switch, but I always wonder "Do you have feather fingers?"
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Offline kenmai9

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:04:48 »
How have you guys never used scroll lock? 0.o


The_Ed the only caps you can 'dent' with a wire puller IME are Cherry ABS caps.

I used scroll lock in Diablo II with maphack so I could pk people from outside my screen. :D

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:12:27 »
"Thick" PBT.
PING!
Second-hand Clack prices.
MX Browns.
People wanting to rip apart old/unusual boards just for parts.
Tipro modules as keycap showcases.

Also, scroll lock is the best thing if you happen to be on a text-only FreeBSD box. That was my senior year of college.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:12:35 »
Not bottoming out on MX Browns or Reds (sometimes even blues).

I think bottoming out eventually happens with any switch, but I always wonder "Do you have feather fingers?"

I don't bottom out my greens that often. Whole different weight class though. And I learned to touch type on them.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:32:00 »
I see GDC caps on here a lot and I was really in the same boat. Then I got one and was like 'oh, well now it makes sense.' Still a bit overpriced, but limited quantity handmade metal takes time.