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Offline BucklingSpring

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CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:45:07 »
Hi guys,

Just wanted to show what my CM Storm trigger spacebar looks after about 6 months of use.
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Waow... Grayish plastic already showing under the thin black paint.

It's a first for me. None of the black boards in my sig has displayed such a cheap behavior. Not even my TVS Gold.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 17:04:52 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:45:07
Hi guys,

Just wanted to show what my CM Storm trigger spacebar looks after about 6 months of use.
(Attachment Link)

Waow... Grayish plastic already showing under the thin black paint.

It's a first for me. None of the black boards in my sig has displayed such a cheap behavior. Not even my TVS Gold.
Its evolving!  :p
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 17:16:18 »
well, the trigger caps are translucent caps with a black coating...

So it has a weak coating.
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Offline BucklingSpring

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 18:47:04 »
ROFL you mean it's going to shed a skin and turn into a big translucent snake?

I'm going to have nightmares.  :eek:

Quote from: Signature on Sat, 19 October 2013, 17:04:52
Its evolving!  :p

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 18:50:57 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 October 2013, 17:16:18
well, the trigger caps are translucent caps with a black coating...

So it has a weak coating.

Right... So does my iOne/XArmor POS and although its keycaps turned shiny real quick. The coating was still holding after 6months.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 19:26:01 »
The space bar might be under different stresses than the rest of the keys.  Mine usually shine at about the exact point, but slightly more on top.  if you press the space with your thumb sliding slightly, it would speed up the coating removal, as opposed to most of the keys where you would just press the key straight down.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 19:41:21 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:45:07
Hi guys,

Just wanted to show what my CM Storm trigger spacebar looks after about 6 months of use.
(Attachment Link)

Waow... Grayish plastic already showing under the thin black paint.

It's a first for me. None of the black boards in my sig has displayed such a cheap behavior. Not even my TVS Gold.

My god, what do you do with your keyboard?  :eek:
I've used my TK for six months, and they have no dirt or wear on them besides some stuff on the plate (which I suppose I'll clean for the first time today).
Perhaps the Trigger uses cheaper keycaps. I ended up swapping my spacebar for the one on a Corsair K60, because it happens to be the same size, I think it's a 6.5x, and that one's much better so there haven't ben issues.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:00:41 »
Quote from: Linkbane on Sat, 19 October 2013, 19:41:21
Perhaps the Trigger uses cheaper keycaps. I ended up swapping my spacebar for the one on a Corsair K60, because it happens to be the same size, I think it's a 6.5x, and that one's much better so there haven't ben issues.

Hell no it doesn't.

Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:45:07
Hi guys,

Just wanted to show what my CM Storm trigger spacebar looks after about 6 months of use.
(Attachment Link)

Waow... Grayish plastic already showing under the thin black paint.

It's a first for me. None of the black boards in my sig has displayed such a cheap behavior. Not even my TVS Gold.

That's not really normal, I've had mine for almost a year and the only key that has some kind of failure is the right arrow (kinda weird, since I almost never use it), but if you find CM Storm Trigger keycaps bad, don't even dare getting a CM Quick Fire TK/Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013/Corsair K70 or K95/*Insert Gaming Keyboard here*.



Here's a comparison between a Logitech G710+, Tt Meka G-Unit, Metadot Das Keyboard Model S Professional (Costar), Corsair K70 and CM Storm Trigger keycaps:



Anyways, if you find them bad, go straight for a Déck Legend or ofc, a good nonbacklit keyboard, always prefered those myself as well  :p
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:12:44 »
Might have been a bad batch of keycaps - thinner coating or something.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 22:15:34 »
I agree, the Trigger has one of the absolute worst key caps I've ever had the misfortune of buying. I'd gotten a used Trigger (wanted it as it has MX Green switches), was told it was in 'perfect' condition but when I'd taken possession of it, I was thoroughly disappointed with the condition of the WASD and space bar.....the space bar on mine look like it had similar wear like those of the TS/OP. I've always said that CM should take a look into this, absolutely unacceptable quality from them. Anyway, I'd replaced the WASD and space bar since I use it mainly for gaming, and these keys see the most wear...
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 11:28:37 »
Quote from: Linkbane on Sat, 19 October 2013, 19:41:21
My god, what do you do with your keyboard?  :eek:
I've used my TK for six months, and they have no dirt or wear on them besides some stuff on the plate (which I suppose I'll clean for the first time today).

I don't do anything special. As for the dust, it's really not that bad. The lightning for the picture was from the side and it really makes it look worst than it is.


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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 11:45:21 »
Quote from: wetto on Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:00:41
That's not really normal, I've had mine for almost a year and the only key that has some kind of failure is the right arrow (kinda weird, since I almost never use it), but if you find CM Storm Trigger keycaps bad, don't even dare getting a CM Quick Fire TK/Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013/Corsair K70 or K95/*Insert Gaming Keyboard here*.

*Insert Gaming Keyboards here* Yeah I know. I originally picked the CM QFR with Green cause it was what I thought the best option out there for Green at the time.
I ended up with a QFR with many defective non clicky Greens. The story turned into a Customer Service nightmare after countless back and forth, CM finally replaced the QFR Green with a Storm Trigger with Greens because they were going to be out of stock for a while.

Quote from: wetto on Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:00:41
Anyways, if you find them bad, go straight for a Déck Legend or ofc, a good nonbacklit keyboard, always prefered those myself as well  :p

Try (more) on my sig... You'll see that I already own 2 Decks. Trust me, if they were making Legend with Greens, I would have never go the CM route.

I whish Deck were selling keysets... Anyway as for the CM Storm Trigger, CM could have used black plastic for its spacebar since there is no fonts to light up on it, thus no need to use a coated translucent key.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 11:56:56 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sun, 20 October 2013, 11:45:21
Quote from: wetto on Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:00:41
That's not really normal, I've had mine for almost a year and the only key that has some kind of failure is the right arrow (kinda weird, since I almost never use it), but if you find CM Storm Trigger keycaps bad, don't even dare getting a CM Quick Fire TK/Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013/Corsair K70 or K95/*Insert Gaming Keyboard here*.

*Insert Gaming Keyboards here* Yeah I know. I originally picked the CM QFR with Green cause it was what I thought the best option out there for Green at the time.
I ended up with a QFR with many defective non clicky Greens. The story turned into a Customer Service nightmare after countless back and forth, CM finally replaced the QFR Green with a Storm Trigger with Greens because they were going to be out of stock for a while.

Quote from: wetto on Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:00:41
Anyways, if you find them bad, go straight for a Déck Legend or ofc, a good nonbacklit keyboard, always prefered those myself as well  :p

Try (more) on my sig... You'll see that I already own 2 Decks. Trust me, if they were making Legend with Greens, I would have never go the CM route.

I whish Deck were selling keysets... Anyway as for the CM Storm Trigger, CM could have used black plastic for its spacebar since there is no fonts to light up on it, thus no need to use a coated translucent key.

Yeah, I saw your signature only later. I also wish Déck had more switch choices (and especially, font choices, for god's sake, the only company that does a backlit keyboard with a font that doesn't looks bad is Corsair).

Anyways, unfortunately that happens on other backlit keyboards as well, they probably just can't use other kinds of keycaps on the keyboard... :(


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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 19:12:19 »
I still don't understand what people expect from coated caps.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 21:23:51 »
Quote from: gigibecali on Sun, 20 October 2013, 19:12:19
I still don't understand what people expect from coated caps.

I guess once you get burnt once, you know what to expect.

I now like the [insert gaming keyboard]=[Junk keycap] rule of thumb.

Of course with the exception of Deck's where they search and replace "Junk" by "ugly"
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 01:57:49 »
I think your best bet is replacing the keys with higher quality caps, but most of the higher quality caps aren't back light friendly.
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:21:22 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 19 October 2013, 18:47:04
ROFL you mean it's going to shed a skin and turn into a big translucent snake?

I'm going to have nightmares.  :eek:

Quote from: Signature on Sat, 19 October 2013, 17:04:52
Its evolving!  :p
And thats only the first part of the evolve  :confused:
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:24:02 »
Quote from: PrisonSex on Mon, 21 October 2013, 01:57:49
I think your best bet is replacing the keys with higher quality caps, but most of the higher quality caps aren't back light friendly.

Ducky Shine keycaps sets are 100% compatible:
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=228
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=229
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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 17:22:16 »
Quote from: PrisonSex on Mon, 21 October 2013, 01:57:49
I think your best bet is replacing the keys with higher quality caps, but most of the higher quality caps aren't back light friendly.

As I wrote on one of the reply. The spacebar on the CM Trigger is not backlit so I wouldn't care if it is not backlit friendly.
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Offline BucklingSpring

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 17:26:39 »
Quote from: wetto on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:24:02
Ducky Shine keycaps sets are 100% compatible:
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=228
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=229

Thanks I'll think of it. I don't own any Ducky yet. Are these keycaps any better than the CoolerMaster?
I don't feel to spend $40 + shipping just to get 4 quarters for a dollar.
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Ducky x2 (9008G2 Pro PBT/MX Green and Mini MX Red), Matias x2 (QP and Mini QP Dampened ALPS), Topre RealForce x4 (87U 55g/Digilog case, 103U-UW & 104UG High-Profile x2), Filco Majestouch x2 (TKL MX Blue & V2 AI 104 MX Blue), IBM-M x2 (BS & RD), Unicomp-M x5 (BS black on black x2, BS Ivory x2, QT Ultra-Classic), Deck x4 (Legend MX Black & MX Clear, Hassium & Francium w/ MX Brown), DAS III (MX Blue), KBT Pure Pro 60% (MX Red), NMB-RT8256CW+ x2 (black space invader), XArmor U9BL-S (MX Brown) given for free to someone I hate, CM X2 (Trigger/MX Green + Storm TKL/NovaTouch), TVS GOLD (MX Blue) and a many many more (NMB, DELL, MS, ATT, KeyTronic, Etc...)

Offline perche

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:53:54 »

a,s and d



L, m and n



the rubber coat

after 3 moth



http://imgur.com/a/qu9oZ#4

after 1 year.


btw i send a mail to cm support with this pictures and they send me a new wrist and new key for change the damaged one.
« Last Edit: Sun, 01 June 2014, 11:05:02 by perche »
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Offline katushkin

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:58:39 »
Keycaps from the backlit KC boards are good.
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Offline perche

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Re: CM Storm trigger - keycrap
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 01 June 2014, 11:08:06 »
Quote from: katushkin on Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:58:39
Keycaps from the backlit KC boards are good.

yes but my problem is the iso  spanish layout   :(.
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