i7-3770k overclocking with z77ag45 and hyperevo 212

[Naweo]

I dont care about CS:GO - CSGO was just the game I crashed.

LIke i said earlier, I am a professional starcraft 2 player and THAT IS WHERE CPU MATTERS!

(Minor jesus Christ)

Anyway I hope you agree a heatsink with 2 radiators and 2 fans instead of 1 radiator with 1 fan is better

Same foot level now yes?

[osi]

I dont care about CS:GO - CSGO was just the game I crashed.

LIke i said earlier, I am a professional starcraft 2 player and THAT IS WHERE CPU MATTERS!

(Minor jesus Christ)

Ahh sorry, missed the starcraft bit up there.

Anyway I hope you agree a heatsink with 2 radiators and 2 fans instead of 1 radiator with 1 fan is better

Same foot level now yes?

Can't blindly agree here. That answer you can only know for sure if you test both setups and check the results.

[Skull_Angel]

I like using Arctic Cooling MX-2 TIM personally; good thermal conductivity, easy application, and virtually no cure time, it is quite easy to clean up and isn't electrically conductive either. Makes it idiot proof for when I have to go through the house for a yearly/bi-yearly reseating, haha.

[tp4tissue]

Okay thanks, Last question:

Do you think a noctua nh-d14 + Arctic 5 is a good combo to attempt reducing my temperatures?

No, it's a complete waste of money..

The reason Ivy and Haswell is hot, is because the dies are much smaller this time around..

so no matter how BIG your cooler, it doesn't cool well due to the lower surface that it can be in contact with the Chip..

Ontop of this size issue,  there's also the fact that they use a tim under the heat spreader instead of soldering the chip to the heat spreader like the original Sandybridge..



The ONLY WAY to get cool running ivy / haswell is dellidding..  there's no way around this...

[Naweo]

Which way should the fan on the heatsink face to make optimal airflow?

I believe my cabinet gets cool air  from front and out the back like std.

[tp4tissue]

Which way should the fan on the heatsink face to make optimal airflow?

I believe my cabinet gets cool air  from front and out the back like std.

in case of ivy / haswell

if you're using direct contact heat pipes.. the evo

it's best to either have it face up  or down.. that way the core is oriented to touch all four pipes rather than only the middle 2.

Again.. without dellid.. this may not do much..

it also depends on whether or not your chip ihs is concaved or convexed

[Naweo]

I spend about 4 hours working on my computer since the hyperevo + motherboard screws are about as badly designed as possible. I had to disconnect everything in order to do this, and now I am very afraid I might have done something wrong.

After reapplying thermal paste and reseated cooler gpu and everything: note that some of the thermal paste has hid the cpu-lock metal etc, but it has not hit the motherboard, but this is simply because it is _IMPOSSIBLE_ to place the cooler without it throttles and rubbles around due to the most retarded screwing system known to man kind.

My computer basiaclly shuts on and off every 3 seconds now and I have tried troubleshooting looking for loose cables and electrical shorts. I am afraid I have killed my motherboard or I have placed some of the cords at the wrong area. I am partiqulairily afraid the "power sw + led" has been put into the wrong plug, I  believe I put it into the Front Panel Connector.

The GPU + PCI-E cords should be in place as well.

Any help?

[tp4tissue]

I spend about 4 hours working on my computer since the hyperevo + motherboard screws are about as badly designed as possible. I had to disconnect everything in order to do this, and now I am very afraid I might have done something wrong.

After reapplying thermal paste and reseated cooler gpu and everything: note that some of the thermal paste has hid the cpu-lock metal etc, but it has not hit the motherboard, but this is simply because it is _IMPOSSIBLE_ to place the cooler without it throttles and rubbles around due to the most retarded screwing system known to man kind.

My computer basiaclly shuts on and off every 3 seconds now and I have tried troubleshooting looking for loose cables and electrical shorts. I am afraid I have killed my motherboard or I have placed some of the cords at the wrong area. I am partiqulairily afraid the "power sw + led" has been put into the wrong plug, I  believe I put it into the Front Panel Connector.

The GPU + PCI-E cords should be in place as well.

Any help?

What?  what happened.. where is the thermal paste running to?

and you're saying now you're getting poor contact with the evo?

[Naweo]

Hello tp4tissure and thanks for answer.

I am not sure what happened but I am quite sure that the thermal paste amount is good, its just spread badly.

My computer keeps retsartings every 3 seconds and I dont know why.

What would be the typical reason after reapplying thermal paste?

What do you mean "what is thermal paste running to?"

It is on the CPU lid, but also a bit on the cpu lock etc. I am confident its not donig anything wrong.

After this experience I am quite sure I am not going to delid my CPU myself. I am slightly stressed out with this situation.

I think I will open up new forunms threads in attempt to get more valuable insight just like your own insights today.

[Naweo]

I am back up and running, I put white instead of black cord with sata disk.

Back to OC:

Right now I am on 4.3 ghz idling at 40 temperatures, seems I managed to get a few 3-4 dgress down after reinstalling fans and applying new thermal paste.

[tp4tissue]

I am back up and running, I put white instead of black cord with sata disk.

Back to OC:

Right now I am on 4.3 ghz idling at 40 temperatures, seems I managed to get a few 3-4 dgress down after reinstalling fans and applying new thermal paste.

naweo.. the best cpu non-dellided will hit temp wall around 4.6, because once you're past that, you need at least another 10-15 Celsius head room at the far end..

No extra fan, airflow will help.

You can get water, but to be honest... that's another $100.. and $100 to get another 200mhz is a bit insane when the Cpu itself only worth $200-$250

water will also only give you 6-10 celsius not 10-15..

whereas  delid will give you 15-25


if you're just in F34r watch some more youtube videos.. it's really really easy/ straightforward..   

if you don't like the freezer method..  you can also just cut it with the exacto..

[Naweo]

If I can manage 4.5 or 4.6 ghz to my needs satisfactionally, i will avoid delidding.

If I REALLY need more than that, I will return...

[osi]

Glad to here that you have recovered your rig

[trizkut]

if you're just in F34r watch some more youtube videos.. it's really really easy/ straightforward..   

if you don't like the freezer method..  you can also just cut it with the exacto..

I'm quite fond of the vise+hammer method 

[tp4tissue]

if you're just in F34r watch some more youtube videos.. it's really really easy/ straightforward..   

if you don't like the freezer method..  you can also just cut it with the exacto..

I'm quite fond of the vise+hammer method 

I know righ?   it's like  this

Turn freezer to Deep Freeze (highest setting)

scotch tape over cpu contacts

Put Cpu in freezer

Take Cpu out

Put into vice.

Hammer time.

Boom..  -20Celsius  + 200mhz

// Happiness

[Naweo]

I have a couple of old chips around... I want to try the vice method...

All youtube guides says that you dont need to freeze, just tighten it up and bang the adhersive with wood+hammer.

True?

[tp4tissue]

I have a couple of old chips around... I want to try the vice method...

All youtube guides says that you dont need to freeze, just tighten it up and bang the adhersive with wood+hammer.

True?

Um....  Yes... but  freezing is better because it makes the adhesive brittle..

If it's a HOT day.. then the adhesive gains a more goopy consistency.. so that may not be good, because it could Catch the hammer down and change the strike angle slightly, which could cause you to dig against the core or flex the chip


You can not do this with all chips.. some have soldered IHS..   but you can for sure do it to haswell and ivy because we know those do not have soldered IHS..

[Naweo]

So 3770k is good 2 go for delidding without freeze?

[tp4tissue]

So 3770k is good 2 go for delidding without freeze?

i wouldn't do it without freezing. especially in the summer.

[Naweo]

Ye I agree.

By the way, if I have a better fan than the standard hyperevo and the case fans, which place would be the best place to use it? On case or on cpu?

Also, if the hyperevo fan seems relatively "hard" to spin with fingers, does it mean that itīs worse? since it obviously requires more energy to spin i guess the RPM is less.


Any chance you guys know where to buy fan clips/brackets?

Thanks for everything guys.