The problem with Eating healthy..

[tp4tissue]

So let's say you're going for 500 calories per meal..

That's 1 pack of ramen..   mission-complete..


Try doing the same thing with Fruits + Veggies, 

We're looking at about, 3 bananas + 3 oranges, to get around 500 calories.


There's alot of BULK when you try to eat healthy.. 



Sigh...  All of this may be goood for health..   But it's a lot of hassle..


It's not easy to put down so much volume per meal, so now you have to eat many smaller meals.. that's MORE time taken up....


sigh... I can't wait till they replace internal organs with some sort of mechanical protein/sugar/lipids regulator..

[fohat.digs]

The problem with eating healthy is that good fresh food means frequent trips to the store.

[smknjoe]

The problem with eating healthfully is having to cook.

[tp4tissue]

all good points...

Top ramen for breakfast, brunch, lunch, liner, dinner..  2500 calories for the active lifestyle..

[JPG]

The great thing about eating healthy is that you feel good and stay more healthy, more so in the long run.


Yea you need to cook it yourself cause it seems it's too f***ing hard to mass produce healthy foods. There's some, but they are very few if you look closely and don't fall for most marketing crap like "with omega-3, or no gluten, etc." while the thing you buy has a minimal amount of omega-3 added and never had gluten to begin with (and where does this hate of the gluten comes from???).


Anyway, I agree it's more trouble to cook it, but I am pretty sure it's worth it a lot if you consider all the time you will be healthy VS ill in your whole life because you eat well/bad all your life.

[Lurch]

i feel healthy when i don't gorge on carbs

[azhdar]

so if I want to try top ramen in France how should I do dear ramen master?

Well if you want to quit the ramen life and eat healthier, the easiest way is to find a girl who can cook. But it's pretty expensive because you can't only give her ingredients, you have to talk to her, take her out, entertain her ... Pretty much like a dog but with the ocasional sex. So it's time and money consuming, even more once she want to generate hungry little humans.

Or you could live with parents, but I'm unsure Tp4 was produced by humans being.

[smknjoe]

I don't have trouble getting enough calories in a "healthy" diet. I have more trouble keeping the calorie count down. You're not eating enough meat or fatty fruits like avocados.

Breakfast today:

Small slice of "organic" ham browned in a cast iron pan.
Aged white cheddar melted on top.
Mushrooms and a whole fresh jalapeno sauteed in butter on top of the cheese.
and two fried eggs (what some call over easy) to top it off.

That's about 600 calories right there.

 About $1-$1.25 in ingredients.

[SpAmRaY]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

[Melvang]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

While it is easy to spend more to eat healthy, it is possible to eat healthy for relatively cheap.  Though it does take a fair amount of research on your part in your locale to find nutrient dense foods that are cheap.

[tp4tissue]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

While it is easy to spend more to eat healthy, it is possible to eat healthy for relatively cheap.  Though it does take a fair amount of research on your part in your locale to find nutrient dense foods that are cheap.

The trouble I am running into right now,  is TIME..  I can't eat healthy while maintaining a low time-expense..

I've considered switching completely to Fruit carbs,  but ultimately I still have to cook some vegetables and meats..

[Bromono]

It's not as hard as you think. And fruit is not as good for you as you think. It has a lot of vitamins and minerals but also a lot of simple sugar. Bulk cook chicken breast, brown rice, beans, and veggies on a Sunday for the whole week. Put them in plastic wear and heat up in microwave. Eat 3 meals a day you don't have to eat more smaller ones.

Breakfast: Consume 30 grams of protein upon waking. (Shake)
Lunch: my rice chicken and broccoli made from Sunday.
Workout: Shake
Dinner: rice, sausage, beans, and veggies from Sunday.

Done.

This is when I am just maintaining though. When I cut I eliminate carbs and go into ketosis and when I bulk I add way more fat and carbs to my diet.

Even just cutting soda and juice from your diet and eating everything else the same. You will see improvements.

Also: if you don't want to cook and save time. Chipotle is amaizing. Burrito bowls with no/brown rice double beans and lots of veggies.

[Jokrik]

lol I dont even know what to reply for this thread

I know for a fact when I started eating healthy and lose around 15kg to my ideal weight
my life is a lot better in every way, besides more chance of getting laid

[fohat.digs]

where does this hate of the gluten comes from?

99% of the population has no problem with gluten, and gluten-related diets are a stupid fad.

However, 1% of the population has "celiac disease" in which gluten causes an auto-immune type reaction which severely damages the lining of the small intestine and prevents nutrients from being absorbed. It is a very serious problem.

I know this because my son was diagnosed with it a few years ago.

[cmadrid]

It's not as hard as you think. And fruit is not as good for you as you think. It has a lot of vitamins and minerals but also a lot of simple sugar. Bulk cook chicken breast, brown rice, beans, and veggies on a Sunday for the whole week. Put them in plastic wear and heat up in microwave. Eat 3 meals a day you don't have to eat more smaller ones.

Breakfast: Consume 30 grams of protein upon waking. (Shake)
Lunch: my rice chicken and broccoli made from Sunday.
Workout: Shake
Dinner: rice, sausage, beans, and veggies from Sunday.

Done.

This is when I am just maintaining though. When I cut I eliminate carbs and go into ketosis and when I bulk I add way more fat and carbs to my diet.

Even just cutting soda and juice from your diet and eating everything else the same. You will see improvements.

Also: if you don't want to cook and save time. Chipotle is amaizing. Burrito bowls with no/brown rice double beans and lots of veggies.

It would be even better if you can manage to avoid plastic containers..  Much better diet than I manage tho!

[ideus]

The problem with NOT eating healthy is ... your health. Who does not want to live healthy golden years. More hassle to eat healthy? I'd prefer that hassle to the one some one eating junk has when at the W.C. LOL.

[drewba]

The trouble I am running into right now,  is TIME..  I can't eat healthy while maintaining a low time-expense..

I've considered switching completely to Fruit carbs,  but ultimately I still have to cook some vegetables and meats..

That is just an excuse. If time is your issue, stop posting so much on GH. I'm not trying to be an ass - you have the time, you just choose to spend it on things other than planning/cooking meals.

Few time-friendly suggestions: raw vegetables (minimal prep), fruit, nuts, yogurt, hummus, edamame, high quality grains, etc.

Eggs take little to no time for prep, cooking takes 2-3 minutes. Fish is expensive but cooks in 5-7 minutes. I make huge batches of Chicken Breast, brown rice & black meals. I portion everything out in containers and I have food for the whole week (or longer if I freeze it). Depending how I'm feeling that day, I'll add sriracha/hoison, or BBQ sauce, or mole, or whatever sauce/topping you like. It takes about an hour to do everything, is healthy and CHEAP. If you're not in to rice or beans, there are a million other healthy/cheap/fast options out there, you just have to find one you like and will actually do. 

[JPG]

where does this hate of the gluten comes from?

99% of the population has no problem with gluten, and gluten-related diets are a stupid fad.

However, 1% of the population has "celiac disease" in which gluten causes an auto-immune type reaction which severely damages the lining of the small intestine and prevents nutrients from being absorbed. It is a very serious problem.

I know this because my son was diagnosed with it a few years ago.

Yea this I know. But it's like nuts, yea some people are allergic to it and it's good if something is labelled having it or not, but for those 99% of the population there's no reason not to eat gluten. In fact, many very good and healthy foods contain gluten and should not be avoided unless you're in this 1%.


My problem with gluten is that they are promoting gluten free diets as if it was better than a diet that includes gluten which is not as far as I know, and even could be worse if not balanced carefully, unless you have the celiac disease for sure.

[Melvang]

where does this hate of the gluten comes from?

99% of the population has no problem with gluten, and gluten-related diets are a stupid fad.

However, 1% of the population has "celiac disease" in which gluten causes an auto-immune type reaction which severely damages the lining of the small intestine and prevents nutrients from being absorbed. It is a very serious problem.

I know this because my son was diagnosed with it a few years ago.

Yea this I know. But it's like nuts, yea some people are allergic to it and it's good if something is labelled having it or not, but for those 99% of the population there's no reason not to eat gluten. In fact, many very good and healthy foods contain gluten and should not be avoided unless you're in this 1%.


My problem with gluten is that they are promoting gluten free diets as if it was better than a diet that includes gluten which is not as far as I know, and even could be worse if not balanced carefully, unless you have the celiac disease for sure.

This.  Gluten occurs naturally in some grains.  I remember reading a study done on gluten free and its effect on people.  It was determined that the vast majority that say they are "gluten sensitive" turns out to be an issue with something else and the gluten is just a placebo effect.  Most of the foods that are labeled "GLUTEN FREE" these days are gluten free by default.   The one time I make it a point to buy gluten free is one kind of beer that is brewed from sorghum.   That stuff is delish.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

[noisyturtle]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

qft

[Melvang]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

[tbc]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

that's not including the approximately $24 in related future healthcare fees.

[drewba]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

You're absolutely right. Eating healthy CAN BE more expensive if you routinely shop at whole foods or feel the need to buy organic farm raised kale (for instance). I started eating clean 18 months ago and spend a lot less. Of course I needed to find new grocery stores (Aldi FTW), learn new recipes & research what foods are actually healthy but it's a small price to pay when it comes to increasing your quality of life and spending less.

I will recognize the fact that your location has a lot to do with how much you will pay in food, but I think for the most part the "healthy food = more expensive" is just laziness or parroting.

[ideus]

If the title were "The excuse for not eating healthy", most of the comments shared would fit well.

[noisyturtle]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99¢
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

If the title were "The excuse for not eating healthy", most of the comments shared would fit well.

You've obviously lived a privileged life and never had to budget out each day individually because you have no idea what you're saying. Live on $50 a week for 5 years straight then see if you sing the same tune.

[SpAmRaY]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

that's not including the approximately $24 in related future healthcare fees.

Most people who would live on a cheesburger diet probably don't pay for their healthcare anyway. 

[noisyturtle]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

that's not including the approximately $24 in related future healthcare fees.

Most people who would live on a cheesburger diet probably don't pay for their healthcare anyway. 

^

[drewba]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99¢
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

You're still doing it wrong. http://imgur.com/gallery/pHUdq

Again, I'm not trying to be an *******. But if you put more time & effort in to it, you can eat well on a college budget.

[tbc]

Is eating healthy more expensive? It's hard to beat a $1 cheeseburger.

that's not including the approximately $24 in related future healthcare fees.

Most people who would live on a cheesburger diet probably don't pay for their healthcare anyway. 

lol

WAT IS HAPPENING TO 'MURICA

[Melvang]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99�
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

If the title were "The excuse for not eating healthy", most of the comments shared would fit well.

You've obviously lived a privileged life and never had to budget out each day individually because you have no idea what you're saying. Live on $50 a week for 5 years straight then see if you sing the same tune.

No I just had to eat roadkill and what we could catch for fish as a kid because my mom worked as a janitor, and my dad couldn't work for about 10 years or so due to a broken neck.  We NEVER had frozen dinner **** in our house.  Per nutrient value, it is MUCH cheaper to eat healthy.

[noisyturtle]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99�
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

You're still doing it wrong. http://imgur.com/gallery/pHUdq

Yeah, beans/rice/canned veggies work too. I get tired of rice really fast so microwave meals were able to provide more choices.

If you only ate rice you could survive off of 2 bags a week, which at my store are about $8-10 each. Supplemented with beans - about $4 for 4 bags a week. Add canned veggies at .99 and you will wind up fairly close to that $30 mark I mentioned. Albeit that extra $5 means a lot on a bootstrap budget. I have no idea where they are getting 5lb bags of rice for $5, additionally it's about 2 cups of rice a day to live off of, which comes out to 14 cups a week. Given that 2 cups of rice = apprx. 1lb, that article is already not matching the real costs of food

[Melvang]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99�
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

You're still doing it wrong. http://imgur.com/gallery/pHUdq

Yeah, beans/rice/canned veggies work too. I get tired of rice really fast so microwave meals were able to provide more choices.

If you only ate rice you could survive off of 2 bags a week, which at my store are about $8-10 each. Supplemented with beans - about $4 for 4 bags a week. Add canned veggies at .99 and you will wind up fairly close to that $30 mark I mentioned. Albeit that extra $5 means a lot on a bootstrap budget.

But that is much closer to a sustainable diet than 1 or 2 microwave dinners and a 6 pack of ramen.  The thread was about eating healthy not just eating.

[drewba]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99�
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

You're still doing it wrong. http://imgur.com/gallery/pHUdq

Yeah, beans/rice/canned veggies work too. I get tired of rice really fast so microwave meals were able to provide more choices.

If you only ate rice you could survive off of 2 bags a week, which at my store are about $8-10 each. Supplemented with beans - about $4 for 4 bags a week. Add canned veggies at .99 and you will wind up fairly close to that $30 mark I mentioned. Albeit that extra $5 means a lot on a bootstrap budget.

Yeah I hear ya, I think the difference is you're probably getting way more rice/beans for your dollar than $.99 Michelina's. I've eaten my fair shares of those and I really needed to eat a couple of them to fill me up.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

i'll eat healthy when my metabolism slows with age... (probably in my 30s)

in the meantime i'll eat whatever i want because my young metabolism can handle it without making me fat or giving me a heart attack

also by the time i'm 30 i'll be sick of cheap food and have the motivation to actually cook

[drewba]

i'll eat healthy when my metabolism slows with age... (probably in my 30s)

in the meantime i'll eat whatever i want because my young metabolism can handle it without making me fat or giving me a heart attack

also by the time i'm 30 i'll be sick of cheap food and have the motivation to actually cook

Famous last words




I kid, I kid

[noisyturtle]

The problem with eating healthy is that it's goddamn expensive.

not with a bit of research for what is available in your area.  In fact, once you get the hang of it, it is cheaper than buying premade **** they pass off as a meal at the grocery store.

It's really not.
1 cheap microwaveable meal (Michalena's/Banquet) = .99�
1 better microwavable meal = $1.99
6-pack of Ramen = $1

That means I can feed myself for an entire week - 7 days - for around $30. Can prepared meals do that? Hell no. At Trader Joe's $30 will buy you enough food for 2-3 days at most.

You're still doing it wrong. http://imgur.com/gallery/pHUdq

Yeah, beans/rice/canned veggies work too. I get tired of rice really fast so microwave meals were able to provide more choices.

If you only ate rice you could survive off of 2 bags a week, which at my store are about $8-10 each. Supplemented with beans - about $4 for 4 bags a week. Add canned veggies at .99 and you will wind up fairly close to that $30 mark I mentioned. Albeit that extra $5 means a lot on a bootstrap budget.

But that is much closer to a sustainable diet than 1 or 2 microwave dinners and a 6 pack of ramen.  The thread was about eating healthy not just eating.

They are not that bad for you. In fact there is a law that microwaveable meals must contain at least 4 parts starch to 2 parts meat to 2 parts vegetables to be labeled as a 'meal'.
That are however chock full of sodium.

You can argue with me all day, you won't make me see things differently. I lived like that for nearly a decade and have tried every which way from dollar items at fast food joints, to rice and bean diets, to killing rabbits in a near-by warren (way too much trouble for too little reward) and microwave meals were the easiest cheapest and most convenient way to feed myself on an extreme budget.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

i'll eat healthy when my metabolism slows with age... (probably in my 30s)

in the meantime i'll eat whatever i want because my young metabolism can handle it without making me fat or giving me a heart attack

also by the time i'm 30 i'll be sick of cheap food and have the motivation to actually cook

Famous last words




I kid, I kid

tomorrow is Friday the 13th...

[noisyturtle]

There's another one next month too.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

There's another one next month too.

those Febuary-March Friday the 13ths...

historically they have not been good for me... let's hope it's merely coincidence...

[JinDesu]

Caveat - this requires storage, freezer, and taste buds of a person without a nose (i.e. I eat chicken and broccoli every day so I'm used to it), and some cooking skills.

Wegman's grocery in Pennsylvania:
5lbs of white rice - $5
7.5lbs of chicken breasts (family pack) - $15
5lbs of broccoli (or insert equivalent veggie here) - $10

Feeds 3 meals a day, 7 days a week. Approximately 13,350 calories (Typical male is 1900 calories/day resting x 7 = 13,300 calories a week). The dense chicken and broccoli will keep you filled, and the rice will provide the energy needed to do generic stuff. This is assuming you aren't going and exercising every day - because then obviously you'll need to eat more.

The above will give you around:
8g of fiber a day
120g of protein a day
300g of carbs a day

I've eaten chicken and broccoli every day for lunch and I went from 180lbs to 155lbs in about 5 months just by using that meal to help cut my calories. So it can be done, just not very enjoyable.

[Melvang]

but there is way more to a proper diet than just protein, carbs, and fiber

[JinDesu]

but there is way more to a proper diet than just protein, carbs, and fiber

I didn't bother listing everything because I am teeeechnically working, but the meat, vegetables, and grains provide you with almost everything you'd need. Especially given the nutrient enriched rice that most groceries sells nowadays. And it's in comparison with microwave meals.

[jdcarpe]

but there is way more to a proper diet than just protein, carbs, and fiber

yes, there is also fats



The problem with Eating healthy... is that I hate the taste of vegetables and fruits.

[JinDesu]

but there is way more to a proper diet than just protein, carbs, and fiber

yes, there is also fats



The problem with Eating healthy... is that I hate the taste of vegetables and fruits.

Chicken has fats~
Yeah as I said, it's for people who can handle the lack of taste. Maybe throw on some cajun spices or something. I personally am holding out ok after something like 8 months of it for lunch every day, but I'm known for having no taste =p

[SpAmRaY]

but there is way more to a proper diet than just protein, carbs, and fiber

yes, there is also fats



The problem with Eating healthy... is that I hate the taste of vegetables and fruits.

There are a lot of foods I swore I didn't like or wouldn't ever eat but I've found much has to do with preparation and presentation. I do have a few friends who literally only eat meat and potatoes and have sworn off any other vegetable and/or fruit of any kind.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

meat and potatoes are good...

but i also like brussels sprouts... good flavor for a vegetable

[jdcarpe]

I will eat green beans, if they are cooked with onions and bacon. My wife protests, saying that adding bacon defeats the purpose of eating the green beans. I disagree, saying that it's better to eat green beans with bacon, than not to eat the green beans at all.

I don't eat the strips of bacon once cooked, it just adds flavor to the green beans.

[JinDesu]

meat and potatoes are good...

but i also like brussels sprouts... good flavor for a vegetable

Needs a bit of care cooking though, overcooked tastes a lot worse than most overcooked veggies imo. But also I think it's a bit more expensive. I find broccoli/cauliflower/carrots to be the best balance in volume/density and price when trying to eat healthy for cheaper.

I will eat green beans, if they are cooked with onions and bacon. My wife protests, saying that adding bacon defeats the purpose of eating the green beans. I disagree, saying that it's better to eat green beans with bacon, than not to eat the green beans at all.

I don't eat the strips of bacon once cooked, it just adds flavor to the green beans.

Bacon gets such a bad rap when it's not so bad in moderation. It's decent in calories, fat, and protein, and just high in sodium - which isn't necessarily so bad either.