I forgot toention, I never raised the prices. I simply said we shouldn't trade anymore because of how you handled our transaction and that you keep being indecisive about things as well as you keep raising the same red flags from before. I sugesyed we do not go through with anything anymore since you shipped all the items before yoheven paid the amount yo were supposed to in n effort to force my hand and go through with the trade. You threatened to hit GH and to leave indefinitely which I did not want so I then decided to see if you would be fine to putting in the same amount I originally asked for which you tried k lower by begging because you didn't have enough money for the month. I simply asked you to add 15 dollars more which was what I originally asked you of in order to make me feel that you were putting in the extra effort to fix what happened as much as I. If I simply wanted cash, why would I bother with 15 dollars when I never even said anytjig negative to you when you left me with a $400cap I specifically hot for you and simply said that it was ok in order to avoid having to argue over it. The 15 dollars more that I ask to put it to the original price I asked you of was a principle thing more than profit or W/E u think it is.
I was never indecisive. In my point of view, you were the indecisive.
Your post is full of lies and I can't believe you would actually post your never ending lies in public as well.
You know full well I respected you as a trader until this very weird trade as of late.
This is the the full event in TRUTH:
SUMMARYI wanted my clack for his clack. He said he has 3 of these unnamed ones and he will be receiving it by mail. He sends me really bad blurry pictures of said clack that he will receive, which is obviously not enough to solidify any trade (especially for such an uncommon clack) I say, send me pics when you get it. He says OK.
I see the Clack, I don't like it, I apologize. He says:
Understandable. I will notify the other interested people then an if I do find colors u might like, I'll shoot you an offer. What colossus diff you want?
A week later, he contacts me again. This time another clack for my clack. I'm interested, and I say yes. He raises the price until it's all of my keycaps (clack, bros) plus cash.
Okay, a bit steep for me personally but I am down for it. It's honestly still a good trade for me. So we agree on the trade and also agree to ship the next day. I also asked for his Paypal but he would not send me his Paypal to complete trade. He says he has other packages to send out, and he'll send it out tomorrow.
Next morning is when it gets weird. He mentions since it is one of the earlier clacks, it can have flaws. So I thank him for letting me know and ask him if there's any big flaws. I had to send him maybe 10 separate messages for me to receive some OK pictures, evading my question if he can see any flaws. Well so I'm still down for this trade, but he suddenly tells me he got an OG tri offer, and he is reconsidering the trade. I'm just sitting dumbfounded because by now, I've packed everything and I'm already out by my post to send it out.
Pissed, I ask him in BOLD CAPPED letters, I need an answer, yes or no, is this trade happening or not? He sends me something like "did u pay for shipping yet", "I think you can still cancel".
I ask him again and again, just tell me YES or NO, do I send out my package. After waiting 40 minutes in my car at the post office, I send it out and let him know.
He filps out and basically asks me why did I do it, he was in class, blah blah blah. He clearly did not have respect for my time or efforts to send the item quickly as promised.
He says that by me asking about any flaws on the key cap, the trade suddenly became "incomplete", yet I sent my items.
I tell him that's the natural thing to do, esp. for a large trade like this. And I never said anything about cancelling the trade. I said I was OK with it.
I ask him why he would continue to discuss trades with 3-4 other traders after we had agreed on a trade last night. He evades again, telling me that I had backed out on a trade before, costing him "hundreds", when to my understanding, the key caps I was considering had already been traded for.
Threatens to post a thread, saying he's sure people will favor his side more, will contact mod, etc.
Okay fine, whatever, I just tell him I want my keycaps sent back. I can see that he never intended to send my item to me this day, and I just want out of this trade by now.
He offers me a blank to trade, etc etc that idc about, until he says he'll trade as originally agreed. BUT he wants $15 more, like he had originally suggested. I laugh and say OK.
He says he'll send it tomorrow.
He doesn't send it as promised again next day, his daughter's sick. OK.
Next day, I ask him for tracking. I ask again. And again. I see him clearly online and posting on GH.
Finally he shoots a PM like he's annoyed and he'll send it once he gets home.
Note that he sent me multiple PMs for his PP invoice. I did not get any shipping confirmation or PM or anything of the sort.
Past midnight I ask him again. He says he doesn't have it, will give it to me tomorrow.
By now my item's arrived to him, and I have yet to know if my item's even been sent out.
I finally get the tracking next morning and he's even cheaped out on the shipping option, and with the weekend, god only knows when it'll get here. I'm still waiting.
I'm thinking he maybe did this just to check my items out before he sent anything to me.
I'm not bothered by waiting, just that he kept on lying to me. I tell a bit of advise politely that he should not tell promises he knows he can't keep.
Flips out again, blah blah. Tells me do you know how much of a great deal he gave me, etc. Always emphasis on $$ value. Do you want to send everything back, blah blah.
I tell him to post a thread if he wants. I say I am aware, and I'm very thankful politely. I ask him how does he like my caps? he says he does enjoy them. That was the last bit of conversation.
This is what I've learned through trading with him:
- He's really shady about describing the key caps he's selling, you have to request like 4-5 pictures just to get an "OK" look at your item. If one doesn't ask, well, he won't show it.
- Threatening to post a thread about me and contacting a mod.
- Putting words in my mouth, trying to guilt trip the other trader into thinking that they did something wrong, for him to gain a bargaining power.
- Lying. Lying for everything he says, shipping time, raising agreed trade price (thus bullying the trader with less bargaining power), saying he'll give me tracking number but doesn't, the list is far too long. For every broken promise is an excuse (that's all fine and good, but it gets old when that's his excuse for everything). He'll tell you he's on mobile so he can't do X
This is obviously a huge wall of text. Sorry but it's the shortest I could make it.
In all honesty I'm not too bothered, it's just him accusing me of doing something wrong that's pissing me off.
You get the idea. If a trade is this complicated it's not really worth trading with him. Yet he accuses me of indecision.
By far the worst experience trading here in the forums.
