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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:16:29 »
Here is what I would go with for a workstation. You can get Windows 8.1 keys for around $25 if you buy from G2A.com.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY Quadro NVS 450 512MB Video Card  ($257.48 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN289H 60Hz 28.0" Monitor   
Monitor: Asus VN289H 60Hz 28.0" Monitor  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $879.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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why in gods name would he need a quadro video card in a pc used for looking at text documents...

It's not a render card, it's designed for multiple monitors. If she only ends up using two, then you can step it down.

Don't most motherboards these days support multiple monitors by default? I have a crappy integrated Intel HD4000 on the machine I'm using right now at work and I run two 22 inch monitors at 1680x1050. I can use my laptop screen as my third at 1920x1080 if I want as well. I don't have any trouble. I'm not saying a stand alone card doesn't have it's benefits, but I don't think it warrants an additional cost of $250 for the purposes that were described. I'm a pretty frugal individual though, so maybe that is just me.

The ASRock H97M, which Absyrd has quoted, has a DVI, VGA and HDMI connectors available. Surely those three would be enough. Again, I'm not saying that this is ideal for everyone, but this isn't something you are going to notice while preforming spell check and preforming routing office work.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:18:42 »
Yes I agree - most motherboards support 2 monitors, though I guess I've never heard of one being able to support a third. I also don't know that she is only doing word processing - if she is, then I'd recommend another setup entirely.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:25:58 »
Yes I agree - most motherboards support 2 monitors, though I guess I've never heard of one being able to support a third. I also don't know that she is only doing word processing - if she is, then I'd recommend another setup entirely.

At home I have an Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 which supports 2 HDMI connections and 1 Display port. I have 2 monitors hooked up now, but I'm redoing the office in the near future and planning on getting a third, where the two on the outside are horizontal and the one in the middle is vertical. I don't game at all, unless solitaire counts, but I work from home on occasion and often times have connections open to 2 or 3 different servers at once. The multiple screens helps me keep organized.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:50:23 »
It is 1/4th of the budget thrown out the window to load up a word document on two monitors

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:52:31 »
Yes I agree - most motherboards support 2 monitors, though I guess I've never heard of one being able to support a third. I also don't know that she is only doing word processing - if she is, then I'd recommend another setup entirely.

perhaps read about what the computer build is for before suggesting parts for it..

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 13:55:13 »
I did read it. I saw this:

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She is an appraiser and just does tons of work on a bunch of info

I wasn't sure if this was just word documents. Sorry for trying to help. :-[
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:11:51 »
I did read it. I saw this:

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She is an appraiser and just does tons of work on a bunch of info

I wasn't sure if this was just word documents. Sorry for trying to help. :-[

She is an appraiser and just does tons of work on a bunch of info sources and documents everywhere. She doesn't need fancy monitors, just functional and large.

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:48:08 »
4790K

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THIS is the Minimum..................

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:52:55 »
4790K

Z97 mobo

16Gb 2400mhz Memory

@4.8 Ghz Cpu Overclock...

THIS is the Minimum..................

OT, but...

Would you recommend that for a general purpose build today, over say a i7 5820K with an X99 mobo?
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:59:52 »
Depends on your needs. X99 is unnecessary unless you are doing large scale renders or running four flagship cards in SLI/Crossfire.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 15:01:31 »
Depends on your needs. X99 is unnecessary unless you are doing large scale renders or running four flagship cards in SLI/Crossfire.

Now I know I need 4x Titan X...
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 15:25:00 »
Depends on your needs. X99 is unnecessary unless you are doing large scale renders or running four flagship cards in SLI/Crossfire.

Now I know I need 4x Titan X...

definitely

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 15:43:54 »
Now I know I need 4x Titan X...

DO IT
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 17:53:05 »
Depends on your needs. X99 is unnecessary unless you are doing large scale renders or running four flagship cards in SLI/Crossfire.

Now I know I need 4x Titan X...

definitely

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 20:06:44 »
Bare minimum to run Word correctly:


wut. i'd buy a ****ty IBM board for that green V2

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 20:10:41 »
Nope you need this.  :))

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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 21:46:20 »
Nope you need this.  :))

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:27:30 »
Gah, all this talk of fancy video cards is getting ridiculous.

A $30 AMD6450 has three outputs (DVI, HDMI, VGA) and I just looked up a couple of Asus motherboards that have four outputs (HDMI, DVI, VGA, DisplayPort) and can support three simultaneous monitors.

Why are people seriously suggesting $200+ video cards, or Quadros? Quadros are used for CAD acceleration or fancy graphics editing, not for looking at documents.

Even if the user ends up moving to 4+ monitors later (and probably less than 5% of all office workers have this outside of banking or more specialised environments), she can get a graphics card later. At the moment it sounds like she only wants two monitors.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 08:10:09 »
Gah, all this talk of fancy video cards is getting ridiculous.

A $30 AMD6450 has three outputs (DVI, HDMI, VGA) and I just looked up a couple of Asus motherboards that have four outputs (HDMI, DVI, VGA, DisplayPort) and can support three simultaneous monitors.

Why are people seriously suggesting $200+ video cards, or Quadros? Quadros are used for CAD acceleration or fancy graphics editing, not for looking at documents.

Even if the user ends up moving to 4+ monitors later (and probably less than 5% of all office workers have this outside of banking or more specialised environments), she can get a graphics card later. At the moment it sounds like she only wants two monitors.


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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 09:56:45 »
I would just go with a little above midrange. You're friend saves money and the system should last a couple of years.

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 10:40:49 »
LOL. Some of you guys are super funny.
For a build like this I would agree, the onboard Intel igp would be just fine. Just pick a motherboard that has appropriate video connection options available. Such as 2x DP or a DP and an HDMI. VGA dsub should be avoided to use if at all possible. Now... not all Intel igp are created equal. Some of the lower end ones, like what is still being used on the Pentiums have some more limitations... like nothing over 1080p except display port... and can't run 2 different resolutions due to only having one clockgen. Be careful there, or you may end up needing to get a lower end discrete card anyway. Quadro NVS... that line was exclusively for 2D multi monitor set ups. It's far too weak a GPU to be used for anything intensive. Those are a terrible waste of money, when you can buy some low end geforce that is far cheaper and many times more powerful.
As far as the CPU goes, an i5 is overkill. Unless you wanted to run multiple 1440p/4K displays forcing you into a model with the Iris Pro igp as you may still end up cheaper than a cpu+discrete gpu. Otherwise if we are staying in 1080p land, a Pentium cpu would probably be just fine. They are plenty powerful enough for document work, internet, etc light use and you can save a lot of money buying a Pentium. For someone doing a lot of multitasking with many open documents I do agree having 8GB of memory is a good plan. That kind of stuff chews up ram much more than it uses the CPU. For the motherboard the GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H is a very nice bang for the buck... and it's size is nice. While technically being a matx board, it is still small enough to shoehorn into a nice small minimalist case such as the Lian Li PCQ01. If you want to stick to one drive only, perhaps the WD BlackČ is a good choice, you get 1TB w 120GB nand, or otherwise a lot of storage with ssd like performance for a cheap price comparatively. A good quality brand 300-400w PSU with 80+gold takes care of the power needs. That should still leave you with $500ish to put towards displays, such as some nice quality IPS/PLS or *VA displays... or just go big and get something like  EA294WMi-BK 29" ultrawide. Ultrawide may be a nice option as you eliminate all the fuss with multi display while giving a similar type of workspace.

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 00:34:56 »
Reddit is much more helpful for computer builds. See the subreddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc

Look at the sidebar for tips too.

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #72 on: Sat, 25 July 2015, 23:30:52 »
Doesn't want to bother with multiple drives; scares her.

Not having multiple drives scares me.

Convince her to have a huge data drive separate and safe from her OS dirve.

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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 25 July 2015, 23:57:35 »
LOL. Some of you guys are super funny.
For a build like this I would agree, the onboard Intel igp would be just fine. Just pick a motherboard that has appropriate video connection options available. Such as 2x DP or a DP and an HDMI. VGA dsub should be avoided to use if at all possible. Now... not all Intel igp are created equal. Some of the lower end ones, like what is still being used on the Pentiums have some more limitations... like nothing over 1080p except display port... and can't run 2 different resolutions due to only having one clockgen. Be careful there, or you may end up needing to get a lower end discrete card anyway. Quadro NVS... that line was exclusively for 2D multi monitor set ups. It's far too weak a GPU to be used for anything intensive. Those are a terrible waste of money, when you can buy some low end geforce that is far cheaper and many times more powerful.
As far as the CPU goes, an i5 is overkill. Unless you wanted to run multiple 1440p/4K displays forcing you into a model with the Iris Pro igp as you may still end up cheaper than a cpu+discrete gpu. Otherwise if we are staying in 1080p land, a Pentium cpu would probably be just fine. They are plenty powerful enough for document work, internet, etc light use and you can save a lot of money buying a Pentium. For someone doing a lot of multitasking with many open documents I do agree having 8GB of memory is a good plan. That kind of stuff chews up ram much more than it uses the CPU. For the motherboard the GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H is a very nice bang for the buck... and it's size is nice. While technically being a matx board, it is still small enough to shoehorn into a nice small minimalist case such as the Lian Li PCQ01. If you want to stick to one drive only, perhaps the WD BlackČ is a good choice, you get 1TB w 120GB nand, or otherwise a lot of storage with ssd like performance for a cheap price comparatively. A good quality brand 300-400w PSU with 80+gold takes care of the power needs. That should still leave you with $500ish to put towards displays, such as some nice quality IPS/PLS or *VA displays... or just go big and get something like  EA294WMi-BK 29" ultrawide. Ultrawide may be a nice option as you eliminate all the fuss with multi display while giving a similar type of workspace.

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Honestly the G3258 Anniversary Unlocked Dual Core 3.2GHZ  is more then enough. Get a R7 250X for about $100 and be done with it (3 monitors down the road if need). Pick up a 350W Power Supply and 8GB of Ram. Spend the $$$ on the screens. she would love 2x LG 23MP47HQ-P.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Work PC Build For Friend
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 28 July 2015, 19:06:40 »
SSD is essential 500GB is enough for docs etc.