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The USA Presidential Election
« on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:08:08 »
I'm interested to hear how other Geekhackers feel about the different candidates and the primary season so far, mostly because I know you folks for reasons totally unrelated to politics, so I figured the range of opinions could be pretty broad!
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:16:10 »
GO BERNIE

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:16:31 »
All I can say right now is that I'm really looking forward to the craziness the first Republican primary debate is bound to bring.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:16:40 »
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:17:49 »
im not from the land of capitalism but bernie sounds aight
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:19:20 »
GO BERNIE
I like how his campaign is not so much about him getting elected, but more of starting some sort of political revolution.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 16:27:52 »
Bernie is who I'd vote for. If I could vote, that is.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:01:39 »
Bernie all the way.

I would be even more excited for Elizabeth Warren, but Bernie is far more electable.

Hillary Clinton is a very undesirable candidate, she carries a huge amount of baggage, is pro-Wall-Street, pro-Israel, and is a divider, not a uniter.

But at this point, I have no choice but to be a yellow dog Democrat across the board, there is simply too much at stake to vote otherwise.
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The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:12:18 »
... Vote? 

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:29:42 »
Bernie all the way.  Ron Paul and son are just too crazy even though I have some libertarian leanings.  Hillary is a corporate shill and changes her political beliefs to fit the political climate and what her corporate sponsors want.  Not to mention that I can't trust someone as POTUS who has shown total incompetency through things like using unsecured free mail services for email while Sec State.

The Republicans are even worse...at least the ones running for president.  We no longer have Republicans who understand that regulation are a good things, that war and the military industrial complex are a bad thing, and that it's okay to be different and work on reforms to the civic system that respect people and the Constitution while still respecting people's beliefs (such as marriage reform, education funding and reform, immigration reform, drug law reform, and prison reform).  We have a party that seems to get off on saying **** the government, **** the poor, and **** brown people, the 'Murican Dream is still alive as long as you're born a straight, white, upper-class male.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:50:38 »
People clearing < than $500,000..   It doesn't matter who wins.

People who clear > than $500,000...  Republican, always republican.


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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:57:35 »
People clearing < than $500,000..   It doesn't matter who wins.

TP I am extremely disappointed.

It matters the most to the folks at the bottom of the food chain, and least to folks at the top.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:02:41 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:06:18 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:12:22 »
People clearing < than $500,000..   It doesn't matter who wins.

TP I am extremely disappointed.

It matters the most to the folks at the bottom of the food chain, and least to folks at the top.



I wish it really did matter..  But it simply does not..  The policies instilled by big government is designed to FARM people,  not help them..


For example..  The easiest thing to increase the welfare of the entire nation is education.. 


It's incredibly cheap,  fast acting, and can accelerate family income by several generations..


YET,  what happens..  policies farm the low end of the spectrum for military service, directly maintaining a poverty level to fill all the nasty occupations,  JUST to maintain the status quo for the nouveau riche...


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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:14:14 »
I'm just here for the republican racism.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:16:12 »

I'm just here for official donald trump twitter.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:20:36 »
I'm just here for the republican racism.



Also, the most offensive political bumper sticker I've seen (NSFW, probably):

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I'm just here for official donald trump twitter.
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It's sad, because he's so close to looking like a likable Nazi.


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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:23:48 »

I wish it really did matter..  But it simply does not.


Consider a war.

It is started by politicians, managed by generals, and fought by the soldiers on the ground.

To whom, in your opinion, does that war "matter" the most to, and to whom the least?


@jdcarpe - change can easily occur with a progressive government - Theodore Roosevelt (the last "original" Republican) did it.

But yes, defeatist attitudes will defeat us.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:34:27 »
I'm just here for the republican racism.

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Also, the most offensive political bumper sticker I've seen (NSFW, probably):

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I'm just here for official donald trump twitter.
ftfy?

It's sad, because he's so close to looking like a likable Nazi.

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Is that bumper sticker from the **** hole that is Orange County?
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:41:03 »
No, I think it's from the South.  I haven't seen anything that blatantly offensive here yet.  You just hear people saying it instead.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:51:45 »
Oh. Makes sense. OC is more closet racist than the sister ****ing south.
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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:52:47 »
Oh. Makes sense. OC is more closet racist than the sister ****ing south.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:55:40 »
You know who I'm talking about
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 20:28:48 »
My grandparents think the democrats are the true root of evil and they pay and rig elections in their favour, because they are evil. And that republicans are the unsung hero's. And they think obama is evil. And maybe a muslim.



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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 21:23:36 »
My grandparents think the democrats are the true root of evil and they pay and rig elections in their favour, because they are evil. And that republicans are the unsung hero's. And they think obama is evil. And maybe a muslim.



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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:12:44 »
My grandparents think the democrats are the true root of evil and they pay and rig elections in their favour, because they are evil. And that republicans are the unsung hero's. And they think obama is evil. And maybe a muslim.



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Which is ironic given that they're probably using two of the biggest drains on the government that Democrats stand by and Republicans keep trying to cut, Social Security and Medicare.  Of course, they paid into it and everyone else is so lazy and doesn't deserve any kind of help and socialism is literally the work of Satan.

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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:16:15 »
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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:18:10 »

I would be even more excited for Elizabeth Warren, but Bernie is far more electable.


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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:20:48 »
Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws.

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 23:29:18 »
Relevant.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 03:51:42 »
People clearing < than $500,000..   It doesn't matter who wins.

People who clear > than $500,000...  Republican, always republican.


That's all you need to know.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 11:59:52 »
The presidential race is a joke now.  It's just a media event.  They trot out these egomaniacs, hold a few debates to make it look like they are discussing actual issues, and then half the voting population (because the other half doesn't vote) elect some puppet of the party that ultimately will do whatever the monied interests tell them to do, or what will increase their popularity.  I'm done with presidential politics, I don't even care anymore.

Bernie is a different guy, but a little too socialistic for me, although I like him more than Robot Hillary.  I appreciate some business sense, because taking the risk to start a business is an important part of any economy.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 12:05:24 »
The presidential race is a joke now.  It's just a media event.  They trot out these egomaniacs, hold a few debates to make it look like they are discussing actual issues, and then half the voting population (because the other half doesn't vote) elect some puppet of the party that ultimately will do whatever the monied interests tell them to do, or what will increase their popularity.  I'm done with presidential politics, I don't even care anymore.

Bernie is a different guy, but a little too socialistic for me, although I like him more than Robot Hillary.  I appreciate some business sense, because taking the risk to start a business is an important part of any economy.

There's my rant, I'm out, see you all in November 2016.


Mmmmhmm...

That's the gist of large corporations..

Really ask yourself   WHAT IS political-efficacy..  MONEY.....

Who has MONEY ?


You guys see the pattern?  it doesn't matter who you vote for..



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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 12:14:24 »
It does matter who you vote for. But as for the people you are voting for, you have very little choice. The people with the most backers, the most money in their campaign, will ultimately win the nomination from their party.

There aren't going to be a lot of people putting money into Hillary's campaign, so you won't even get a chance to vote for her...

And as for doing what their lobbyists want, its the getting bills past congress which is the hard part.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 15:42:52 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.
I would say that is the best case scenario. Sarah Palin or Donald Trump or someone else who is close on the crazy scale would be far worse.

It has usually been groups that want to be future administrations that have chosen their presidential candidate... and those people are usually level-headed. Evil, for sure, each personifying the "great satan" that the US has been accused of being, but still level-headed.
However, the president is in his/her power to oust that group completely once he/she has been elected... and if the group has chosen poorly and unable to control their figurehead, then USA could break up much earlier than predicted.
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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:25:26 »
Which is why fundraising is so important for potential candidates. The person running for president must prove to the powers that be that he/she is worthy of office, by raising millions of dollars. It also secures the candidate in the pockets of his/her financial backers for the immediate future.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 17:04:26 »
It also secures the candidate in the pockets of his/her financial backers for the immediate future.

I feel hopeful that the citizens of the US are starting to see that a president not beholden to moneyed overlords, such as Barak Obama and Jimmy Carter, the only 2 genuinely good and honorable men that I have had the opportunity to vote for in my lifetime, is the type of leader who could lead us out of the tragic miasma we find ourselves in today.

And nothing short of a Constitutional Amendment overturning "Citizens United" can undo the harm that has been ensconced in recent decades.
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 14:50:05 »
Haha.. Barack Obama "honourable"... He is just as much in the pockets of his backers as most presidents before him.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 14:54:20 »
a president not beholden to moneyed overlords, such as Barak Obama

I had to double take.  What makes him "not beholden to moneyed overlords"?  I must have missed something.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 16:15:00 »
I, too, am furiously angry at Obama's inability to rein in the financial giants, but I do believe that he would if he could.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:04:17 »
I, too, am furiously angry at Obama's inability to rein in the financial giants, but I do believe that he would if he could.


That 's the same as saying.. Yea,  Everyone knows the right thing they aught to be doing..  But faced with the allure of the cupcake..  all sane decisions go out the window.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:12:13 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 18:21:53 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

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which is why i don't vote

PLEASE VOTE !

A vote not cast is a very real vote FOR the Republican status quo and worse.

Whose vision of the future do you prefer?

People who do not vote are the ones who enable the Evil Ones to maintain control !

Why doesn't EVERYONE recognize this?
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:16:33 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

qft

which is why i don't vote

Haven't you heard? All the people who don't vote are voting Bernie.
demik will never leave.

Unless he gets banned.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 22:53:41 »
TIL all Republicans and southerners are racist, no matter what they believe; and anyone who doesn't agree with Nubs is "crazy".  Yay.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 23:26:50 »
TIL all Republicans and southerners are racist, no matter what they believe; and anyone who doesn't agree with Nubs is "crazy".  Yay.

Because that's totally what I said....