In hopes of diversifying Geekhack

[Photekq]

Timezones is a big practical reason to look for non-US mods, yes. And I also think that diversity is valuable as I said above, so speaking for myself yes I do think it's helpful to seek out women and people of color. We don't have anything formal in place to ensure diversity, but it's something we've thought about and discussed when reviewing mod applications and deciding who we like and who brings what to the table. The white/straight/male majority has no issues expressing itself or being represented in leadership due to sheer numbers. Sometimes that majority can be ****ty as **** and the fact that we have (relatively) diverse leadership is valuable in determining what's ok to let slide and what isn't.

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

[demik]

does anybody want to beat up apple?

i'll sell his address to the lowest bidder

[HoffmanMyster]

Timezones is a big practical reason to look for non-US mods, yes. And I also think that diversity is valuable as I said above, so speaking for myself yes I do think it's helpful to seek out women and people of color. We don't have anything formal in place to ensure diversity, but it's something we've thought about and discussed when reviewing mod applications and deciding who we like and who brings what to the table. The white/straight/male majority has no issues expressing itself or being represented in leadership due to sheer numbers. Sometimes that majority can be ****ty as **** and the fact that we have (relatively) diverse leadership is valuable in determining what's ok to let slide and what isn't.

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

My 2 cents on the matter.

I've never considered these things personally when looking at mod applicants.  If someone comes from a unique background and it is relevant to their responses to the questions it may be considered for that reason, but I'm not personally concerned with these things myself.

That said, it can become useful when these sorts of issues do pop up on the forum.  If all members of the mod team come from a position of "privilege", they may look at a situation and see nothing wrong or not imagine the potential offense, etc.  Having someone that sees those particular issues from a different angle could be beneficial there, to shed some light on why it matters. 

[hashbaz]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

[iri]

I nominate MOZ for a global mod -- he will represent both Asia and Africa.

[demik]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

[demik]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

you calling apple a baby?

you ageist asshat

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

you calling apple a baby?

you ageist asshat

babies aren't the only people in need of supervision

way to jump to conclusions

[demik]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

you calling apple a baby?

you ageist asshat

babies aren't the only people in need of supervision

way to jump to conclusions

it's in the name :|

[HoffmanMyster]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

you calling apple a baby?

you ageist asshat

babies aren't the only people in need of supervision

way to jump to conclusions

it's in the name :|

It's true, no adults have ever been kidnapped.

[demik]

Thanks for your response. You haven't quite satiated my curiosity though, and I'm hoping that you might be able to go into more detail. This really is only for my curiosity's sake though, so I'd understand if you'd rather not.

Specifically: I still wonder what kind of situations arise on this forum where having people of different backgrounds is beneficial. Could you give any examples?

Specific examples? The recent hubub about misogyny, or race issues when people like e.g., Krogenar was active a few years ago and making what a lot of people felt were very problematic statements. Homophobic posts from people like iri, for another example. When deciding what to do in these situations, it helps to have a broad variety of opinion and experience, ideally from a member of the demographic in question.

can i be mod of apple? since we're the only mexicans i'd be the leading authority of his **** posting and will control him. but just him.

in other words a babysitter

you calling apple a baby?

you ageist asshat

babies aren't the only people in need of supervision

way to jump to conclusions

it's in the name :|

It's true, no adults have ever been kidnapped.

you get it. and do you know why? because we dont have time to nap. too busy working

[romevi]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

[appleonama]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

yes

[romevi]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

yes

De veras?

[appleonama]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

yes

De veras?

si

[demik]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

yes

De veras?

si, no esta chingando apple

[romevi]

Am I supposed to take this serious thread seriously?

yes

De veras?

si, no esta chingando apple

Bueno...

[appleonama]

well this was fun

thank you to everyone who contributed

hoffman pm'd me regard the issue and I believe he will be choosing a hispanic mod in the next few days.

[Air tree]

Being super srs, I have to agree with hashbaz on this issue, I feel like there are situations where a more diverse group of people to moderate is a good thing. It gives a further grasp on certain situations that one person might have not really experienced, or can fully understand the implications of, and can lead to an overall better moderation system.

I'm sure there a plenty of people on the internet that would call be an 'SJW' for saying something like that, though.



But fo realz, I vote in favour of instating demik as a moderator. I fully trust him to do the job of moderating apple.  )

[tp4tissue]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

[nathanrosspowell]

Wow! Really Hoff? I expected more from you. This is like saying "Do we need racial diversity?", I am appalled by your statement. I believe Geekhack should have a seminar on racial diversity so all moderator of geekhack are more conscious about other race and cultures. I believe demik has the potential to teach you guys about racial equality.

Amen brother! Your righteousness is truly reminiscent of this other A* post!!!

A lot of us would really appreciate it if you take this time to mature and think about how blatantly racist jokes can effect other members of our multi-cultural community.

If you think that it's an inconvenience to be banned from slack and that singing Disney songs is the right way to make amends... then I don't think you understand the real hardships that the targets of your joke went through and the pain that their descendants feel to this day. Hint: it's some of the worst **** that has ever happened to human beings.

Really unsure of why you quoted me from another thread with no context. Cheers tho.

[chuckdee]

I don't disagree with anything you've said.  But inclusiveness?  Quotas?  That's combating the symptom, not the problem.  And when you bring up that point- most dismiss you as part of the problem.  I've seen the negative effects of trying to solve the problem by addressing the symptoms.  The underlying problem just gets worse.

Nobody mentioned quotas. Asking "why is there no hispanic mod?" says nothing about quotas.

I'm talking about the situation in general.  Apparently, I was the only one who didn't get the memo that this was not supposed to be serious.  I mean, if you put serious in it, then some are going to assume that you mean it.  Words to mean things.  But you invited to have a real talk, and since this topic is one that I'd like to discuss in a rational manner, I tried to redirect to the topic of 'diversification' rather than anything to do with the OP.

But, why are there no hispanic mods, is just as racist as the other way around IMO, if not backed up with qualifications.  A better question to pose, IMO, is "I think X is a great choice for a mod because (list the reasons).  Also, she's X so it helps with the content of the moderation team."  "Why is there no hispanic mod?" speaks directly to quotas- that there should be one just because.  Then, as someone else points, out, you open the way to why are there no black, asian, indian, etc mods.  So for me the answer to such questions is, "there haven't been any applicants that satisfied the requirements that were of that specific ethnic group.  If anyone appeared that satisfied our objective criteria (and go into them if possible), then they would surely be on the short list for a position.  Do you have any suggestions that would fit that criteria and that demographic?"

Removing obstacles and exclusions for qualified applications.  Not including just because of some demographic.  That's where token came from, i.e. done for the sake of appearances or as a symbolic gesture.  Is it just gestures we're after?  Or a real discussion and solution?  Because with just a token in place, the conversation turns to "X was put in the position because she's Y", which overshadows the good work and the qualifications they might have.

[Halverson]

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[romevi]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

[beehatch]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

just like the females, they have to hide because gh can't handle it

[tjcaustin]

#anyonebutdemik

[tp4tissue]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

[tp4tissue]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

Wha... Tp, did you just quote yourself... seriously ?

[tp4tissue]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

Wha... Tp, did you just quote yourself... seriously ?

Kahh... Yea I did so What ?

[tp4tissue]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

Wha... Tp, did you just quote yourself... seriously ?

Kahh... Yea I did so What ?

S'ok calm down,  just checking..

[hashbaz]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

Case in point re: Photek's question earlier.

[demik]

i remember when this thread was a joke thread

[Waateva]

i remember when this thread was a joke thread

Was it hehe funny or haha funny?

[hashbaz]

RIP diversity joke thread. You were taken too soon.

[demik]

i remember when this thread was a joke thread

Was it hehe funny or haha funny?

ayy lmao funny.

now it's, i hate people funny

[Photekq]

Thanks for your words hashbaz and Hoff. It helps a lot.

Really unsure of why you quoted me from another thread with no context. Cheers tho.

Amen brother! Your righteousness is truly reminiscent of this other A* post!!!

I did say why! Keep up the good work bub!

[demik]

[rowdy]

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lewd

Due to the lack of Hispanic representation on Geekhack I believe we should nominate Demik for moderator.

It's demik not Demik.

At least he got the poster right.

I am going to edit the poster to displease everyone

Change it to Comic Sans while you're at it!

[Waateva]

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lewd

Due to the lack of Hispanic representation on Geekhack I believe we should nominate Demik for moderator.

It's demik not Demik.

At least he got the poster right.

I am going to edit the poster to displease everyone

Change it to Comic Sans while you're at it!

Maybe throw some Wingdings in there too.

[mobbo]

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lewd

Due to the lack of Hispanic representation on Geekhack I believe we should nominate Demik for moderator.

It's demik not Demik.

At least he got the poster right.

I am going to edit the poster to displease everyone

Change it to Comic Sans while you're at it!

Maybe throw some Wingdings in there too.

3D Word Art

[appleonama]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

just like the females, they have to hide because gh can't handle it

pinche bruja

[demik]

What about a female mod... ??

Only one rule.. must post NEW smexy foto at least once a week..

Show Image

Soooooo.............. Like....  any candidates ?

Wha... Tp, did you just quote yourself... seriously ?

Kahh... Yea I did so What ?

S'ok calm down,  just checking..

ruh roh, the robot is in a loop O.O

[tp4tissue]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

just like the females, they have to hide because gh can't handle it

pinche bruja

Quick, someone hide beehatch, no one must know..

[iri]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

Go see tauburn then.

[SpAmRaY]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

Go see tauburn then.

Now there is a name I haven't seen in a long time.

[iri]

Also, I think diversifying Geekhack with mods who aren't ****ed in the head is a great idea. Regardless of their race.

[trenzafeeds]

this thread is a ****ing gold mine, holy ****
definitely a new high in geekhack ****posting
you've outdone yourself apple

[demik]

Also, I think diversifying Geekhack with mods who aren't ****ed in the head is a great idea. Regardless of their race.

As a ****head.. I feel oppressed.

But that seems to be GH's current theme. Oppression.

[appleonama]

I don't think I've seen a black geekhacker, now that you bring it up.

good point hmmm

geekhack is so narrow minded please get some black users in here.