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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #350 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:17:13 »
I still go through the startup and process lists and disable everything I think is wasting resources with no real payoff, even if there's really no major practical need due to excessively capable hardware. I even wish I had more time/motivation to still go through and strip all of the useless trash out of Windows entirely like I used to with XP.
I stopped doing that about the time Win8 came out, the resource savings and speed increases were no longer worth bothering. I did however limit apps at startup by using Winpatrol but that was also due to privacy and security reasons.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #351 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 00:40:16 »
I installed Win10 Education. Got it for free from my school, and had a spare laptop lying around. It's not bad. I see a lot of bloat has been removed, but I think the Office Suite was preinstalled. Not sure whether I should be glad.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #352 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 00:50:05 »
Most Office hatred stems from the price, the programs themselves are pretty solid.

Other than Outlook,
Outlook needs to die in the fiery pits of hell alongside those who designed it. Seriously, straight to hell.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #353 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 06:00:55 »
Win10 has been really stable for me. I love Linux, but I havenít really loved any of the DEs for them. WSL2 has been the perfect option for me. I can use my Affinity Designer natively when not coding and then drop into my Ubuntu install in the terminal with zsh, run s3cmd, handle all my node stuff, vim, docker, ssh into my server, and other command line things through windows terminal and my Ubuntu distro. The privacy aspect isnít great; however, most things I wouldnít want to advertise are public records anyway (address, voting record, etc).

In short, Win10 has been a good experience for me on the desktop and WSL2 gives me access to the phenomenal terminal of a Linux install.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #354 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 06:55:15 »
In short, Win10 has been a good experience for me on the desktop and WSL2 gives me access to the phenomenal terminal of a Linux install.

WSL has made a lot of things easier. We don't allow dual-boot where I work on security grounds, so rather than making researchers choose between a managed Ubuntu or managed Windows 10 environment, we just let them use WSL.
     
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #355 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 17:43:56 »
It really is infuriating that you cannot turn updates off at all but MS keeps releasing forced updates that break my system.

Especially infuriating that the postponing updates setting is really more of a suggestion because if there's a "required update" it will override that setting and install the update regardless.

Every single week. Literally every week, I wind up spending 40mins to an hour fixing something that an update I never wanted broke in my environment. Never EVER had this issue with Win7, now it is a weekly thing that I am sure drives my blood pressure up every time I turn on my workstation only to discover it installed and reset in the middle of the night.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #356 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 18:06:01 »
What kind of stuff do you find broken? Iíve not had anything break in an update on either my home PC or work PC (which is set up for early access updates) so it always seems somewhat circumstantial when I hear about updates breaking stuff.

People at work hate it, of course, because researchers like to be silly and run their intensive fluid dynamics simulations on their £30k workstations which are managed and therefore have updates every two weeks (we tell them when these will be) as opposed to our HPC.
     
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #357 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 18:45:22 »
What kind of stuff do you find broken? Iíve not had anything break in an update on either my home PC or work PC (which is set up for early access updates) so it always seems somewhat circumstantial when I hear about updates breaking stuff.

People at work hate it, of course, because researchers like to be silly and run their intensive fluid dynamics simulations on their £30k workstations which are managed and therefore have updates every two weeks (we tell them when these will be) as opposed to our HPC.

A lot of it has to do with security permissions, constant sound issues, reformatting my files without permission, resetting right when I'm in the middle of working on something, Win10 intensively using hardware resources as it idles in the background doing literally nothing etc.

It's different nearly every week.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #358 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 21:47:40 »
I hate the pointless re-arranging.
I deal a lot with networking and the right click function on the network icon near the clock has changed multiple times, you never know where it leads. Can I right click on start and get to device manager... Not this version but you can get to the old control panel that way, but not the computer sitting right next to it. 

Pure madness.


Same when it comes to adding features,
I had one recently where the system was crashing, figuring it was a bad update first thing I told them to do was set delayed updates. That didn't exist, the system hadn't been updated in a while and it was that lack of updates causing the problem, the app needed some new included file. I have no issue with MS adding features, the problem is there's no easy way to track them.
 
Before you had service packs which easily identified what stage of updates the OS was at, now you have some random internal code, like right now the latest major update is 2004. They couldn't pick something more user friendly than something that looks like a date from years gone by? And where do you find this? Oh, it's buried. Gee thanks. Buried also means people making tutorials on fixing problems won't mention it and that creates a whole new set of issues.

How bad do you think all of the tutorials will be in 2 years, or even 4 or 6 years from now?
"Just click on control panel"
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