How do people with jobs find time to go to the gym?

[Kavik]

I have figured out a routine that works for me: Exercising vigorously in my bedroom after work at around midnight for 30mins before I jump in the shower. 30 mins, 6x a week.

I have crunched the time numbers, and have so many times over the last 2 weeks made good intentions to go to the gym instead of working out at home. But it simply is too much hassle. If I were to go to the gym it would turn my convenient 30 minute workout into a drawn out 80min+ pain in the ass to get ready and get to/from the gym.

It just doesn't ****ing work. There is simply no time for me to go. If I had equipment at home it would be 100% doable.

Home gym equipment can be found for relatively solid pricing on Facebook marketplace or OfferUp

I was going to suggest Titan Fitness because it used to be insanely cheap (if one didn't care about some minor hand-fitting or RMAing certain pieces), but I just checked the website, and everything is approaching Rogue prices. I got my power rack shipped to my house for $306.10 in 2018.

[mohawk1367]

I have both gains and normal lunches.

I'm surrounded by teen-20 something year old kids who eat 3500-4k calories a day talking about how they are losing weight.
Meanwhile I have a cup of coffee and a stick of jerky all day, and gain 5lbs.

Life is a ****ing scam.

the last month or so my appetite has been really reduced for some reason and I've lost 7 lbs so far. dunno how or why but hopefully im finally getting that teenage boy metabolism i was always promised

[iri]

I hope it isn't drugs

[mohawk1367]

I hope it isn't drugs

Oh yaeh forgot to mention ive gotten into meth lately

[pelfox]

walking my dog has become my favorite alternative to the gym. it's a peaceful way to stay active while enjoying the outdoors plus, the companionship. it's a simple yet effective way to incorporate exercise into my routine without the pressure of a formal workout and I just lift in my garage (work night shifts)

[TomahawkLabs]

I am in week 3 or 4 of early morning workouts. It is the only way I can fit it into my life comfortably. I wake up at 5 and spend about 50-60 minutes on the treadmill. My day is easier to ease into and my pants fit a bit better. The only downside is my bedtime is now 9:30-10PM instead of 11.

I am the type of person who once they are home after work will only leave if forced (kid's activity, etc). I just can't bring myself to work out after the work day.

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 has wrestled with this question for years.

Should hughmans wurkout eryday?

[noisyturtle]

I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.

[tp4tissue]

I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.

Our expectations for NT are now Medium-High.

[iamtootallforthis]

I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.

That's a great start!

[noisyturtle]

It sucks when you spend more time getting ready and traveling to the gym than actually working out, but honestly, getting there is half the battle for many people

[iamtootallforthis]

It sucks when you spend more time getting ready and traveling to the gym than actually working out, but honestly, getting there is half the battle for many people

Yeah that's definitely not ideal but getting there is a big hurdle for sure

[iri]

I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.

That's pretty good actually.

[noisyturtle]

I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.

Just wrapped up my 5th week on the Once In 3 Noisyturtle Patented System. Technically, I'm pretty sure this was actually the 6th week and I forgot to count the first one. Probably gonna extend this to 8 weeks, then we'll see.
Although I haven't really lost any weight, my workout time has extended from 25-35 minutes until I'm tired, to around an hour. So there has been marked improvement.

[tp4tissue]

Veggies is the key to super human endurance.

Meat makes humans weak, + the cancer and climate devastation..

[noisyturtle]

Update at the closing of Week 6: My endurance is basically doubled. Where I used to get tired around 20-30 mins in, now I can go for a full hour and still be able to do more.
Definite gains in the arms and chest, arms especially look noticeably larger and more toned. Upped the amount I was benching and curling by half, so now doing reps of 30lbs curling and 90lbs bench press. I go for reps until fatigue, not maxing out weight.
Added treadmill, which I used to hate.

Thing is; I have not lost ANY weight at all. Still eating healthy, if anything, even less calories daily. But my weight has not budged an inch in about a month. Frustrating.

Gonna keep pushing to 2 months/8 weeks, then see how I feel about continuing as a lifestyle change.
All in all, this was a successful experiment. To see if someone who never stuck to any workout routine their entire life and actively hates the gym and exercise, could do their mental minimum and still get results.

If I can do it, you can do it too.

[Findecanor]

That's awesome!

BTW. Muscles weigh more than the same volume of fat.

[tp4tissue]

Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.

[iamtootallforthis]

Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.

Shouldn't have bought em

[tp4tissue]

Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.

Shouldn't have bought em

We're all excited NT is getn' exercise in.

[iri]

Update at the closing of Week 6: My endurance is basically doubled. Where I used to get tired around 20-30 mins in, now I can go for a full hour and still be able to do more.
Definite gains in the arms and chest, arms especially look noticeably larger and more toned. Upped the amount I was benching and curling by half, so now doing reps of 30lbs curling and 90lbs bench press. I go for reps until fatigue, not maxing out weight.
Added treadmill, which I used to hate.

Thing is; I have not lost ANY weight at all. Still eating healthy, if anything, even less calories daily. But my weight has not budged an inch in about a month. Frustrating.

Gonna keep pushing to 2 months/8 weeks, then see how I feel about continuing as a lifestyle change.
All in all, this was a successful experiment. To see if someone who never stuck to any workout routine their entire life and actively hates the gym and exercise, could do their mental minimum and still get results.

If I can do it, you can do it too.

Do you realise your muscles are gradually replacing your lard? Raw weight is not a good indicator for your improvements -- better look at your waist size.

Also can you hire a personal trainer? Because reps until fatigue are not necessarily optimal for you as a noob.

And make sure you eat lots of protein.

[noisyturtle]

I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein. 
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.

[iamtootallforthis]

I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein. 
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.

Lots of good free fitness programs online to follow. More protein is definitely good overall to help with satiety and muscle building. the_plant_slant is worth following on social media for food help

[tp4tissue]

I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein. 
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.

There is absolutely no reason to consume ANY animal protein.

Proteins are just chains of amino acids. They can not be absorbed by your body, until broken into its amino constituants.

50 amino acid chain and above is a protein, less is a peptide.  But they are identical in utility.

ALL AMINO ACIDS that exist ON EARTH, are produced by PLANTS.

ANIMALS do not produce ANY Amino Acids.

Consuming animals greatly increases the rate of CANCER growth and cancer cell motility, so more cancer, and faster cancer cell movement.

Contrary to KETO -Bro science,   Plants have a complete amino acid profile. That is to say they are PROTEIN COMPLETE.

Your doctor doesn't know anything about anything. Their training is primarily to make money off you and treat the symptoms of your diseases indefinitely.  THERE IS NO CURE for diabetes, a BLATANT LIE. They can cure Type 2 within 3 weeks to 2 months. Search, Nathan Pritikin + Walter Kempner.

A whole food plant based diet Greatly improves all facets of exercise and fitness performance. Please review the documentary, The Game Changers (2018) w/ Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[noisyturtle]

Gummy Bears also have a complete amino acid profile...

[tp4tissue]

Gummy Bears also have a complete amino acid profile...

In principle yes, but if you like that, why not eat humans. Perfect match.

Nutritionally we also know that high protein intake increases cancer cell growth rate. Animal protein is even worse, because of contaminants, bio-accumulated pesticides, antibiotics, growth hormones.

[iri]

I have been eating a lot less animal protein

Why?

Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.

Mediterranean diets, regardless of the country, contain lots of animal protein. And doesn't Japanese food consist of lots of fish?

[tp4tissue]

I have been eating a lot less animal protein

Why?

Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.

Mediterranean diets, regardless of the country, contain lots of animal protein. And doesn't Japanese food consist of lots of fish?

Before WW2, and the influx of american culture, Very few japanese old men went Bald.

After Hamburgers and fried chicken came to the islands. BAM, Okinawa was no longer a centinarian hub, they drop dead at the same age as everyone else. Okinawa now hosts 20 KFCs.

Significantly more Japanese men today experience Male Pattern Baldness ~36%.  43% in the USA.

[noisyturtle]

What is everyone's favorite high-protein post-workout bar. I know all the delicious foods high in protein, just want commercial bar recommendations.
Around 15-25g of protein from whey (not collagen), and more importantly actually tastes good.

I've heard great things about Snickers High Protein, but I cannot for the life of me find anywhere that sells them. Been looking in every shop for like 6 weeks, they may not even sell it in the US.

[tp4tissue]

You don't need to supplement protein.

There is no such thing as a protein deficiency short of starvation.  Eat regular whole plant foods, and you're set. 


Tp4 recommends, Banana, then White-Rice when you get home.

[iri]

What is everyone's favorite high-protein post-workout bar.

"Weider 60% Protein Bar Salted Peanut Caramel, 27g of Protein"

I've heard great things about Snickers High Protein, but I cannot for the life of me find anywhere that sells them. Been looking in every shop for like 6 weeks, they may not even sell it in the US.

Come to the UK, Sportsdirect has them =)

[noisyturtle]

Looking into creatine and BCAA. I don't have energy problems, and creatine does nothing for muscle growth or recovery, plus it leads to hairless and water retention.
BCAA supplements are not recommended for people with sleeping problems or heart conditions, so that is out too.
100% not going on gear, it makes you look like a cartoon and shortens your life by about 20 years.

Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug
Looking into HMB, that seems like a good low-key option with little to no side effects

[fohat.digs]

hairless and water retention.
sleeping problems
heart conditions
shortens your life

my only option

How about a simple life with a good diet, fresh air, and good sleep?

[tp4tissue]

100% Veggies,

[noisyturtle]

good sleep

Unfortunately that has never been an option for me. I've had sleep issues for about as long as I can remember, all the way back to childhood.

[tp4tissue]

It's all the dead-bodies you're eating.

It should be intuitive, you come up on a dead body (Cow, Chicken, Pig),  you have NO DESIRE to eat it.

It is only through a technological, artistic exertion of Manual-Repackaging, we cut it into geometrically simple blocks,  Change the name from CADAVER to BEEF,  then cook the majority of its base taste/texture/flavor out of it, SEASON it with VEGETABLES, until it is completely un-recongnizable from the Origin of the material, such THAT MAN could ever find MEAT palatable.

But, here's the thing, You're still eating a dead carcass after the fact, something completely counter to our HUMAN-nature.

Is it not then OBVIOUS, where ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS come from.

[noisyturtle]

When I was a kid I was forced to eat vegetarian for about 6-7 years. Still had sleep problems. It is a lifelong thing I don't think there is any real solution to other than adjusting my waking hours, but that generally doesn't conform to the rest of the Worlds schedule.

[tp4tissue]

When I was a kid I was forced to eat vegetarian for about 6-7 years. Still had sleep problems. It is a lifelong thing I don't think there is any real solution to other than adjusting my waking hours, but that generally doesn't conform to the rest of the Worlds schedule.

That experience is entirely anecdotal, your parents/guardian did it wrong. Proof? 10s of MILLIONS of vegans.  Proof 2?  The majority of mankind was more/less vegan before the industrial revolution out of necessity.

[iri]

Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug

You don't even need caffeine. And technically speaking, you don't need protein supplements either, provided you get enough protein from food.

[tp4tissue]

Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug

You don't even need caffeine. And technically speaking, you don't need protein supplements either, provided you get enough protein from food.

It's impossible to not get enough protein outside of starvation.

The protein myth is entirely that, a myth. There is no such thing as a protein deficiency, it's not possible outside of corner cases.

[iamtootallforthis]

Creatine is the only worthwhile supplement. The hair loss stuff is crap and the whole point of it is water retention in the muscle lol.

Branched chain amino acids are not worth buying if you eat enough protein daily.
 
Don't know where you're finding these studies but they're not well conducted

[tp4tissue]

Creatine is the only worthwhile supplement. The hair loss stuff is crap and the whole point of it is water retention in the muscle lol.

Branched chain amino acids are not worth buying if you eat enough protein daily.
 
Don't know where you're finding these studies but they're not well conducted

Peak Ape form.

[noisyturtle]

Gorillas actually eat a huge amount of protein, plus insects are not vegan. I think protein is around 40% of their dietary intake. That's what gorillas do with most of their day is eat leaves, and because there is not a lot of nutrition, they have to eat a lot of them which turns them into protein and pooping machines.
All they do is eat and poop in a never ending cycle. So like us.

[tp4tissue]

Best study show insects account for <0.5% of gorilla's diet.

PROTEIN = Amino Acids,  ALL AMINO ACIDS on the planet earth are made BY PLANTS.

This is why Herbivores are the Strongest Species, IE,  HUMANS..

[iri]

Gorillas actually eat a huge amount of protein, plus insects are not vegan. I think protein is around 40% of their dietary intake.

Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.

[tp4tissue]

Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.

Protein is one of the most misunderstood nutrient.

It is literally impossible to be protein deficient unless you are in starvation.  It is in every single plant food.

A protein is merely a chain of 50 or more amino acids.

The entirety of all amino acids on planet earth is produced BY PLANTS.

A protein can not be utilized after ingestion, UNTIL it is broken up by enzymes into the original amino acids, of which there are 20 (22) total different ones.

Chicken/Cow/Pigs/Lions/Tigers, are all built by plants.

The problem with eating cows/pigs/chickens, apart from it being highly carcinogenic, is the diabetes/heart disease from the extra fats + cholesterol.

[TomahawkLabs]

Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.

Protein is one of the most misunderstood nutrient.

It is literally impossible to be protein deficient unless you are in starvation.  It is in every single plant food.

A protein is merely a chain of 50 or more amino acids.

The entirety of all amino acids on planet earth is produced BY PLANTS.

A protein can not be utilized after ingestion, UNTIL it is broken up by enzymes into the original amino acids, of which there are 20 (22) total different ones.

Chicken/Cow/Pigs/Lions/Tigers, are all built by plants.

The problem with eating cows/pigs/chickens, apart from it being highly carcinogenic, is the diabetes/heart disease from the extra fats + cholesterol.

Isn't the issue with absorbing protein from most plants difficult for humans because of how we break down our food, where as other animals are better suited to consume plants to break down the protein and turn it into a protein (meat) that humans can get more nutrients from?

[tp4tissue]

Isn't the issue with absorbing protein from most plants difficult for humans because of how we break down our food, where as other animals are better suited to consume plants to break down the protein and turn it into a protein (meat) that humans can get more nutrients from?

No, That's protein-Myth, it's BRO-science. 

Humans are Herbivores, our digestive tract is extremely long relative to our trunk size.  This is directly indicative that our system is designed to digest PLANTS.

REAL carnivores, such as cats, tigers, lions, have very short digestive tracks relative to trunk length. The reason for this, is they want to get rid of the meat as quickly as possible.

WHY's that Tp4?

What happens to meat in a WET and WARM environment.  IT ROTS,  PUTRIFICATION.

What happens when HUMANS eat meat, with its LONG digestive track.  That meat PUTRIFIES in your gut.  This is another reason why Heavy meat eaters are so prone to Gut/ Colon cancers.

[Mandan]

I went carnivore a couple of years ago.  I've lost 120 pounds, put on a bunch of muscle, no longer need or take blood pressure meds, anti-inflammatories, or antihistamines, and frankly, I feel a lot better than when I was eating a "normal" diet.

Carnivore doesn't seem to come with the burden of proselytizing that vegans seem to be prone to.  We just enjoy the benefits without making a cause out of it.

[iamtootallforthis]

I went carnivore a couple of years ago.  I've lost 120 pounds, put on a bunch of muscle, no longer need or take blood pressure meds, anti-inflammatories, or antihistamines, and frankly, I feel a lot better than when I was eating a "normal" diet.

Carnivore doesn't seem to come with the burden of proselytizing that vegans seem to be prone to.  We just enjoy the benefits without making a cause out of it.

Carnivores are just as bad. Arguably worse right now given their prevalence on social media