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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #300 on: Tue, 21 September 2021, 18:10:35 »
Over 90% of over 16s vaxed in Ireland (we had very little push back from the public) and covids still hanging about in pretty substantial numbers. Still no alternatives being proposed really. Health services still a mess, although it was like that pre-covid to be fair. My fathers in hospital for 48 hours so far (chemo knocked him for a loop) still hasn't gotten a bed yet and he's got really good private health insurance.

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« Reply #301 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 07:54:34 »
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« Reply #302 on: Thu, 23 September 2021, 09:47:47 »
2000+ now !!

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #303 on: Fri, 24 September 2021, 07:29:43 »
Have you guys heard about the latest fad? Inhaling hydrogen peroxide !

https://www.healthline.com/health/can-hydrogen-peroxide-kill-you#food-grade
Over the past few decades there has been a redistribution of dignity — upward. The Republicans valorized entrepreneurs, CEOs and Wall Street. The Democratic Party became dominated by people in the creative class, who attended competitive colleges, moved to affluent metro areas, married each other and ladled advantages onto their kids so they could leap even farther ahead. There was a bipartisan embrace of a culture of individualism, which opens up a lot of space for people with resources and social support but means loneliness and abandonment for people without. Four years of college became the definition of the good life, which left roughly two-thirds of the country out. And so came the crisis that Biden was elected to address — the poisonous combination of elite insularity and vicious populist resentment. A group of people so enraged by a lack of respect that they are willing to risk death by Covid if they get to stick a middle finger in the air against those who they think look down on them. They are willing to torch our institutions because they are so resentful against the people who run them. The Democratic spending bills are economic packages that serve moral and cultural purposes. They should be measured by their cultural impact, not merely by some wonky analysis. In real, tangible ways, they would redistribute dignity back downward. They would support hundreds of thousands of jobs for home health care workers, child care workers, construction workers, metal workers, supply chain workers. They would ease the indignity millions of parents face having to raise their children in poverty.  – David Brooks NYT 2021

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #304 on: Fri, 24 September 2021, 09:52:22 »
Funeral Director AMA:

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Funeral Embalmer:  By telling myself that one day I'll probably get to shove their dead body in a fire.

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« Reply #305 on: Sat, 25 September 2021, 03:57:35 »
Have you guys heard about the latest fad? Inhaling hydrogen peroxide !

https://www.healthline.com/health/can-hydrogen-peroxide-kill-you#food-grade
The vax is untested, but lets use horse dewormer and inhaler peroxide...
Some seriously flawed logic here.


Not sure if I posted it here or not but I've been telling people once ivermectin is shown to not work well, they will find some other thing that's cheaper and/or easier to get in order to drive looks. It happened with silverhwatever, then it was ivermectin, and drinking bleach... now inhaling peroxide. Anti-vaxx is not about saving people, it's about views, looks and money.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #306 on: Sat, 25 September 2021, 07:34:19 »
The vax is untested, but lets use horse dewormer and inhaler peroxide...
Some seriously flawed logic here.


Not sure if I posted it here or not but I've been telling people once ivermectin is shown to not work well, they will find some other thing that's cheaper and/or easier to get in order to drive looks. It happened with silverhwatever, then it was ivermectin, and drinking bleach... now inhaling peroxide. Anti-vaxx is not about saving people, it's about views, looks and money.

how are they even inhaling peroxide ? Is it not bubbly fluid ?

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« Reply #307 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 03:22:32 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.
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« Reply #308 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 04:04:53 »
how are they even inhaling peroxide ? Is it not bubbly fluid ?[/color]
Using a nebulizer.
It's a great way to royally f*ck up your lungs.


My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
Not everyone dies without meds, around day 10 your either going to get over the hump and start feeling better or start going downhill rapidly. Just because someone got better while taking it, proves absolutely nothing, especially if they started taking it on day 8-10 which tends to be the peak of sickness and about the time people start resorting to whatever they can find.

I took nothing, not even cough syrup and I beat it, taking Ivermectin and getting better proves nothing. They could just as likely gotten over it just as easily, or possibly even easier without Ivermectin.
You need multiple subjects, plus a control group to figure out if it actually did anything, much less helped and that has not been done.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #309 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 07:14:56 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.

We're EASILY at 10-30 million, they're undercounting.

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« Reply #310 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 07:18:06 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.

We're EASILY at 10-30 million, they're undercounting.

Obviously they're undercounting. Pretty sure these are confirmed cases only.
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« Reply #311 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 08:01:54 »

We're EASILY at 10-30 million, they're undercounting.

Obviously they're undercounting. Pretty sure these are confirmed cases only.

Crazy thing is with Delta, Herd Immunity is impossible. Which means even when we get to say 90% vaxx, The virus will still_FIND the unvaxxed-population and have the same 2-6% kill rate.

Which means right now (if nothing changes), there's still between 1.4 million to 4.2 million willing victims left to go in the USA out of the 70m unvaxxed .

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« Reply #312 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 12:05:04 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.
Is that since Wuhan or since the vaccine?

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« Reply #313 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 12:36:18 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.
Is that since Wuhan or since the vaccine?
Looks like Jan 2020, judging by the data on the website.
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« Reply #314 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 18:26:36 »
My friend who has been treated with Ivermectin and antibodies, is now COVID-free. Score for the antivax team!
4,757,639 covid deaths so far ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/ ) . I'd say that makes the vaxxers lead by 4,757,639 to 1.

We're EASILY at 10-30 million, they're undercounting.

Do you mean a quarter of the deaths worldwide are now from Covid?

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« Reply #315 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 13:08:15 »
It is really hard to tease complex data sets apart, and in most of the world data is simply not accurately recorded in the first place.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid


And back to the emotion vs science debate in the US:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/vigilante-treatments-anti-vaccine-groups-push-people-leave-icus-rcna2233
Over the past few decades there has been a redistribution of dignity — upward. The Republicans valorized entrepreneurs, CEOs and Wall Street. The Democratic Party became dominated by people in the creative class, who attended competitive colleges, moved to affluent metro areas, married each other and ladled advantages onto their kids so they could leap even farther ahead. There was a bipartisan embrace of a culture of individualism, which opens up a lot of space for people with resources and social support but means loneliness and abandonment for people without. Four years of college became the definition of the good life, which left roughly two-thirds of the country out. And so came the crisis that Biden was elected to address — the poisonous combination of elite insularity and vicious populist resentment. A group of people so enraged by a lack of respect that they are willing to risk death by Covid if they get to stick a middle finger in the air against those who they think look down on them. They are willing to torch our institutions because they are so resentful against the people who run them. The Democratic spending bills are economic packages that serve moral and cultural purposes. They should be measured by their cultural impact, not merely by some wonky analysis. In real, tangible ways, they would redistribute dignity back downward. They would support hundreds of thousands of jobs for home health care workers, child care workers, construction workers, metal workers, supply chain workers. They would ease the indignity millions of parents face having to raise their children in poverty.  – David Brooks NYT 2021

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #316 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 13:48:13 »
Southern states, higher rate of stillbirths. /gasp

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« Reply #317 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 13:51:53 »
Apparently severe covid lung damage only takes ~14 days.

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« Reply #318 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 00:32:35 »
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« Reply #319 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 04:57:33 »
My sister-in-law and pretty much here whole immediate family now has it.
Mom's on a ventilator or headed there, dad is right behind her and her brothers and sisters (and several of their children) are also now infected.

All have been completely reckless about it, not to mention complete a$$holes, they've all but alienated themselves from long time friends and family.
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« Reply #320 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 06:32:38 »
My sister-in-law and pretty much here whole immediate family now has it.
Mom's on a ventilator or headed there, dad is right behind her and her brothers and sisters (and several of their children) are also now infected.

All have been completely reckless about it, not to mention complete a$$holes, they've all but alienated themselves from long time friends and family.

Hughmahnss what ya gon' do   //sighh....

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« Reply #321 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 08:27:41 »

All have been completely reckless about it


The question that I keep asking myself about all of these bizarre anti-social behaviors is:

What are they hoping to accomplish ?
Over the past few decades there has been a redistribution of dignity — upward. The Republicans valorized entrepreneurs, CEOs and Wall Street. The Democratic Party became dominated by people in the creative class, who attended competitive colleges, moved to affluent metro areas, married each other and ladled advantages onto their kids so they could leap even farther ahead. There was a bipartisan embrace of a culture of individualism, which opens up a lot of space for people with resources and social support but means loneliness and abandonment for people without. Four years of college became the definition of the good life, which left roughly two-thirds of the country out. And so came the crisis that Biden was elected to address — the poisonous combination of elite insularity and vicious populist resentment. A group of people so enraged by a lack of respect that they are willing to risk death by Covid if they get to stick a middle finger in the air against those who they think look down on them. They are willing to torch our institutions because they are so resentful against the people who run them. The Democratic spending bills are economic packages that serve moral and cultural purposes. They should be measured by their cultural impact, not merely by some wonky analysis. In real, tangible ways, they would redistribute dignity back downward. They would support hundreds of thousands of jobs for home health care workers, child care workers, construction workers, metal workers, supply chain workers. They would ease the indignity millions of parents face having to raise their children in poverty.  – David Brooks NYT 2021

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« Reply #322 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 09:54:28 »
Not sure what you're posting.  While I halve always 100% support an open and "free" internet I myself have reached a fatigue point with misinformation so if you're posting rants about ivermectin or this or that alternative cure I can see why they are getting removed.  (thank you admins).
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« Reply #323 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 10:09:08 »
Not sure what you're posting.  While I halve always 100% support an open and "free" internet I myself have reached a fatigue point with misinformation

Agreed.

I also have no idea what Zeal could possibly have to do with any of this.


Consider this a gentle reminder that misinformation will be removed.

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« Reply #324 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 10:10:31 »
Not sure what you're posting.  While I halve always 100% support an open and "free" internet I myself have reached a fatigue point with misinformation

I also have no idea what Zeal could possibly have to do with any of this.
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« Reply #325 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 11:37:38 »
So,  Latest data suggests smokers ARE more at risk,   this contradicts initial lung study released very early in the pandemic.

That initial paper was retracted as " it was discovered that some of the paper’s authors had financial links to the tobacco industry. "    So there you go,  Tobacco industry at it again, killing their base.

Smokers are 60-80% more likely to be hospitalized based on Oxford study pulling the now available large dataset.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #326 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 12:17:06 »
Ok, now this is hilarious.   Antivaxxer wants to buy ECMO machine for Home Use instead of taking the vaccine.

These are 0.25-0.5  $Million dollar machines, and require trained operators.  hahahahaha

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« Reply #327 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 16:10:06 »
Ok, now this is hilarious.   Antivaxxer wants to buy ECMO machine for Home Use instead of taking the vaccine.

These are 0.25-0.5  $Million dollar machines, and require trained operators.  hahahahaha

I imagine it'd be fairly difficult to get hold of one now too xD .
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« Reply #328 on: Thu, 30 September 2021, 16:22:30 »
Went to the pub on Saturday and wasn't very impressed. Everybody was milling around each other without masks on. Nobody cares anymore.

I don't want to draw the mods ire by suggesting horse paste is what's saved me so far but I can confirm an increased libido & my mane is glossy.

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« Reply #329 on: Thu, 30 September 2021, 17:22:36 »
I don't want to draw the mods ire by suggesting horse paste is what's saved me so far but I can confirm an increased libido & my mane is glossy.

Try No Poo,  it's all the rage..

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« Reply #330 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 02:21:03 »
I don't want to draw the mods ire by suggesting horse paste is what's saved me so far but I can confirm an increased libido & my mane is glossy.
Try No Poo,  it's all the rage..
It's been a thing for years.

*It means "no shampoo", just conditioner.
Most shampoos are extremely detergent heavy and strip all vitamins, minerals and oils from your hair, then you need heavy conditioners to put it all back. Before silicones and tv people didn't wash their hair daily, that was companies pushing that on you with commercials to sell more product. This where the excuse to skip out on date became "I'm washing my hair" because most did it only a couple times a week). To replace those things, you need a heavy conditioner and to hide the damage being done they load the conditioner up with silicones (anything ingredient with "cones" in the name is a silicone), now you need a heavy shampoo just to strip away the silicone... It's a never ending cycle of purging the good with the bad and hoping to replace enough of the good and hide what you didn't. This becomes more and more difficult the longer you hair. Some conditioners have so much silicone it can not only weigh down your hair but also build up in your home's plumbing. All this ignores the other harsh chems and things in the shampoo and conditioner.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #331 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 06:52:07 »
I don't want to draw the mods ire by suggesting horse paste is what's saved me so far but I can confirm an increased libido & my mane is glossy.
Try No Poo,  it's all the rage..
It's been a thing for years.

*It means "no shampoo", just conditioner.
Most shampoos are extremely detergent heavy and strip all vitamins, minerals and oils from your hair, then you need heavy conditioners to put it all back. Before silicones and tv people didn't wash their hair daily, that was companies pushing that on you with commercials to sell more product. This where the excuse to skip out on date became "I'm washing my hair" because most did it only a couple times a week). To replace those things, you need a heavy conditioner and to hide the damage being done they load the conditioner up with silicones (anything ingredient with "cones" in the name is a silicone), now you need a heavy shampoo just to strip away the silicone... It's a never ending cycle of purging the good with the bad and hoping to replace enough of the good and hide what you didn't. This becomes more and more difficult the longer you hair. Some conditioners have so much silicone it can not only weigh down your hair but also build up in your home's plumbing. All this ignores the other harsh chems and things in the shampoo and conditioner.

Gud' summary ..

Tp4's only concern has been environmental pollution sticking to the oils in the hair. we got all this Chemi-Dust.

Maybe a balance can be struck at once a week maybe 2 weeks ?

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #332 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 07:46:00 »
The media LOVes to h8 on we the phat peeps

:: " medical care shrinks for a population that tends to be older, sicker, heavier, poorer and less vaccinated. "

Why they gotta stick that wurd in there to hurt us..  /mad

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #333 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 12:49:02 »
LOL, Just watched the movie, _Implanted_ (2021).. Pretttty anti-AI. Killer bot.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #334 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 04:38:09 »
Well that went bad fast...
Sis-in-law and both her parents are now in I.C.U. on bipaps, they didn't expect her to survive the night, one nephew now has it, the other is still clear, but is also is still attending school.
No one can visit any of them in I.C.U., if you die in there you die alone surrounded only by machines, doesn't matter who you are or who you know.


I hate to see it, but this is what they get.
Want to kill yourself go sacrifice yourself to a volcano, don't take a bunch of others with you.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #335 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 04:52:25 »
Tp4's only concern has been environmental pollution sticking to the oils in the hair. we got all this Chemi-Dust.

Maybe a balance can be struck at once a week maybe 2 weeks ?[/size][/color]
Water should strip away the contaminated oil, that's part of the reason it's there.

With short hair, it's probably more than fine, you can use almost anything with really short hair, military guys are known to just use bar soap for shampoo with no conditioner at all. With really long hair I question if the natural oils can even get that far without spending all day brushing it to push it down to the ends. Even with lots of conditioner mine seems to change about mid back no matter how hard I work it or what shampoo or conditioner I use.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #336 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 08:33:59 »

Well that went bad fast

they didn't expect her to survive the night,


Whoa! That's awful. From the beginning I have been mystified by the differences between responses and reactions, how can it be that the same virus can be so deadly in some circumstances while others have asymptomatic cases and never even notice it?
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #337 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 09:33:21 »
Tp4's only concern has been environmental pollution sticking to the oils in the hair. we got all this Chemi-Dust.

Maybe a balance can be struck at once a week maybe 2 weeks ?
Water should strip away the contaminated oil, that's part of the reason it's there.

With short hair, it's probably more than fine, you can use almost anything with really short hair, military guys are known to just use bar soap for shampoo with no conditioner at all. With really long hair I question if the natural oils can even get that far without spending all day brushing it to push it down to the ends. Even with lots of conditioner mine seems to change about mid back no matter how hard I work it or what shampoo or conditioner I use.

What is the maximum range of the scalp's natural oils in your experience, in inches, 6-7 inches ?

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #338 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 19:43:36 »

Well that went bad fast

they didn't expect her to survive the night,


Whoa! That's awful. From the beginning I have been mystified by the differences between responses and reactions, how can it be that the same virus can be so deadly in some circumstances while others have asymptomatic cases and never even notice it?
Yes, this has fundamentally surprised me as well. It's statistically quite expected and explainable, of course, but I'd be lying if I said it's not frightening Oo .
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #339 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 19:49:29 »

Well that went bad fast

they didn't expect her to survive the night,


Whoa! That's awful. From the beginning I have been mystified by the differences between responses and reactions, how can it be that the same virus can be so deadly in some circumstances while others have asymptomatic cases and never even notice it?
Yes, this has fundamentally surprised me as well. It's statistically quite expected and explainable, of course, but I'd be lying if I said it's not frightening Oo .

The west is rift with comorbidity is the problem.  Covid is like Watergun vs Charizard. It's a weak attack but super effective.

America is 70% overweight, 40% obese.   2/5 people, that's alot.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #340 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 03:32:04 »
Update:
Apparently at least 2 of the 3 are now off bipap, not sure if out of I.C.U. yet though. While I hope this wakes them to the reality of the situation, I;m honestly not sure, I suspect they will blow it off and claim they have another 6 months of immunity and go about their bussines as they always have.
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« Reply #341 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 04:08:38 »
What is the maximum range of the scalp's natural oils in your experience, in inches, 6-7 inches ?
I would imagine it would depend on the person and hair type.
In my experience, damage to the hair from external sources is more likely to be an issue for most, either from treatments, styling products, coloring, or just daily damage due to length*.

While it all sounds so simple, unless you keep it really short like a buzzcut, you would need to change most of how you treat your hair to do this, just as you would for really long hair.
Since you removed the chemicals to remove other products ALL of your other products also now need to change to avoid buildup or incompatibility (some styling products will not work well on oily hair). And since you are no longer hiding any damage, you need to make sure nothing damages it, less heat in the shower, little to no blow drying, no curlers, no coloring... In the end you end up using many of the same tricks and techniques as really long haired people use.

*Anything shoulder blade length or more is waaaaaaaaaay more prone to damage, from simply sitting to sleeping and only gets worse and worse the longer it gets from there.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #342 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 04:57:27 »
Update:
Apparently at least 2 of the 3 are now off bipap, not sure if out of I.C.U. yet though. While I hope this wakes them to the reality of the situation, I;m honestly not sure, I suspect they will blow it off and claim they have another 6 months of immunity and go about their bussines as they always have.

ICU stats are worse than Civilwar hospitals.

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« Reply #343 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 10:27:26 »
I'm quite conscious I'm a stone overweight.  Been trying to lose it for 3 years it just doesn't wanna shift!

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« Reply #344 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 10:34:13 »
I'm quite conscious I'm a stone overweight.  Been trying to lose it for 3 years it just doesn't wanna shift!

If exactly 1 stone, nothing to worry about. but 2-3 stones.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #345 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 19:14:26 »
Merck's  Antiviral Pills.

It's better than nothing, but damn..... can't believe it's come to this..

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #346 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 19:39:46 »
Indonesia's gettn' under pretty badly

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #347 on: Mon, 04 October 2021, 03:47:21 »
Update,
Correction from earlier, all 3 were off bipap, and I believe both parents are also now out of I.C.U.
I.C.U., sis-in-law is back on the bipap.

Seriously get the damn vaxx..

Despite it sounding good for the parents at least one has signs of dementia while the other is quite frail and older. Dementia patents do NOT deal well with any life changes and often will go from functional to completly screwed mentally when something bad happens, even if it's unrelated to memory or brain, they fall off a cliff and they may never return. I can't imagine how they will be with low oxygen, away from their spouse and normal day to day life. It's very possible even if both survive they will end up in an assisted living facility. Probably not right away because the family will try and keep them out of it, but from experience I can tell you, if a parent needs it, DO NOT WAIT. Yes, the conditions are not great, but while you think you're helping, you're really just making both of your lives miserable and makes the change harder for them later when they can't understand. Meanwhile you run yourself ragged trying to take care of them and yourself and since you can't be there all the time, worse things can happen to them.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #348 on: Mon, 04 October 2021, 09:21:59 »
That's pretty lucky well, maybe not (long term suffering), but Going in then out with more than 1 person is a pretty significant probability roll.

Also Boosters, get dat booster.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #349 on: Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:31:40 »
Holy Crap:

Current nurse's account_

There's a CPR coming in and a GSW walked into triage and we really need this combative drug overdose in restraints so please can you help out I'll send someone to assist as soon as I can and my other patient is crashing and there's no time to b r e a t h e.

All I can do is watch helplessly at this mess unfolding. My patient is peeing on the floor now. Another hyperkalemia/missed dialysis patient is on the call light. My COVID patient is 72% and still peeing on the floor. The ER doc and the ICU doc are debating which of the multiple COVID patients holding in the ER take the last vent and the last ICU bed. There's 4 in my pod alone that need it. Respiratory walks past shouting about placing the last bipap in the ER on another patient. My patient is now ****ting the bed while peeing on the floor.