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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:22:09 »
how to completely derail a thread, put TP on vegetables :)

We all knew it would happen eventually, lol.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:26:39 »
although now the question is, is Marijuana a vegetable? :) and if so would TP stance on it would change?
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 10:01:11 »
It is a plant of many uses.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 10:04:25 »
although now the question is, is Marijuana a vegetable? :) and if so would TP stance on it would change?

Strategically marijuana proliferation is among the dumbest things that's affected america.

Everything costs something. The cost of marijuana is TIME and Productivity. You take a regular human being, dope him up, see how well he works.  This is only going to acclerate the decline of american excellence.

The only argument for marijuana is if we say, well you have to create this blue collar workforce somehow. As statistically most kids who do weed before highschool end up dropouts.

Tp4 is not convinced this blue collar human workforce is necessary given what automation and AI is becoming.  This ploy is far more likely to be a net loss in competitiveness of american businesses.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 21:12:17 »
I'm a country where marijuana is banned, but it must be a really fascinating product... I definitely want to experience it.  :eek:
But I saw that analysis very well.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 01:51:45 »
Honestly the exact same can be said about underage kids who smoke cigarettes. They were, in my experience, almost always trouble makers or slackers.
So it's not the cannabis per se I don't believe.

They're both not good.   neuro development does not complete until ~ age 25.

Imagine installing windows, and the the CPU is hit by enough system interrupts such that it copies the wrong code to disk.

SOME systems might come out ok if the damage is fringe code,  but others can end up inoperable.


During OS-Installation, Tp4 always underclocks the CPU and makes sure the minimum amount of components are connected as well as disabling non-essential motherboard functions .


That's not how interrupts work. And OS installs for all modern versions of Windows, OSX, almost all Linux and BSD distros verify file integrity via checksums. Interrupts are workload driven as well, so an underclocked CPU is just going to handle the interrupts slower, so the overall level of CPU contention is going to remain the same.


Anyway, I didn't smoke pot regularly until my mid 20s, so I can't really talk about any effects it would have had on me if I had started younger, but it's never impacted my ability to hold down a white collar job in a competitive industry.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 01:53:41 »
frankly all the peoples i know/knew who took marijuana did it because it was illegal just to do something illegal, i am not sure if legalization would increase the numbers, and alcohol have rather similar effects on time and productivity, so if alcohol is legal i do not see why marijuana isn't, works both way, to me both should be treated as equal.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 04:06:19 »
frankly all the peoples i know/knew who took marijuana did it because it was illegal just to do something illegal, i am not sure if legalization would increase the numbers, and alcohol have rather similar effects on time and productivity, so if alcohol is legal i do not see why marijuana isn't, works both way, to me both should be treated as equal.

Yep, I think so too.
Mary Jane having less impact on actual body, should be legalised - alcohol has bigger impact, very unhealthy, where MJ is all good for you:)

Imagine all that money form taxes etc government could gain from ligal MJ sale.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 16:45:07 »
We have more weed than anyone else here, and it's fine.

It's like you said, it's legal here, so it's not so cool for kids to get into. It's just kinda, meh. It's mostly for the tourists.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 18:14:44 »
We have more weed than anyone else here, and it's fine.

It's like you said, it's legal here, so it's not so cool for kids to get into. It's just kinda, meh. It's mostly for the tourists.
You're gonna hit the blunt once and start seeing the world in imperial units.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 03:07:48 »
We have more weed than anyone else here, and it's fine.

It's like you said, it's legal here, so it's not so cool for kids to get into. It's just kinda, meh. It's mostly for the tourists.
You're gonna hit the blunt once and start seeing the world in imperial units.
is it the secret to understanding and working with those?
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 04:07:27 »
We have more weed than anyone else here, and it's fine.

It's like you said, it's legal here, so it's not so cool for kids to get into. It's just kinda, meh. It's mostly for the tourists.
You're gonna hit the blunt once and start seeing the world in imperial units.
is it the secret to understanding and working with those?
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 09:56:14 »
Still don't understand why 'Murica is so tied up into using "Freedom" units for measurements, Metric system is soo much easier in the long run (and more accurate).  So being that I am American, do I see in Metric instead of Imperial/Freedom units? 

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 10:15:13 »
It's funny, liquid measure made the switch quickly, in certain areas, back in the 1970s when there was the first serious concerted push to change over.

I started school in 1958 and finished school in 1976, and there was talk of a changeover - in the near future - for most of that time, especially the latter part.

The actual answer is the  installed base / sunk cost  dilemma.

And as the old saying goes: "The only thing that people hate more than the status quo is change."

But to your point, yes I can think in metric measure but it takes a bit of effort.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 10:22:07 »
metric vs imp is a political debate.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 13:57:10 »
This debate is relevant to the thread, because weed is sold in ounces AND grams.  :confused:

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 13:58:24 »
the weight is all over the place on it depending.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 16 June 2021, 18:19:28 »

marijuana is not as bad as the masses are presenting it.


I don't think that anyone should be denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" including pretty much any form of intoxication - in the comfort and safety of his own home.

But all those people who get hammered - away from home - and then feel compelled to drive home (@ midnight when you would be sleepy anyway?) are a menace to themselves and everyone who crosses their paths.

In my opinion, a "slightly drunk" driver is probably better than a "slightly stoned" driver, but after a few more the table would tilt the other way.

Stay off the road when intoxicated. PLEASE ?
"We must adjust to changing times and still hold to unchanging principles." – The bold and brilliant dream which excited the founders of this Nation still awaits its consummation. Ours was the first society openly to define itself in terms of both spirituality and of human liberty. It is that unique self–definition which has given us an exceptional appeal, but it also imposes on us a special obligation: to take on those moral duties which, when assumed, seem invariably to be in our own best interests.
The American dream endures. We must once again have full faith in our country – and in one another. I believe America can be better. We can be even stronger than before. Let our recent mistakes bring a resurgent commitment to the basic principles of our Nation, for we know that if we despise our own government we have no future. We recall in special times when we have stood briefly, but magnificently, united. In those times no prize was beyond our grasp.
But we cannot dwell upon remembered glory. We cannot afford to drift. Our Government must at the same time be both competent and compassionate. Our Nation can be strong abroad only if it is strong at home. And we know that the best way to enhance freedom in other lands is to demonstrate here that our democratic system is worthy of emulation. To be true to ourselves, we must be true to others. We must not behave in foreign places so as to violate our rules and standards here at home, for we know that the trust which our Nation earns is essential to our strength. 
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 02:37:09 »

marijuana is not as bad as the masses are presenting it.


I don't think that anyone should be denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" including pretty much any form of intoxication - in the comfort and safety of his own home.

But all those people who get hammered - away from home - and then feel compelled to drive home (@ midnight when you would be sleepy anyway?) are a menace to themselves and everyone who crosses their paths.

In my opinion, a "slightly drunk" driver is probably better than a "slightly stoned" driver, but after a few more the table would tilt the other way.

Stay off the road when intoxicated. PLEASE ?

That's true. I cant imagine myself driving when being high. It "over exposure" all your feelings to the level where you cant do much, especially motoric behaviors are crippled.
Walking then is fun :)
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 13:28:00 »

marijuana is not as bad as the masses are presenting it.


I don't think that anyone should be denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" including pretty much any form of intoxication - in the comfort and safety of his own home.

But all those people who get hammered - away from home - and then feel compelled to drive home (@ midnight when you would be sleepy anyway?) are a menace to themselves and everyone who crosses their paths.

In my opinion, a "slightly drunk" driver is probably better than a "slightly stoned" driver, but after a few more the table would tilt the other way.

Stay off the road when intoxicated. PLEASE ?

That's true. I cant imagine myself driving when being high. It "over exposure" all your feelings to the level where you cant do much, especially motoric behaviors are crippled.
Walking then is fun :)

I think it really depends on the level of resistance the individual feels. Someone who smokes every day, being stoned is just like a slight shift but they function basically normally. It's not like alcohol in that respect, the effect of marijuana is reduced overall the more often a person indulges in it.
If I don't smoke for a week I get baked out of my mind and cannot function properly. I smoke everyday it does have a long-term negative cognitive impact, but the effect is nearly unnoticeable to anyone but myself.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 29 June 2021, 14:37:41 »
Don't want to upset you, but I've seen some bad consequences after this "leaf". People keep believing in all the marketing stuff that like marijuana, or medicinal mushrooms australia or any other "safe things" are better than alcohol. Maybe the rational consume has no influence, but I absolutely don't believe them. It's such a business! My friend had the combination of stressful university and marijuana consumption. The result was 2 weeks at the hospital with some brain complications, also the nervous system was down. Tell me this isn't a bad consequence! I just don't understand the big dream of the human being to ruin the own body.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 29 June 2021, 14:38:54 »
And what would those be, and ones that are actually true.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #122 on: Tue, 29 June 2021, 15:17:25 »
This thread just keeps popping up.


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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:10:07 »
This thread just keeps popping up.

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It's the bots.

Drug use affirmation is extremely popular with the User base.

People like to hear good things about their bad habits.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:26:14 »

People like to hear good things about their bad habits.


eg - the deliciousness of non-vegan food
"We must adjust to changing times and still hold to unchanging principles." – The bold and brilliant dream which excited the founders of this Nation still awaits its consummation. Ours was the first society openly to define itself in terms of both spirituality and of human liberty. It is that unique self–definition which has given us an exceptional appeal, but it also imposes on us a special obligation: to take on those moral duties which, when assumed, seem invariably to be in our own best interests.
The American dream endures. We must once again have full faith in our country – and in one another. I believe America can be better. We can be even stronger than before. Let our recent mistakes bring a resurgent commitment to the basic principles of our Nation, for we know that if we despise our own government we have no future. We recall in special times when we have stood briefly, but magnificently, united. In those times no prize was beyond our grasp.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:34:30 »

People like to hear good things about their bad habits.


eg - the deliciousness of non-vegan food

I've had some delicious Vegan-fied Chocolate Cake, surprised the hell out of me - so it is possible to make something taste good w/ a vegan pallet
But again depends on the chef/baker of said goods.

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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 14:33:08 »
I wish they legalise it here in UK. Not gonna happen probably...
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« Reply #127 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 14:37:04 »

People like to hear good things about their bad habits.


eg - the deliciousness of non-vegan food

I've had some delicious Vegan-fied Chocolate Cake, surprised the hell out of me - so it is possible to make something taste good w/ a vegan pallet
But again depends on the chef/baker of said goods.

Vegan food can be absolutely be delicious if it's not attempting to imitate something else. It is in it's best element when doing something that showcases the fresh ingredients, as opposed to covering up or disguising them.

That's also why nothing could ever replace or beat the taste for a really good steak or burger for those who have the taste for them.
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Re: Marijuana, It's probably Fine..
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 14:37:27 »
I've had some delicious Vegan-fied Chocolate Cake, surprised the hell out of me - so it is possible to make something taste good w/ a vegan pallet
But again depends on the chef/baker of said goods.

A protein is a Chain of amino-acids.  There are 22 amino acids, ALL PROTEIN is built from them.

You body does NOT digest whole proteins, if a protein is slightly misfolded or different the body can not use them. WHICH is why the body breaks ingested proteins down into amino acids before making its own proteins.

ALL amino acids originate in plants.  ANIMALS DO NOT produce Amino Acids.

Everything delicious can be made from NON-animal-sources.