GPU buy when ?

[tp4tissue]

The whole internet says hold... but, till when ?

[CaesarAZealad]

The whole internet says hold... but, till when ?

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I know **** about **** when it comes to PC parts and even I know waiting is the best option for this generation.

Not to hijack this topic but I've been looking to upgrade my PC from a 970 and ryzen 3. Not to modern stuff, god no, but something last gen, maybe 2000 series. I've been out of the game for a bit tho so if anyone would love to share their opinion for an affordable cpu gpu combo that'd be naiiice.

[Leslieann]

The whole internet says hold... but, till when ?

Not sure why they say wait.. Wait for what, the 4060? 4050? They're going to be a (very expensive) waste of silicone. The 4060 Ti exists solely to make you think the 4070 is a good deal, it's not.
Buy AMD or last gen (AMD or Nvidia) and be happy. That's my plan, the 40 series can take a flying leap. I'm not alone on this sentiment.

The only thing I can really say to wait for is:
Nvidia lowering prices (Hahahahahahahah, no.)
AMD expects something truly groundbreaking. Maybe, but at what price? Will it be really be better or just a good alternative to used or equally priced Nvidia?
Intel lowers their price (Intel has come a ways, just make sure you know what to expect)

The only real thing to wait for is Black Firday... This may be the first in years where we see actual deal on Nvidia again... But how good of deals, and is it worth the wait, and are you getting a 40 series worth actually buying. otherwise, what's out now should pretty much work fine at a good price, either new or used.

[Leslieann]

I know **** about **** when it comes to PC parts and even I know waiting is the best option for this generation.

Not to hijack this topic but I've been looking to upgrade my PC from a 970 and ryzen 3. Not to modern stuff, god no, but something last gen, maybe 2000 series. I've been out of the game for a bit tho so if anyone would love to share their opinion for an affordable cpu gpu combo that'd be naiiice.

Waiting on pc parts is a fools game.
Why? Because there's always something new coming.

Get the best you can, when you can and enjoy it.
I've seen so many people plan out a system, go to buy and the parts no longer exist or something happens and it doesn't work out. Or they start buying parts and by the time it gets assembled a year has passed and the parts are now last gen and never been fired up. Meanwhile they spend all that time not enjoying the parts, while the parts lose value.

Buy what you can and enjoy it.. You're not getting any younger.


As for what you want...
My advice, 8gigs vram minimum, but don't kill yourself for more.
Nvidia 2070, 2080, 3060, 3070  or AMD 6600, 6700, 6700 xt
Once you have that, get 32 gigs ram if you have less than that.

To really push beyond those specs, you're going to need a high refresh/high res monitor and that will cost more than the system.

[Leslieann]

A bit more to both of these.
The market is always changing, when I spec out a system for someone I always tell them it's an estimate and it coudl be more, it could be less, the best deal always changes. A

And it's the same problem trying to wait and build it yourself, especially if you're collecting parts. Ryzen 2000 series works in 1000 series boards, but only after an update. Say you bought custom psu cables, then Nvidia releases the 40 series with a new cable.  A new socket renders your heat sink incompatible.... The new PSU spec could finally arrive and you're stuck with last gen because you bought a board a month earlier... Imagine being the person waiting and saving for weeks or months for the 4070 or 4060 and now seeing the benchmarks. I know a bunch who were waiting for the EVGA 4080 and 4090.  Count on nothing.

It doesn't pay to wait.
Buy the best you can when you can. Enjoy it and don't look back.

[tp4tissue]

thinking $450 6950xt + viewsonic-XG2431 $150ish  on Blackfriday?

[Leslieann]

That sounds very lopsided.
You're wanting a 6950xt, but pairing with a 1080p screen? 

Beyond 75-100hz you start get diminishing returns, still better, just less and less better.
So unless you're playing CS, you're probably better off with 4k or 1440p@150hz than 1080@180hz.

It seems like a nice screen but I just can't help but think that you're going to regret going 1080.
More importantly, it's way, way too soon to start planning for BF sales. My vote is wait for the actual sales then and see what's available and try to fit a higher resolution into that budget even if it means taking a slight hit on the gpu. For all you know, neither of those will be on sale or close to those prices, or worse, both could be out of production and stock by then.

Buy what you can, when you can.

[tp4tissue]

That sounds very lopsided.
You're wanting a 6950xt, but pairing with a 1080p screen? 

Beyond 75-100hz you start get diminishing returns, still better, just less and less better.
So unless you're playing CS, you're probably better off with 4k or 1440p@150hz than 1080@180hz.

It seems like a nice screen but I just can't help but think that you're going to regret going 1080.

This is the only monitor on the market with tune-able backlight strobe for adjusting pixel persistence for maximum motion clarity.

Its clarity performance is on par with the legendary sony fw900

[PlayBox]

That sounds very lopsided.
You're wanting a 6950xt, but pairing with a 1080p screen? 

Beyond 75-100hz you start get diminishing returns, still better, just less and less better.
So unless you're playing CS, you're probably better off with 4k or 1440p@150hz than 1080@180hz.

It seems like a nice screen but I just can't help but think that you're going to regret going 1080.

This is the only monitor on the market with tune-able backlight strobe for adjusting pixel persistence for maximum motion clarity.

Its clarity performance is on par with the legendary sony fw900

the 6950xt is a great buy though you have to get a good psu because it uses a lot of power. i too would reccomend a higher resolution monitor but i can see the reason to get this one

[Darthbaggins]

thinking $450 6950xt + viewsonic-XG2431 $150ish  on Blackfriday?

You can find that right now on r/Hardwareswap - by Black Friday more than likely the higher end 6*** series will be out of cycle/stores (I hope not, since it is still making AMD moolah).  Part of me is hoping to see a bigger dip in the 7900XT's pricing, since I am not buying into Nvidia's current price gouging practice.

[fohat.digs]

I am hoping that my Ryzen 5 with 16GB will carry me through at least a few more years running Mint.

[PlayBox]

I am hoping that my Ryzen 5 with 16GB will carry me through at least a few more years running Mint.

it should just fine depends on which one it is. but 32gb is starting to be a standard now so i would consider upgrading (its not expensive)

Wysłane z mojego Redmi Note 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka

[Leslieann]

I am hoping that my Ryzen 5 with 16GB will carry me through at least a few more years running Mint.

In Linux it should be okay, but not great.

I would imagine you will be able to pick up 16Gb used around Christmas this year for $25 or less.

[Leslieann]

thinking $450 6950xt + viewsonic-XG2431 $150ish  on Blackfriday?

You can find that right now on r/Hardwareswap - by Black Friday more than likely the higher end 6*** series will be out of cycle/stores (I hope not, since it is still making AMD moolah).  Part of me is hoping to see a bigger dip in the 7900XT's pricing, since I am not buying into Nvidia's current price gouging practice.

I thought about that but GPU sales are suuuuuper slow at the moment.
Should make for plenty of inventory to dump around the holidays.

[fohat.digs]

sales are suuuuuper slow at the moment.

inventory to dump around the holidays.

Why would they just sit on it for half a year?

[tp4tissue]

thinking $450 6950xt + viewsonic-XG2431 $150ish  on Blackfriday?

You can find that right now on r/Hardwareswap - by Black Friday more than likely the higher end 6*** series will be out of cycle/stores (I hope not, since it is still making AMD moolah).  Part of me is hoping to see a bigger dip in the 7900XT's pricing, since I am not buying into Nvidia's current price gouging practice.

I thought about that but GPU sales are suuuuuper slow at the moment.
Should make for plenty of inventory to dump around the holidays.

maybe they're expecting some new games to drive sales ?

[Rhienfo]

Sorta unrelated, but I was thinking of building a new computer, do you think that there would be a price hike, similar to how crypto jacked up the priced of gpus in like 2020-2021. Cause I don't want to have pay a scummy scalper to actually get the parts I want. It's not one of the new GPU releases (Most likely it will be a RX 6800xt) but it's still recent enough to where I'm worried about that.

[Leslieann]

Why would they just sit on it for half a year?

You're thinking like a normal person would. Nvidia doesn't give a sh*t about business norms.

AMD will drop prices to move inventory, Nvidia will not and so long as stuff is moving (even slowly) against Nvidia AMD has no incentive to do anything.
Nvidia REFUSES to lower prices, it's just how they operate. They'll delay 50 series or even destroy inventory rather than cut 40 prices, we actually saw this happen with 30 series overstock. They destroyed nearly a whole batch of gpu dies rather than let them go to board partners at reduced cost.

What you will see is Nvidia board partners offering free games as incentives and maybe minimalist cuts but since there's no new products coming (50 series I mean) at the moment I wouldn't expect much. Black Friday is pretty much the only time Nvidia loosens the reigns.

[Leslieann]

Sorta unrelated, but I was thinking of building a new computer, do you think that there would be a price hike, similar to how crypto jacked up the priced of gpus in like 2020-2021. Cause I don't want to have pay a scummy scalper to actually get the parts I want. It's not one of the new GPU releases (Most likely it will be a RX 6800xt) but it's still recent enough to where I'm worried about that.

The price hike already happened.
Todays prices are scalper prices, they just cut out the middle man.

Sure a 4060 still costs $300 just like the last gen 60 series but really the 4070 should be the 4060.
Don't forget, Nvidia initially tried to sell the 4070 as a cut down 4080.

Don't worry about actual scalpers, they lost out a while back. Store shelves are full of GPUs.

[tp4tissue]

We're at the applications bottleneck, games that look prettier aren't necessarily better games, the whole concept of gaming has reached saturation, it's the same games, new paint, and they're not really any more fun than they were.