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BF laptop guide 2020
« on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 10:26:40 »
So,  Hot picks this year seem to be the Ryzen 4500u (6core) for the $400-500 bracket. Very power efficient, decent GPU perf and usually has dual channel ram.  (drawback), crummy screens.

Also seeing 1650/1650ti intel combos, for $400- 600, ~7000 passmark. The lower $400-500 models have some really steep drawbacks like bad screens and single channel memory.

We're hoping for 1660ti / 2060 to get back to the $600-700 price bracket.

In the prior years in the $600-800 bracket, 2019, we've had 1660ti+8300/9300(intel), in 2017/18 we've had 1050ti/1060.

Peeps holding out for wallywurl doing something like 10xxx(intel) + 1660ti for $800ish
There's a remote possibility we see a 4800u in this range, but unlikely.

The higher bracket laptops arn't necessarily best deals around this time,  it could be around January when they go on peak-sale.


What to keep in mind:

On budget brackets,  They cheap out on the screen in MANY ways.

6-bit panels. Some even 120/144hz models are now 6bit panels, and these use the GPU dithering. They don't have internal 8-bit hardware dithers. The drawback is less texture fidelity (blurriness).

Gamut,  we're always worrying about this one, there are 4 general types,

-45%ntsc(60-70%srgb), the $400-500 bracket

-70%ntsc(93-98%srgb), You may hit it in the $400 bracket, but it's not guaranteed, $800 usually you get it
-93-95% Dcip3 (130-140%srgb), These are in the $1000+

-Adobe Gamut, These are specialized, not immensely popular/necessary.

Bitdepth and Gamut operate independently, 8 bit or 10bit, or 6 bit, does not guarantee the Gamut.




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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:14:09 »
I tried like 10 4xxx series laptops at the beginning of the semester, some with 1650 and some not. I didn't like any of them. Settled on a Lenovo Flex and am very happy with it.
My wife I a also push her button . But now she have her button push by a different men. So I buy a keyboard a mechanicale, she a reliable like a Fiat.

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:21:58 »
I tried like 10 4xxx series laptops at the beginning of the semester, some with 1650 and some not. I didn't like any of them. Settled on a Lenovo Flex and am very happy with it.

what didn't work the the 4xxx series ?

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:28:43 »
All the gaming laptops were too bulky, had a few bad apples (luckily bought from best buy and 14 day return period), **** battery life, etc. If I could have found a good 14" with a 4500u and no gpu at the time, I would have been all over it. This lenovo's screen, keyboard, battery, size, etc just got me. Believe me, I wanted to use an apu.

EDIT: It is this one:
https://www.staples.com/lenovo-flex-5-14iil05-81x1-14-notebook-intel-i5-16gb-memory-512gb-ssd-windows-10-81x1002tus/product_24435795

Got it for $550.
« Last Edit: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:34:00 by absyrd »
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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:38:42 »
anything w/ a discrete is gonna have worse batt life.

4500u' builds this year are mostly 1 piece.

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:41:00 »
I had little choice in August other than a 5lb gaming laptop for $1000. And the screens were ****tier.
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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 16:48:47 »
I had little choice in August other than a 5lb gaming laptop for $1000. And the screens were ****tier.

Apple M1 next ?

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 27 November 2020, 10:35:30 »
GDI,  Tp4 missed the ryzen 4700u HP laptop for $410.

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 27 November 2020, 10:37:17 »
GDI , took a nap, missed it. .

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 27 November 2020, 15:54:58 »
Wow. That is a helluva deal.
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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 27 November 2020, 16:00:25 »
Wow. That is a helluva deal.

It's back, you can order now..

4700u (8core/8thread) + 2x4gb (ddr4, 3200mhz)
Add seperately IPS panel + backlit keyboard + AC 2x2 wifi 6   Total $400


Reasonably sure this will be a 6-bit  70% srgb panel, but for the price, heck, close enough.

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 13:59:14 »
THere's a 4800h + 1660ti + 512ssd + 144hz 93% srgb ips  hp omen for $850 (new), 730(openbox) @ besby..

Ehh.... idk.. if 1660ti can cut cheese at this point, it proly can't even run Cyberupnk

Think the open box is a good deal...  This might need the liquid metal touch.. buhhhhh that's up to you guys.

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 17:51:40 »
Hoping there's some good deals on CPU coolers on Monday, maybe something Noctua. A 1070ti would be sweet but I doubt there will be any for around $200

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 18:55:38 »
Hoping there's some good deals on CPU coolers on Monday, maybe something Noctua. A 1070ti would be sweet but I doubt there will be any for around $200

are you sure you want a 10xx at this point?

Tp4 is looking out for 1080ti, but that's very specific for Video Playback.   3080 is best bang even if the 10xx price drops.

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Re: BF laptop guide 2020
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 19:29:31 »
Hoping there's some good deals on CPU coolers on Monday, maybe something Noctua. A 1070ti would be sweet but I doubt there will be any for around $200

are you sure you want a 10xx at this point?

Tp4 is looking out for 1080ti, but that's very specific for Video Playback.   3080 is best bang even if the 10xx price drops.


I would need an entire new comp and the 30xx series is stupid expensive. 1080ti is still way overvalued due to ******* btc miners, only other option is 2070S(this is the newest card my cpu can run) which is still pricey. That leaves the 1070ti as the only logical solution for my budget and hardware restrictions. It is literally the only option.