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Offline Deekin

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 12:24:50 »
I think for this kind of question the worth answer is from urself :) like u ask someone "should i choose thai food, western food or chinese food for my dinner?".
It's more like "Should I swim in the adult pool or the kiddie pool?".  :D

The kiddie pool, any day. Its so warm and cozy.

Offline mariusmssj

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 14:23:05 »
oh damn i just looked at some realforce torpe keyboards and their so expensive?? why? and are they better than normal mech keyboards?
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Offline karljs

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 15:11:43 »
oh damn i just looked at some realforce torpe keyboards and their so expensive?? why? and are they better than normal mech keyboards?

This is, unfortunately, a somewhat contentious question. The Topre boards are well-made, nice to type on, and have both a unique feel and sound. Are they fully twice as nice (justifying double the cost) as a Cherry-based alternative? No, but that's the nature of diminishing returns.

Offline mariusmssj

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 18:06:37 »
oh damn i just looked at some realforce torpe keyboards and their so expensive?? why? and are they better than normal mech keyboards?

This is, unfortunately, a somewhat contentious question. The Topre boards are well-made, nice to type on, and have both a unique feel and sound. Are they fully twice as nice (justifying double the cost) as a Cherry-based alternative? No, but that's the nature of diminishing returns.

well from what i saw they have same design as horrible rummer dome but with a spring, and you have bottom it out for the key to work. (Correct me if i am wrong)
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Offline skriefal

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 19:27:33 »
No, they use a capacitive switch that does not need to be bottomed-out to register.

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 19:32:23 »
oh damn i just looked at some realforce torpe keyboards and their so expensive?? why? and are they better than normal mech keyboards?

This is, unfortunately, a somewhat contentious question. The Topre boards are well-made, nice to type on, and have both a unique feel and sound. Are they fully twice as nice (justifying double the cost) as a Cherry-based alternative? No, but that's the nature of diminishing returns.

well from what i saw they have same design as horrible rummer dome but with a spring, and you have bottom it out for the key to work. (Correct me if i am wrong)
You are wrong. I'll correct you, so no worries :)
The spring acts as half the capacitance detector. What it does is follow the dome's travel downward, flattening out as it goes. As this happens, the capacitance between it and the PCB increases. After it's more than a threshold value, the key action is registered.

You don't have to bottom them out to get it to work. It's a rubber dome over capacitive sensor. Unlike normal "rubber dome over membrane" keyboards, it has NKRO.

I believe all the tactility comes from topre's dome, but I have also heard that it feel much better than a "normal" rubber dome keyboard.

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 20:03:11 »
That "bump" on the browns?  That's what lets you know exactly where the actuation point is.  Linear switches don't have that.  When you are touch-typing fast or if you are hitting the keys hard enough to bottom out,  then browns feel more or less exactly like reds.  The new switches do feel a bit "crunchy", but they smooth out after you've put a few hours in.  And blues are a super-fun clickity-clack experience.  I'd love to try clears or greens.

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 01 September 2012, 21:42:11 »
That "bump" on the browns?  That's what lets you know exactly where the actuation point is.  Linear switches don't have that.  When you are touch-typing fast or if you are hitting the keys hard enough to bottom out,  then browns feel more or less exactly like reds.  The new switches do feel a bit "crunchy", but they smooth out after you've put a few hours in.  And blues are a super-fun clickity-clack experience.  I'd love to try clears or greens.

I've purchased a single white switch recently and put in a blue spring and a red spring. the white switch with a blue spring and red spring feel identical to the brown. But with the original spring, it's way stiffer.

I don't like the browns, which is why i wanted to try the white switch to see if I can get the Blue feel without the click, but turns out that's not possible.

Blue has a special feel because the inner click mechanism slides across the base stem, and thus the activation leaf is not in contact with the base stem during the entire keystroke, which makes blue the least friction-y feeling switch

On the Red, Black, and Brown, the stem grinds against the metal leaf,

Offline mariusmssj

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Re: Best switches for Typing
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 02 September 2012, 12:53:33 »
oh damn i just looked at some realforce torpe keyboards and their so expensive?? why? and are they better than normal mech keyboards?

This is, unfortunately, a somewhat contentious question. The Topre boards are well-made, nice to type on, and have both a unique feel and sound. Are they fully twice as nice (justifying double the cost) as a Cherry-based alternative? No, but that's the nature of diminishing returns.

well from what i saw they have same design as horrible rummer dome but with a spring, and you have bottom it out for the key to work. (Correct me if i am wrong)
You are wrong. I'll correct you, so no worries :)
The spring acts as half the capacitance detector. What it does is follow the dome's travel downward, flattening out as it goes. As this happens, the capacitance between it and the PCB increases. After it's more than a threshold value, the key action is registered.

You don't have to bottom them out to get it to work. It's a rubber dome over capacitive sensor. Unlike normal "rubber dome over membrane" keyboards, it has NKRO.

I believe all the tactility comes from topre's dome, but I have also heard that it feel much better than a "normal" rubber dome keyboard.

Thanks for the info :)

I never knew keyboard could be so cool, i used to be all about CPU's GPU's and ect.

Well the last thing for my is to find a good keyboard with  red switches, I'm thinking of Filco ninja
CM Storm QuickFire Pro [MX RED]