Author Topic: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers  (Read 5239 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline amzee

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 16
Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:58:34 »
I recently got a set of the DSA retro caps, and I've been using them on my KBT Pure, and they work perfectly on the Cherry stabilizers, however, when I tried putting them on my QFR, the stabilizer inserts just fell out of the keys that needed them. Is there any way to make these caps fit the Costar stabilizers better?

Thanks!

Offline Photoelectric

  • * Administrator
  • Posts: 6766
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 19:02:22 »
I didn't have any issues putting DSA Retro caps onto my Filco.  Use some Teflon tape on top of the white plastic inserts before pushing them into the keycaps--that will keep the inserts firmly in when you put the caps onto the keyboard.  Also make sure the inserts go in in a proper orientation.
- Keyboards: LZ-GH (Jailhouse Blues)M65-a, MIRA SE, E8-V1, MOON TKL, CA66
- Keyboard Case Painting Tips -
- Join Mechanical Keyboards photography group on Flickr -

Offline rowdy

  • HHKB Hapster
  • * Erudite Elder
  • Posts: 21175
  • Location: melbourne.vic.au
  • Missed another sale.
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 20:55:57 »
Or even small squares (~1cm squre) of a plastic lunch bag works.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

Ị̸͚̯̲́ͤ̃͑̇̑ͯ̊̂͟ͅs̞͚̩͉̝̪̲͗͊ͪ̽̚̚ ̭̦͖͕̑́͌ͬͩ͟t̷̻͔̙̑͟h̹̠̼͋ͤ͋i̤̜̣̦̱̫͈͔̞ͭ͑ͥ̌̔s̬͔͎̍̈ͥͫ̐̾ͣ̔̇͘ͅ ̩̘̼͆̐̕e̞̰͓̲̺̎͐̏ͬ̓̅̾͠͝ͅv̶̰͕̱̞̥̍ͣ̄̕e͕͙͖̬̜͓͎̤̊ͭ͐͝ṇ̰͎̱̤̟̭ͫ͌̌͢͠ͅ ̳̥̦ͮ̐ͤ̎̊ͣ͡͡n̤̜̙̺̪̒͜e̶̻̦̿ͮ̂̀c̝̘̝͖̠̖͐ͨͪ̈̐͌ͩ̀e̷̥͇̋ͦs̢̡̤ͤͤͯ͜s͈̠̉̑͘a̱͕̗͖̳̥̺ͬͦͧ͆̌̑͡r̶̟̖̈͘ỷ̮̦̩͙͔ͫ̾ͬ̔ͬͮ̌?̵̘͇͔͙ͥͪ͞ͅ

Offline Lbeuol

  • Posts: 52
  • Location: United States
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:17:44 »
You could always just put some blu tack inside

Offline alaricljs

  • I be WOT'ing all day...
  • ** Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 3715
  • Location: NE US
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:30:17 »
It's not DSA, it's all SP caps. 

I used cut squares of the baggy the space bar came in.
Filco w/ Imsto thick PBT
Ducky 1087XM PCB+Plate, w/ Matias "Quiet Click" spring-swapped w/ XM Greens

Offline bazemk1979

  • Posts: 1625
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:52:37 »
put small piece of square tape on the white stabilizers inserts
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:02:50

When you bottom out dong cap... is it going balls deep?

Offline Hyde

  • Posts: 2643
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • White Tofu Extraordinaire
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:46:07 »
Saran wrap works for me.  But yes like everyone said, put something into the stem to increase its thickness until it fits basically lol.

Archiss ProgresTouch Retro - Gateron Yellow  |  Topre Realforce 104UW - 45g Silent  |  Topre Type Heaven  |  Beige Filco Ninja 104 - MX Red  |  Das Keyboard - MX Brown  |  Poker II - MX Red  |  Race II - MX Brown  |  Matias Quiet Pro - Matias Dampened ALPS  |  Logitech K840 - Romer G  |  Cherry MX Board 2.0 - MX Red  |  Cherry G84-4100 - ML  |  IBM Model M
Roccat Kone Pure  |  Logitech G203  |  Logitech G303  |  Logitech G302  |  Razer Naga  |  CM Storm Xornet  |  Razer Goliathus Mobile Stealth  |  Razer Goliathus Control  |  Artisan Hien  |  Artisan Hayate  |  Artisan Shiden

Offline Hak Foo

  • Posts: 1270
  • Make America Clicky Again!
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:47:49 »
It seems to be the problem is Costar stabilizers, not the caps.
Overton130, Box Pale Blues.

Offline hashbaz

  • Grand Ancient One
  • * Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 5057
  • Location: SF Bae Area
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:59:40 »
It seems to be the problem is Costar stabilizers, not the caps.

Nope, it's definitely the caps.  It's a well-known fact that Costar stabilizers are perfect.

Offline SmallFry

  • ** Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 3887
  • Location: Wisconsin, USA
  • Leaving 6/15; returning 6/22 or so.
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 00:05:02 »
I thought that DSA was very very tight, but perhaps that was just the PBT ones that came with an eDox, FWIW.

Offline Hyde

  • Posts: 2643
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • White Tofu Extraordinaire
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 00:44:59 »
The only issue that I'm aware of with Costar stabilizer is that the stabilizer wire grinds the front wall of enter key if you use Cherry profile.  Not sure if this is the case with DSA profile.

Archiss ProgresTouch Retro - Gateron Yellow  |  Topre Realforce 104UW - 45g Silent  |  Topre Type Heaven  |  Beige Filco Ninja 104 - MX Red  |  Das Keyboard - MX Brown  |  Poker II - MX Red  |  Race II - MX Brown  |  Matias Quiet Pro - Matias Dampened ALPS  |  Logitech K840 - Romer G  |  Cherry MX Board 2.0 - MX Red  |  Cherry G84-4100 - ML  |  IBM Model M
Roccat Kone Pure  |  Logitech G203  |  Logitech G303  |  Logitech G302  |  Razer Naga  |  CM Storm Xornet  |  Razer Goliathus Mobile Stealth  |  Razer Goliathus Control  |  Artisan Hien  |  Artisan Hayate  |  Artisan Shiden

Offline The_Beast

  • * Maker
  • Posts: 3964
  • Location: Wisconsin
  • I like wood ಠ_๏
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 00:47:28 »
I've had no problems with costar with DSA, imsto thicks, cherry DS or stock thin ABS.
Vendor Status: Sadly, not taking any orders/pre-orders at this time

Vendor Quick Links: | Vendor Forum | Hardwood Wrist Rests | Hardwood 60% Cases | Customer Gallery | Giveaway |

Offline Photoelectric

  • * Administrator
  • Posts: 6766
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:21:31 »
DSA is quite short in profile.  I'm thinking the wire grinds only with improper installation, because none of my keys with Costar stabilizers had this issue once the keycaps were properly and carefully installed.  If installed incorrectly, like with the little white plastic inserts backwards, the keys would stick.
- Keyboards: LZ-GH (Jailhouse Blues)M65-a, MIRA SE, E8-V1, MOON TKL, CA66
- Keyboard Case Painting Tips -
- Join Mechanical Keyboards photography group on Flickr -

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 13568
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 16:01:53 »
The only issue that I'm aware of with Costar stabilizer is that the stabilizer wire grinds the front wall of enter key if you use Cherry profile.  Not sure if this is the case with DSA profile.

not every enter key it depends on whether your enter key shrinks forward or shrinks backwards during cooling.

Offline Hyde

  • Posts: 2643
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • White Tofu Extraordinaire
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:24:55 »
The only issue that I'm aware of with Costar stabilizer is that the stabilizer wire grinds the front wall of enter key if you use Cherry profile.  Not sure if this is the case with DSA profile.

not every enter key it depends on whether your enter key shrinks forward or shrinks backwards during cooling.

Ahhhhhhhh I guess I got unlucky then  :(

Archiss ProgresTouch Retro - Gateron Yellow  |  Topre Realforce 104UW - 45g Silent  |  Topre Type Heaven  |  Beige Filco Ninja 104 - MX Red  |  Das Keyboard - MX Brown  |  Poker II - MX Red  |  Race II - MX Brown  |  Matias Quiet Pro - Matias Dampened ALPS  |  Logitech K840 - Romer G  |  Cherry MX Board 2.0 - MX Red  |  Cherry G84-4100 - ML  |  IBM Model M
Roccat Kone Pure  |  Logitech G203  |  Logitech G303  |  Logitech G302  |  Razer Naga  |  CM Storm Xornet  |  Razer Goliathus Mobile Stealth  |  Razer Goliathus Control  |  Artisan Hien  |  Artisan Hayate  |  Artisan Shiden

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 13568
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 00:29:26 »
The only issue that I'm aware of with Costar stabilizer is that the stabilizer wire grinds the front wall of enter key if you use Cherry profile.  Not sure if this is the case with DSA profile.

not every enter key it depends on whether your enter key shrinks forward or shrinks backwards during cooling.

Ahhhhhhhh I guess I got unlucky then  :(

just think of it as your caps having 'personality" :D

Offline Photoelectric

  • * Administrator
  • Posts: 6766
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 08:14:26 »
just think of it as your caps having 'personality" :D

- Keyboards: LZ-GH (Jailhouse Blues)M65-a, MIRA SE, E8-V1, MOON TKL, CA66
- Keyboard Case Painting Tips -
- Join Mechanical Keyboards photography group on Flickr -

Offline Lighthouse1

  • Posts: 138
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:19:21 »
Thanks for the tips, was having issues with the new DSA retro set space bar and enter key and the white inserts kept falling out; little bit of cling film worked wonders.

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 13568
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 11:57:08 »
Thanks for the tips, was having issues with the new DSA retro set space bar and enter key and the white inserts kept falling out; little bit of cling film worked wonders.

make sure you use a small enough piece, otherwise frilled edges of cling wrap could get caught between the white insert and stabilizer guide during key press which would cause mushiness and stickiness.

Offline Lighthouse1

  • Posts: 138
Re: Making DSA Caps fit Costar stabilizers
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 12:53:55 »
Thanks for the tips, was having issues with the new DSA retro set space bar and enter key and the white inserts kept falling out; little bit of cling film worked wonders.

make sure you use a small enough piece, otherwise frilled edges of cling wrap could get caught between the white insert and stabilizer guide during key press which would cause mushiness and stickiness.

Thanks, good tip.

I used a very tiny piece just enough to squash inside the actual insert with nothing sticking out and take the gap out of the equation. Keys appear to feel like they did before (well I prefer the flat typing on these keys, but the feel as you depress a key and the sound is the same as it was on the space bar, big enter etc).