People should be payed to exercise

[tp4tissue]

No one does anything they don't have to do..

NO BODY..

Health care currently costs 3 TRILLION DOLLARS a year..

This goes in the pocket of Pharmacon and Hospitals.

Thats   3  000  000  000  000

There are only 300 million americans

Thats   3  00    000   000



They should just give everyone 10 Thousand Dollars.. who signs up at the gym and gets on an exercise bike 40 minutes a day.. 260 Weekdays.

That's like 15.4x  1080Ti Graphics cards PER PERSON..

[tp4tissue]

Who wouldn't get on a bike for $38 tax free for 40 minutes..

[SpAmRaY]

I'd take that action, actually to get people to do it they'd need to introduce a gambling concept where you can roll the dice to double your money or something.

[tp4tissue]

I'd take that action, actually to get people to do it they'd need to introduce a gambling concept where you can roll the dice to double your money or something.

Welllll..... I'm not sure promoting a gambling system is good..


But,  if we want to expand the Gaming aspect..

We could for example..  automatically enter people into exercise lottery pools..

Or.... for example, for younger people,  give them a Bigger multiplied cash out reward for Online digital goods, like Dota skins, Overwatch skins..  Character Weapon Buffs..  So the more you exercise in real life,  The stronger your character is in game.. etc..


But of course, we don't know the effect this may have on gamers,  because if they get less "phat" and thereby become more attractive,   they might not play so much video games.. and try to get with the females.

[mogo]

There's very little as ego-boosting as being able to run a mile at a moment's notice, or show off visible abs and biceps, or having a great butt that shows in the right pair of jeans. I've worked at it for free, running on roads and trails and doing creative bodyweight exercise in my living room. It's one hell of a way to fend off low self-esteem and depression.

[noisyturtle]

It would certainly motivate me.

[dgneo]

There's very little as ego-boosting as being able to run a mile at a moment's notice, or show off visible abs and biceps, or having a great butt that shows in the right pair of jeans. I've worked at it for free, running on roads and trails and doing creative bodyweight exercise in my living room. It's one hell of a way to fend off low self-esteem and depression.

The only thing more ego boosting is bragging about it on a keyboard forum

[tp4tissue]

There's very little as ego-boosting as being able to run a mile at a moment's notice, or show off visible abs and biceps, or having a great butt that shows in the right pair of jeans. I've worked at it for free, running on roads and trails and doing creative bodyweight exercise in my living room. It's one hell of a way to fend off low self-esteem and depression.

That works for you, and it's great.

But we know it typically does not last..

EVENTUALLY,  you're married w/children, working the 9 to 5, living for the weekends, so you can bbq and pig-out..

Given the constraint and sudden elimination of vital payoffs to physical attractiveness, The Majority of once-fit individuals will Let themselves go..


If you're the exception , GREAT..

The majority of folks moving through life cycles, do not and WILL NEVER behave as you do.

[AuthenticDanger]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

[tp4tissue]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Ok..

This , is a money making Scam..

They're Betting that the average person who would take up a LOAN like that won't be motivated enough to work it off.

And because ultimately the loan is small..  They give up easily..


It's like a newage pay-day-loan.. hahahaha

I'm not sure if interest is involved in this..  but.. yea..  Wieghtloss is the right goal,  but This is not a valid solution. -- and I doubt it was meant to be..   It's probably designed as a trick much like how gym memberships operate.

[Waateva]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Yeah but they are just giving you a loan on two items.  I don't want a FitBit or an Apple Watch, I just want that $$$$$

[AuthenticDanger]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Yeah but they are just giving you a loan on two items.  I don't want a FitBit or an Apple Watch, I just want that $$$$$

You can sell them for cash...

[SpAmRaY]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Yeah but they are just giving you a loan on two items.  I don't want a FitBit or an Apple Watch, I just want that $$$$$

You can sell them for cash...

But realistically not nearly enough to motivate anyone those are relatively cheap items spread out over 24 months.

[tp4tissue]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Yeah but they are just giving you a loan on two items.  I don't want a FitBit or an Apple Watch, I just want that $$$$$

You can sell them for cash...

But realistically not nearly enough to motivate anyone those are relatively cheap items spread out over 24 months.

Exactly..

I want my god damn 15.4x  1080TI..

That will motivate me..

[Waateva]

A health insurance company, John Handcock (https://www.johnhancock.com/), is paying people to exercise. They are selling clients either a FitBit (free) or Apple Watch ($25) and then as long as you meet their exercise goals every month for 2 years, you don't pay them anything else for the fitness tracker. If you don't exercise, you pay a monthly fee. So they give you a loan, and you can work it off by being healthy.

Yeah but they are just giving you a loan on two items.  I don't want a FitBit or an Apple Watch, I just want that $$$$$

You can sell them for cash...

I'm assuming you need to be exercising and reporting that exercise via the device they give you, which means you can only sell once the contract is done?  So now you've got something that is 2 years old and used, so resale isn't going to be that great on it and is now outdated.

tp's example is a bit out there, as he is assuming 100% of the health care cost can be avoided by exercise and fitness which is simply not true.  BUT, if there was some sort of program that actually paid me cash to exercise, I would definitely be interested in that over some fitness-item loan.

[Leslieann]

But if everyone got healthy and was riding bikes, they might actually buy bikes (made in China of course) and want to ride to work like those socialist European countries (in Spandex... SPANDEX!). Now you have no highway taxes coming in, no car sales, bike lanes being built, the economy collapses, fire and brimstone, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...

[tp4tissue]

But if everyone got healthy and was riding bikes, they might actually buy bikes (made in China of course) and want to ride to work like those socialist European countries (in Spandex... SPANDEX!). Now you have no highway taxes coming in, no car sales, bike lanes being built, the economy collapses, fire and brimstone, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...

Bring it on..

Camping.. sounds nice.. !!

[9999hp]

As unlikely as that is to happen, it would be pretty awesome. As a 'murican I wish that is the kind of stuff we were sold (as an idea), instead of quick fixes and instantaneous satisfaction. Although fitness doesn't cure everything, it sure of a hell takes care of a lot. That and nutrition.

You don't have to work out or eat well every single day, but 3 times a week is doable and absolutely worth it. Now, if you're slammin' quarter pounders to make up for lost time...That isn't gonna work out.

I think automation would have to phase out most of the healthcare world though, and healthcare companies would have to realign their morals. So, maybe in a post-scarcity world.

4 hour workdays, choose your fitness shift. get 2 hours of fitness time that you choose. As long as you meet your avg bmi/weight/height ratio, you're in. Maybe a small standardized test once every month or quarter. Probably once a month, You pass? Cash out. You fail? better luck next time.

If they can figure out a UBI, might go along well with that. Added incentives for not lying around.