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Offline tp4tissue

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Halp! Someone Broke the Laser
« on: Tue, 02 February 2016, 03:50:11 »
Ok.. so ya'll see the dc supply on the right, i measured 24v, Solid..  So there's power

The two black stepper drive on the bottom are unpowered.. both indicators are off, if there were errors, both would have red lights, if no error, both should be green. SO......

It seems very unlikely that both steppers would die simultaneously.. which leads me to believe it's that middle board.

My guess something on that routing board died, maybe sabotaged, IDK, people are crazy.. Or possibly some components/traces cracked due to unusually cold weather..  This placement location is temporary so it's not heated or insulated.


Anyway..  Everything else seems to be working including the Laser itself.. and the Z-axis work table..


So.....  What do ya'll think,  assuming the drivers are not broken, if I just route some dc to it, It should work yea ?

The other side of the stepper says 20-50v dc.. so anything goes right?

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Offline joey

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Re: Halp! Someone Broke the Laser
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:02:19 »
You just need more electricity.

Offline Leslieann

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Re: Halp! Someone Broke the Laser
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:23:05 »
Most likely it's a loose wire or bad relay on the power distribution board, (bus?), I would re-seat every connector first (WITH THE SYSTEM OFF!). I've seen computer CPU's, drive connectors and memory unseat with a 50 degree F. temp change (warm house to cold car and back).

If the laser is coming on, it shows you have power for that line/voltage, the laser more than likely runs at a different voltage from everything else, make sure all necessary voltages are being supplied. Even if you have them all, it doesn't necessarily mean you have enough amps, the laser can fire with lower amps/watts than spec, see if it's firing with any power by seeing it it can punch through something.  That looks a cheap Chinese PSU, they are often under specc'd by 10-25% or more and if you pushed it, it may be supplying even less now.


It's confusing when you say "stepper", too many things are termed stepper, are you referring to the driver, the motor or the controller itself? You say the stepper has voltage, but what are you referring to? Also, not sure if it matters, but in the first pic, you have one led lit, and two in the second on the controller.

By the way, you said this was a temporary setup, one thing we were warned with on ours was that the laser itself could cause RF(?) interference with the controller or stepper drivers if it was too close to them without shielding, causing all sorts of oddities. I'm guessing yours has a bit less power, but the warning still stands.
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Re: Halp! Someone Broke the Laser
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 07:34:19 »
Sigh...   I knew it..  those dumb college kids broke it....

So the day before the 'Breakdown,   the sensor was affected by the cold, so the machine would get stuck on the zeroing-program during boot up..

Instead of turning the machine off,  those -know it all- college kids (electronics major) was diagnosing it while the laser head was stuck to the side.

That means it would've been using the maximum starting current, which is greater than the routing board is designed to handle continuously..

THUS,  that circuit must've been fried..


Then today..  I bypassed that by powering the drivers directly with the onboard 24v, but the machine started turning on and off..   clearly not enuff power..

So i ripped another dc supply off a weird machine that I have no idea what it does.. I think it's a display of some sort..


And now it works.. but still finicky if it gets cold..

sigh...............


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