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What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« on: Tue, 21 April 2020, 12:04:04 »
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 21 April 2020, 16:35:22 »
Aim with recurve bow and arrow. For sure.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 05:39:53 »
Aim with recurve bow and arrow. For sure.

Fletching too, unless you happen to have a stash of arrows.  Though tp4 has no need to shoot his veg...


I'd go with woodworking.  Whether you need shelter, a raised sleeping platform or just a place to put stuff it should surely come in handy.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 07:48:52 »
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 08:44:39 »
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 10:15:44 »
Aim with recurve bow and arrow. For sure.

Fletching too, unless you happen to have a stash of arrows.  Though tp4 has no need to shoot his veg...


I'd go with woodworking.  Whether you need shelter, a raised sleeping platform or just a place to put stuff it should surely come in handy.

How many people have recurve bows lying around? Is he going to make the bow too? I did take an archery course, many years ago. I'm not sure if that would be quite like riding a bike or not. At least the arrows are usually reusable a few times, many times if they're just field points. You would think compound and crossbows would be easier for most, though proper bolts may be harder to find, unless you do take up fletching. lol

I imagine the suggestion wasn't limited entirely to the taking of game. If it did come to such things, then we're also talking about a total breakdown of society, anarchy.

Since we're getting into that field, I'll mention what I first thought about when this thread started: firearm handling and maintenance. Ammunition is plentiful, and varied. I know I have already, in the past, ensured that I have multiple auxiliary firearms that fire ammunition that can be commonly found in retail stores, but may not necessarily be as popular as 5.56/.223, 7.62x39, or 9mm (as those would be the first to become scarce in a breakdown of society). You can carry a lot more of it than arrows. It reaches out further, with a flatter trajectory.

I would hope that it wouldn't come to any of that though.

If it does, maybe also identification of local flora that is edible, and what may not be, firemaking skills, etc.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 10:38:29 »
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:41:41 »
snaring small animals such as rabbits with wire to gut and cook them. many families survived on rabbit meat in the 1930s and later. growing food is obvious but often overlooked.
I grew up listening to my neighbour talk about the 30s he said they hadn't two half-pennys to rub together. so you'll need to be able to survive without spending money or engaging in crime (because you'll get killed). many said the cities were worse with poverty because you couldn't live like that. it was hardest on children because they couldn't work when their parents wouldn't feed them. at least in the country they could steal a turnip from a field to fill their bellies.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 16:33:33 »
snaring small animals such as rabbits with wire to gut and cook them. many families survived on rabbit meat in the 1930s and later. growing food is obvious but often overlooked.
I grew up listening to my neighbour talk about the 30s he said they hadn't two half-pennys to rub together. so you'll need to be able to survive without spending money or engaging in crime (because you'll get killed). many said the cities were worse with poverty because you couldn't live like that. it was hardest on children because they couldn't work when their parents wouldn't feed them. at least in the country they could steal a turnip from a field to fill their bellies.

Good points. I would hate to live in a big city. I can't think of any real benefits other than public transport, most everything else is a negative. Pollution, population, traffic, etc. It seems to me that the ideal would be living within a comfortable drive of the smallest community that has everything that you may need.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 17:57:38 »

I'd go with woodworking.

ammunition that can be commonly found

identification of local flora that is edible, and what may not be, firemaking skills, etc.


As for hunting, as macho as it is to think about bagging a creature that weighs more than you do, even preserving it without refrigeration is problematic.

Realistically, day in and day out, the most dependable quarry is probably birds. And a bow and arrow, or a good air rifle, that didn't scare away half the county with each shot, might be the the better way to go.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 20:08:52 »

I'd go with woodworking.

ammunition that can be commonly found

identification of local flora that is edible, and what may not be, firemaking skills, etc.


As for hunting, as macho as it is to think about bagging a creature that weighs more than you do, even preserving it without refrigeration is problematic.

Realistically, day in and day out, the most dependable quarry is probably birds. And a bow and arrow, or a good air rifle, that didn't scare away half the county with each shot, might be the the better way to go.

I would hope that nobody considers that to be macho. We're not just dealing with animals here, unfortunately. I would be more worried about bipedal threats in a breakdown of society.

I would imagine that for birds, most people would need at least a good compound bow with some decent sights, if using a bow. I think I would prefer a .22 with a suppressor, and go for squirrels. Though noise shouldn't matter at all other than drawing unwanted human attention towards you, and damaging your own hearing without protection.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 21:49:07 »
How to filter truth and bias when viewing any modern news source.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 24 April 2020, 09:04:48 »
How to filter truth and bias when viewing any modern news source.

Also knowing what is technically considered a news source by modern standards, and what is some random person on the internet's opinions on a social media site.

I think if we're dealing with foraging/survival circumstances, the news and social media may not be around anymore. Good riddance too.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 24 April 2020, 20:17:07 »
Aim with recurve bow and arrow. For sure.

Fletching too, unless you happen to have a stash of arrows.  Though tp4 has no need to shoot his veg...


I'd go with woodworking.  Whether you need shelter, a raised sleeping platform or just a place to put stuff it should surely come in handy.

How many people have recurve bows lying around? Is he going to make the bow too? I did take an archery course, many years ago. I'm not sure if that would be quite like riding a bike or not. At least the arrows are usually reusable a few times, many times if they're just field points. You would think compound and crossbows would be easier for most, though proper bolts may be harder to find, unless you do take up fletching. lol

Since we're getting into that field, I'll mention what I first thought about when this thread started: firearm handling and maintenance. Ammunition is plentiful, and varied.

I picked up a bow at a museum open day thing and first arrow went straight in the middle section, the next few weren't as impressive but none landed up on the floor.  This was at least 10 years after I'd last fired one and it wasn't a regular thing then so there is an element of 'bike riding'.  Or I missed my calling...

Related this is the only thing I've looked at that's remotely about archery yet for some reason ebay suggested I'd like this.  They aren't wrong - it's beautiful - but no idea if it's the right size or what strength pull I need and it's not exactly cheap.

There are no (legal) firearms here besides shotguns so they aren't an option.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:37:19 »
Aim with recurve bow and arrow. For sure.

Fletching too, unless you happen to have a stash of arrows.  Though tp4 has no need to shoot his veg...


I'd go with woodworking.  Whether you need shelter, a raised sleeping platform or just a place to put stuff it should surely come in handy.

How many people have recurve bows lying around? Is he going to make the bow too? I did take an archery course, many years ago. I'm not sure if that would be quite like riding a bike or not. At least the arrows are usually reusable a few times, many times if they're just field points. You would think compound and crossbows would be easier for most, though proper bolts may be harder to find, unless you do take up fletching. lol

Since we're getting into that field, I'll mention what I first thought about when this thread started: firearm handling and maintenance. Ammunition is plentiful, and varied.

I picked up a bow at a museum open day thing and first arrow went straight in the middle section, the next few weren't as impressive but none landed up on the floor.  This was at least 10 years after I'd last fired one and it wasn't a regular thing then so there is an element of 'bike riding'.  Or I missed my calling...

Related this is the only thing I've looked at that's remotely about archery yet for some reason ebay suggested I'd like this.  They aren't wrong - it's beautiful - but no idea if it's the right size or what strength pull I need and it's not exactly cheap.

There are no (legal) firearms here besides shotguns so they aren't an option.

Hitting a target with every arrow after having not fired one in a decade sounds pretty impressive in and of itself to me. How far away was it? How big around?

Yeah, that's a sweet-looking bow. No idea if it is worth that. You don't see a lot of recurves at all in the states outside of classes. Harder to keep drawn, less energy imparted on the arrow at a given draw weight.

Shotguns are great. Perfect for self defense, birds in flight, and even large game, depending on shells and choke tubes. Affordable too. I imagine there may be quite a few hoops to jump through in acquiring one though.

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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 06:44:45 »
I picked up a bow at a museum open day thing and first arrow went straight in the middle section, the next few weren't as impressive but none landed up on the floor.  This was at least 10 years after I'd last fired one and it wasn't a regular thing then so there is an element of 'bike riding'.  Or I missed my calling...

Related this is the only thing I've looked at that's remotely about archery yet for some reason ebay suggested I'd like this.  They aren't wrong - it's beautiful - but no idea if it's the right size or what strength pull I need and it's not exactly cheap.

There are no (legal) firearms here besides shotguns so they aren't an option.
Hitting a target with every arrow after having not fired one in a decade sounds pretty impressive in and of itself to me. How far away was it? How big around?

Yeah, that's a sweet-looking bow. No idea if it is worth that. You don't see a lot of recurves at all in the states outside of classes. Harder to keep drawn, less energy imparted on the arrow at a given draw weight.

Shotguns are great. Perfect for self defense, birds in flight, and even large game, depending on shells and choke tubes. Affordable too. I imagine there may be quite a few hoops to jump through in acquiring one though.

It wasn't a big setup, I was going to say 'only' 15 metres but having read around indoor target archery is 20 yards so could have been that.  This was a casual experience years ago so memory is fuzzy (starting to feel old :()

While all the gadgets on a compound undoubtedly make it easier and 'better' there's something about a traditional looking one piece wooden one that's more appealing.  Seems the bow linked is the right draw length (hardly surprising, I'm pretty average size) but it's really short for that draw (not sure what this means, generally I'm a fan of differentness) and 50lbs is heavy.  Heavy needs lats - and now I've moved from researching archery into fitness to see if I'm likely to have any...

Yes there are restrictions on shotguns, can't say I've looked into them as I live in a nice town so have no need of one.  Random fact:  Shotguns were my weapon of choice back when I played FPS.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:02:38 »
I picked up a bow at a museum open day thing and first arrow went straight in the middle section, the next few weren't as impressive but none landed up on the floor.  This was at least 10 years after I'd last fired one and it wasn't a regular thing then so there is an element of 'bike riding'.  Or I missed my calling...

Related this is the only thing I've looked at that's remotely about archery yet for some reason ebay suggested I'd like this.  They aren't wrong - it's beautiful - but no idea if it's the right size or what strength pull I need and it's not exactly cheap.

There are no (legal) firearms here besides shotguns so they aren't an option.
Hitting a target with every arrow after having not fired one in a decade sounds pretty impressive in and of itself to me. How far away was it? How big around?

Yeah, that's a sweet-looking bow. No idea if it is worth that. You don't see a lot of recurves at all in the states outside of classes. Harder to keep drawn, less energy imparted on the arrow at a given draw weight.

Shotguns are great. Perfect for self defense, birds in flight, and even large game, depending on shells and choke tubes. Affordable too. I imagine there may be quite a few hoops to jump through in acquiring one though.

It wasn't a big setup, I was going to say 'only' 15 metres but having read around indoor target archery is 20 yards so could have been that.  This was a casual experience years ago so memory is fuzzy (starting to feel old :()

While all the gadgets on a compound undoubtedly make it easier and 'better' there's something about a traditional looking one piece wooden one that's more appealing.  Seems the bow linked is the right draw length (hardly surprising, I'm pretty average size) but it's really short for that draw (not sure what this means, generally I'm a fan of differentness) and 50lbs is heavy.  Heavy needs lats - and now I've moved from researching archery into fitness to see if I'm likely to have any...

Yes there are restrictions on shotguns, can't say I've looked into them as I live in a nice town so have no need of one.  Random fact:  Shotguns were my weapon of choice back when I played FPS.

My recurve bow is 60 lbs IIRC, and it's no trouble at all to draw (even before I had ever lifted weights seriously), so 50 lbs should be no problem IMO. I've never shot anything besides a burlap target though so I can't speak to effectiveness of that poundage.
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Re: What are some Critical DIY skillz 2 master ?
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:11:46 »
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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 04:51:14 »
My recurve bow is 60 lbs IIRC, and it's no trouble at all to draw (even before I had ever lifted weights seriously), so 50 lbs should be no problem IMO. I've never shot anything besides a burlap target though so I can't speak to effectiveness of that poundage.
Hmm... a keyboard geek can pull 60 straight off but this guy can't pull 40 all day.  Count me confused

As with most things the best way to find out is surely to try it for yourself so in a couple of months if I'm still interested I should be able to.  Sounds like you're supposed to start light to learn technique then increase if you want/need to and I'm not planning to kill anything so probably no need.  Who wants a weedy weighted bow though...
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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 07:37:51 »

While all the gadgets on a compound undoubtedly make it easier and 'better'


With a conventional bow, it is just as hard to hold it as it is to draw it. With a compound bow, after it is drawn it takes much less strength to hold it, so in a hunting scenario you have a lot of time to frame and aim while waiting for the perfect moment.
 
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