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Offline tp4tissue

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Make Drump King?
« on: Wed, 04 June 2025, 11:04:41 »
The conundrum is this. We're at 430 ppm, 500 is doomsday, according to liberal scientists.

OK, ppm growth is accelerating rapidly.  We've got, 20-28 years till 500ppm. THAT's it, this is mankind's Last 2-3 decades to make any difference.



So, what has ultimately FUNDED-democratic-liberalism and its massive inefficiencies (in governance/decision cost). The truth is, CHEAP OIL, the things Liberals absolutely hate.  Democracies are hugely hugely inefficient at "fast" decision making.  Solving bigger problems require higher lvls of autocracy.   Solving bigger problems in less than 30 years, require  Dictatorship.

Tp4 is putting forth the argument that, while a Drump-Dictatorship would destroy life-styles/civil-ideology for the American middle class, there's probably NO WAY America can come together for meaningful long term decision making in the democratic experiment's current form.

Then, when cheap-oil inevitably ends, well, we'll be back to Autocracy anyway, but too late on the 30 year window.

It's impossible to pass bills, GOOD OR BAD in the current system, within the TIME-constraint. 



Now, you might ask, Tp4, why can't we have Emperor Bernie Sanders. Corporations rule America, they'd probably kill him by day 30.  If Drump is KING, we're not relying on Drump's decision making to mitigate climate change, we're relying on the Corporation's interest in self-preservation, no business to be done on a Dead-Planet.

Let the corporations rule, self-interest might actually save what's left,  Whereas ARGUING about what-to-do will kneecap decision making for the forseeable future.

Past performance, (look at our snail's pace history), is the best predictor of future behavior.

Where's our highspeed rail, where're our solar panels, how come we barely have electric cars. Major Civic projects have proven to only be possible under Near-autocratic conditions + Slavery.

Most of "America's" historically significant large civics were done under pressing conditions/war like/autocratic/planned economy/yield-curve-control



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Re: Make Drump King?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 04 June 2025, 12:02:59 »
People are not interested in hard solutions. They'd much rather stick their head in the ground and pretend nothing is going on. Rationality is not a factor here.

If it gets bad enough that even the biggest, most stubborn people really can't deny anymore that we're all gonna die, we might gain enough momentum to get something done. The question is whether it's too late by then or not.
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Re: Make Drump King?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 04 June 2025, 12:59:15 »
Let's clarify, there are still Mega-RISKs, under Drump dictatorship, living will be awful, gays/trans/minorities will be severely persecuted. American tech leadership could evaporate overnight as the Indian/Chinese go home, /are killed.

Black gang violence will intensify, potentially to civil war levels.

Those are "Risks though", "Not certainties",  as long as they don't kill the Asians, America will remain relevant technology side of things. But if they kill the Asians, we're done.


Remember, we are IN the 3rd-oil crisis, and we can't recycle the petro-Dollar this time, Central banks have already decided to de-dollar-fy, they've moved into GOLD/ Gold derivatives.

America's main export IS $Dollar Debt, we literally produce nothing else useful. Our current state of economy is the most severe form of the Dutch-Disease.

Under Democracy-AS-IS, nothing gets done, status quo, we go to 500ppm, no-agreement in sight,  $Dollar inflate.


The only other option would be to cut entitlements, medical, military,  Doesn't seem like anyone has appetite for that, so big-INFLATION and Yield curve control is our only monetary option.



The Tifffff with Putin is just ludicrously stupid, He's got diesel fuel, the true lifeblood of "economics."

So, going forward with Gold, they can say, Ok, 100barrels per ounce.  Who can stop them?

Did we manage to STOP the Russian economy?, with all the sanctions, we couldn't touch the Oil, it kept going. We've done next to no damage.

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Re: Make Drump King?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 04 June 2025, 13:29:58 »

We've done next to no damage.


We have done untold damage to ourselves.
And the long-term effects may well prove to be much worse than the short term effects, even if the Democratic Party sweeps the 2026 elections and works swiftly and diligently to repair the damage as best it can.

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That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
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Re: Make Drump King?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 June 2025, 13:34:04 »
We have done untold damage to ourselves.
And the long-term effects may well prove to be much worse than the short term effects, even if the Democratic Party sweeps the 2026 elections and works swiftly and diligently to repair the damage as best it can.

The democrat leadership is the root-cause of this self-damage. Endlessly starting wars/confrontation.

The American War machine is BIPARTISAN, only slightly worse under democrats.

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Re: Make Drump King?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 06 June 2025, 07:29:33 »
People are not interested in hard solutions. They'd much rather stick their head in the ground and pretend nothing is going on. Rationality is not a factor here.
There's also only so much the average person can do, it's the ultra wealthy and business owners who need to make it happen.
You can have all the best intentions but if there's no alternative offered you're sort of stuck.

The only time business owners like change is when they're the one running the disruptive startup.
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