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Offline HoffmanMyster

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 07:44:36 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

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which is why i don't vote

PLEASE VOTE !

A vote not cast is a very real vote FOR the Republican status quo and worse.

Whose vision of the future do you prefer?

People who do not vote are the ones who enable the Evil Ones to maintain control !

Why doesn't EVERYONE recognize this?

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 07:52:14 »
It matters not who is in the White House in any case. That person is only a figurehead. Banks and other corporations run the US as it is, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

qft

which is why i don't vote

PLEASE VOTE !

A vote not cast is a very real vote FOR the Republican status quo and worse.

Whose vision of the future do you prefer?

People who do not vote are the ones who enable the Evil Ones to maintain control !

Why doesn't EVERYONE recognize this?

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Can't tell if sarcastic...

I think everything after "PLEASE VOTE!" is meant to be sarcastic.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 07:57:17 »
Can't tell if sarcastic...

Absolutely not sarcastic.

Bangladesh has considerably higher voter turnouts than the US.

If you want a president like Rubio, Cruz, Santorum, another Bush Jr, etc, then vote for for him. If you want somebody better, the choice is yours.

Just make a choice, whatever you do, don't remain silent.

This attitude really makes me despair over the younger generations.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 08:02:04 »
Can't tell if sarcastic...

Absolutely not sarcastic.

Bangladesh has considerably higher voter turnouts than the US.

If you want a president like Rubio, Cruz, Santorum, another Bush Jr, etc, then vote for for him. If you want somebody better, the choice is yours.

Just make a choice, whatever you do, don't remain silent.

This attitude really makes me despair over the younger generations.

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My friends have seriously been pissing me off when they say they don't care about the elections.

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 08:09:18 »
Can't tell if sarcastic...

Absolutely not sarcastic.

Bangladesh has considerably higher voter turnouts than the US.

If you want a president like Rubio, Cruz, Santorum, another Bush Jr, etc, then vote for for him. If you want somebody better, the choice is yours.

Just make a choice, whatever you do, don't remain silent.

This attitude really makes me despair over the younger generations.

Alright, I have one major beef with this mindset.  If you want to tell people they should vote, great.  That's awesome.  I think we should all vote too.

But please, educate yourself.  I cannot believe how many people vote that have no freaking clue what they're voting for, other than a name.

If you don't know what or who you're voting for, please do not vote.

But that's just my opinion.  ;)  Other people will tell you it's your "civic duty" to vote, regardless...   :rolleyes:

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 08:14:52 »
Being one of those young people not caring about elections.

I'll give you my point. When I was allowed to vote (18yo here), I  made a lot of researchs because I wanted my vote to have a sense.

But once I dig up, I realized it's just theater, they all grow up in the same rich neighboorhood, went to similar school and are basicly friends outside of the visual and oral distraction that is medias.

I still go to vote everytime (mayor, regional, presidential) to cast a blank vote.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 08:15:37 »
Can't tell if sarcastic...

Absolutely not sarcastic.

Bangladesh has considerably higher voter turnouts than the US.

If you want a president like Rubio, Cruz, Santorum, another Bush Jr, etc, then vote for for him. If you want somebody better, the choice is yours.

Just make a choice, whatever you do, don't remain silent.

This attitude really makes me despair over the younger generations.

Alright, I have one major beef with this mindset.  If you want to tell people they should vote, great.  That's awesome.  I think we should all vote too.

But please, educate yourself.  I cannot believe how many people vote that have no freaking clue what they're voting for, other than a name.

If you don't know what or who you're voting for, please do not vote.

But that's just my opinion.  ;)  Other people will tell you it's your "civic duty" to vote, regardless...   :rolleyes:

Voting is a right, not a duty.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 08:31:24 »

If you don't know what or who you're voting for,


This goes to the heart of it.

"Who" you vote for is not nearly as important as "What" you vote for.

By promoting the attitude that "all available candidates are **** and/or hopelessly defective" (90% true) the far more important concept of voting for policies and ideals gets de-railed.

Don't vote for "X" name person - vote for whoever represents the vision for the future that you hope for.

Until a couple of decades ago, "negative campaigning" was looked down on as ineffective because it created ill feelings towards the accuser, but nowadays, raised to a far higher level, it is extremely effective by causing such disgust in decent people (and most especially the young) that they often just stay away for fear of becoming tainted just by merely participating in the process.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:02:20 »
I don't know who will win the nomination from each party, but this will without a doubt be one of the most boring elections in quite some time. Unless something wild happens, I predict record low turnout.

Maybe "unexciting" isn't such a bad thing, though. Maybe it will calm down the bipartisan-ship.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:15:41 »
all Republicans and southerners are racist
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:17:01 »
all Republicans and southerners are racist
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Good thing I moved north. :rolleyes:

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:20:42 »

all Republicans and southerners are racist
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:21:43 »
Yay I'm so glad to be part of such a bigoted community.
As long as we have each other we can make it through fellow southern bro :-*

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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:25:34 »
You know what's a great way to make it feel like your vote means absolutely nothing, especially in a non-swing state?  The electoral college.  :))


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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:45:46 »
The problem with the US election system is that it is a fixed two-party system. There is no way for a third party candidate to win a general election. Witness my vote for Ross Perot in 1992, which helped get that clown from Arkansas elected to office. Now his wife wants the job again, when she already ran the country for 8 years, while her husband was off sticking his penis in every hole he could find. I really don't think we need a repeat of those years.

So functionally, everyone has to fit their ideals into one of two camps. Someone like me, a libertarian, gets labeled a "Republican," and by extension gets all the labels the media has attached to that party. I just want the government to leave me the **** alone. And also to remember that, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." I vote for Republican Party candidates simply because their policies more closely align with my libertarian philosophy than do those of the Democrat Party candidates. But seemingly I'm an evil redneck, elitist, bigoted racist because I choose not to vote for socialists. Go figure.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:54:24 »
Such oppression. How do you guys live?
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 11:09:51 »
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 16:30:40 »
But seemingly I'm an evil redneck, elitist, bigoted racist because I choose not to vote for socialists.

You forgot Luddite, that is the huge problem with the concept "conservative" in the modern age.

Socialism is by orders of magnitude the lesser of the evils.
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Re: The USA Presidential Election
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:20:54 »
But seemingly I'm an evil redneck, elitist, bigoted racist because I choose not to vote for socialists.

You forgot Luddite, that is the huge problem with the concept "conservative" in the modern age.

Socialism is by orders of magnitude the lesser of the evils.


Socialism is an eventuality,  When everyone receives the same quality education..  The rich will have an impossible time farming the poor..


You may say.. Hai Tp,  everyone in developed countries get a pretty good education, how come we're not socialist..


The reason is,  Developed countries are in the largest sense farming the Rest of the poor world through predatory lending.


That is what fundamentally maintains the income gap of the 0.01 percent.


When EVERY person of every country gets to go to skool..  There's nothing left BUT socialism.