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Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« on: Sat, 06 May 2017, 13:50:55 »


Day 3 with Gigabit..

on Speed test..

950Mbit  ~118.8 Megabyte/s   download

880Mbit  ~110 Megabyte/s          upload



HOWEVER..  Because Tp4's router is too slow,  Torrents push 100% Router CPU load..

Tp4 haz the n66u w/  Broadcom BCM4706 (600 MHz) single core cpu.

The current maximum rate on Torrents, is 712Mbit ~ 89 Megabyte/s




167861-2




If haz a router with 5 to 10x more CPU power,  can safely saturate the entire 950Mbit connection.

At the moment, To even reach 712Mbit on torrents, Tp4 needs to artificially limit the connection to very low numbers.. 10-20 per torrent, no more than 300 overall.




Maybe try Overcrok N66u ?



Looking at the Nighthawk x4s with Dual core 1.7ghz..  ~5x as powerful @ $160

Quad core 1.7ghz router seems kind of expensive ~10x as powerful  @ $400 





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Re: Gigabit, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 06 May 2017, 16:43:38 »

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Re: Gigabit, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 06 May 2017, 17:44:41 »
Just tried the Overclock..

No go..  only 10% overclock is possible on the n66u..

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 07 May 2017, 13:06:59 »
The Webz-of-Inter have not caught up to TP's 1337 iNet connection!

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 14:05:19 »
What router is everyone using...


Any recommendations ?

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 17:10:26 »
Keep in mind, MOST servers on the web, and even fewer people have more than a 100meg connection, and in the case of servers, that bandwidth needs to be divided up among the people connecting, and if the server hosts multiple websites, it gets further divided. My company web server is on a 10meg connection shared by several dozen sites. Then you have bandwidth shaping as well.

So while you may have a gigabit connection, the times you can truly take complete advantage of it are really not all THAT common for the average person.
It won't help your ping in games and it won't help your streaming if you have a greater than an 8meg connection already (barring other people sharing said connection). (compared to anything over 8meg or so ).


As for routers, I have an N66U, same as TP, which has run fantastic since I got it several years ago. It's one of the best routers I have ever used in terms of reliability, especially over time. Most routers under the load I subject them too start showing issues after a year, sometimes less either due to heat/abuse, poor design, or faulty power systems.

The companies I recommend are Buffalo, Asus, and Linksys, but they have been passed around like a library book, so you don't know how good they are anymore. Netgear is hit or miss, sometimes they under spec the power supplies so they don't last. and I don't have enough experience with TP Link and with the new laws about power output, they essentially locked down their routers. Also, don't buy anything you can't install different firmware on, with luck, you won't need it, but you want the option. If it's not listed here, I won't buy it, too many bad experiences with them.

Oh, and another thing to avoid... cloud based (Cisco and Google). While I have a customer with the Asus based Google router, which works AMAZINGLY well so far (REALLY good coverage) and the cloud system works well for them (non-techs), I wouldn't go near it with a 10 foot pole for myself. Sure they can disable the kids access from a cell phone, but it spies on you, and you shouldn't need to be online to change a firewall setting. It's just a massive vulnerability hole you shouldn't have. And no, there is no local access to control it, I checked, in fact there isn't even a way to access it from a desktop, you have to use an phone app. If I could load it with DD-WRT or Asus firmware, it would rock, but as it is, no way in hell.
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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:01:16 »
My God,  I've ran out of harddrive space in the course of 1 week with gigabit..

filling up 15 Terabyte  of my spare capacity.. 


Do not currently haz any Ramen Money saved to buy m0ar harddrives.




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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:48:30 »
My God,  I've ran out of harddrive space in the course of 1 week with gigabit..

filling up 15 Terabyte  of my spare capacity.. 


Do not currently haz any Ramen Money saved to buy m0ar harddrives.



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good to see your one step closer to your goal of capturing every pron video for future preservation

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:03:38 »
My God,  I've ran out of harddrive space in the course of 1 week with gigabit..

filling up 15 Terabyte  of my spare capacity.. 


Do not currently haz any Ramen Money saved to buy m0ar harddrives.



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good to see your one step closer to your goal of capturing every pron video for future preservation


hahahahahaha.. Glad you haz so much faith in Tp..

Alas..  Currrrently in the most popular online tracker I believe contains 777 Terabytes of material..


Tp does not have that kind of drive space..



It would take you approximately 172666.66 hours to watch all that material..  ~7194 days straight,  assuming you watch 16 hours per day,  it would take you 29.6  YEARS to watch it all.

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:21:55 »
My God,  I've ran out of harddrive space in the course of 1 week with gigabit..

filling up 15 Terabyte  of my spare capacity.. 


Do not currently haz any Ramen Money saved to buy m0ar harddrives.



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good to see your one step closer to your goal of capturing every pron video for future preservation


hahahahahaha.. Glad you haz so much faith in Tp..

Alas..  Currrrently in the most popular online tracker I believe contains 777 Terabytes of material..


Tp does not have that kind of drive space..



It would take you approximately 172666.66 hours to watch all that material..  ~7194 days straight,  assuming you watch 16 hours per day,  it would take you 29.6  YEARS to watch it all.

You got this. I believe in you. Remember this is your purpose, the reason you are roonery

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:37:49 »


You got this. I believe in you. Remember this is your purpose, the reason you are roonery

Hahahhaahhaa.. it's 29.6 years assuming no new material is made..   It's virtually impossible to watch alllllll of it..


Unless they invent time machines,, so I could send my self back in time, and watch multiple instances simultaneously..


But this would have to be a universe operating by the rules whereby the time traveling being would acquire the memory of parallel entities from all timelines..

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 17:16:27 »


You got this. I believe in you. Remember this is your purpose, the reason you are roonery

Hahahhaahhaa.. it's 29.6 years assuming no new material is made..   It's virtually impossible to watch alllllll of it..


Unless they invent time machines,, so I could send my self back in time, and watch multiple instances simultaneously..


But this would have to be a universe operating by the rules whereby the time traveling being would acquire the memory of parallel entities from all timelines..

four screens further divided into four segments.

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 17:40:49 »


You got this. I believe in you. Remember this is your purpose, the reason you are roonery

Hahahhaahhaa.. it's 29.6 years assuming no new material is made..   It's virtually impossible to watch alllllll of it..


Unless they invent time machines,, so I could send my self back in time, and watch multiple instances simultaneously..


But this would have to be a universe operating by the rules whereby the time traveling being would acquire the memory of parallel entities from all timelines..

four screens further divided into four segments.



oooooo... we need that 30 screen @ 120   per session..

cut the time to .. only 3 months..

That's certainly do -able..

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 18 May 2017, 10:39:51 »
Week 2 with Gigabit..


What is so different about 85Mbit vs 950Mbit..


Torrents are much faster obviously..

But also anything Transitional on the Internet is also snappier.



For example,  There were times in the past where If some transfers were running, a Youtube video would take a second to load up, the computer would throttle back transfer bandwidth and give it to youtube, and the video would start playing.

But with Gigabit,  the Pipe is rarely saturated..

So that's nice..



Overall the Internet is a much Smoother experience now..

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 27 June 2017, 13:42:06 »
Update..

Gigabit  DRIVE requirements.


So what happens with large Torrents @ gigabit speeds is , it becomes a case of Random i/o as the torrent is writing all over the drive across a large span of the platter.

Typically Harddrives are only going to do ~ 10 to 15 MB/s of this type of 2MB-4MB writes..


You HAVE TO HAVE an SSD to take advantage of Gigabit Torrenting..


When the speed goes above 15MB/s on torrents,  an HDD will thrash if it's across a ~100gb files size section.


So a 512GB SSD is really the minimum you will need if you ever work with large torrents.





If you don't have an SSD, what will happen is, the drive will overload,  then the torrent client will fill up its memory allotment, in the case of 2.2.1 utorrent will just freeze up.


MAYBE newer torrent clients won't freeze like 2.2.1,  however, if you fill the memory allotment, the download link will drop, and needs to be re-established once at least a section of the write queue completes.

On a large torrent, this would add DAYS worth of just connection time..   So it's not a hands off experience..


SSD is a must.   You really have no choice..

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:52:57 »
Change your disk caching.
Also, doing what you are doing, to an ssd, is murder on an ssd. SSD's hate chaching files, it's a waste of write cycles.

Force the torrent program to use your ram, then only write large chunks to the drive instead of small chunks.
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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:58:54 »
Change your disk caching.
Also, doing what you are doing, to an ssd, is murder on an ssd. SSD's hate chaching files, it's a waste of write cycles.

Force the torrent program to use your ram, then only write large chunks to the drive instead of small chunks.



I'm against NOT USING my ssds..  because I've had this particular one for 7 years.. only 22TB written..


96% wear level left..  So..... if I don't hurry up and wear this thing out,  I'll never get my money's worth BEFORE I DIE..


SSDs don't have to be babied outside of the datacenter.

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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 00:49:05 »
I agree with not babying them, but I also don't agree with abusing the poor things.
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Re: Gigabit Internet, whaddup wit dat Tp ?
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:21:04 »
I agree with not babying them, but I also don't agree with abusing the poor things.


I used 4% wear level in 7 years. (22TB)

I have 96% left

96/4 *7  = 168 years..


I know this vegan thing I'm doing is going to give me a few more years,  but not up to 168..

hahahahahahahah


Assuming Tp4 lives to 80y,   I have to burn at least TRIPLE the rate..    It's only too bad I have so many SSDs over so many computers..    This is very stressful..