Is scratchyness a flaw with MX?

[asgeirtj]

Long time MX user here. I use Zealios because I think they are the smoothest MX, however, at least with tactile switches, there seems to be the issue of stratchyness. This is fixed mostly with lubing, but I think lubing goes away in about a year, and I can't be bothered to lube my boards so often. Does anyone experience something similar? Topre is smooth as a butter imo but the feeling is not to my taste. Even regular rubber dome is smoother, but it is mushy of course. I think MX is best because of customization, I think this is the only flaw with it, I wonder if there is some solution?

[Auk]

Scratchy feeling MX is complained about more and more I noticed. It's interesting that this now appears:

     CHERRY switches have NEW stems, supersmooth!

Also the recent iterations of Kailh switchs are often claimed to be smoother.

Perhaps Cherry's tooling was simply end of life, worn out and long overdue for refresh?

[asgeirtj]

Scratchy feeling MX is complained about more and more I noticed. It's interesting that this now appears:

     CHERRY switches have NEW stems, supersmooth!

Also the recent iterations of Kailh switchs are often claimed to be smoother.

Perhaps Cherry's tooling was simply end of life, worn out and long overdue for refresh?

I assume the new cherry's are now as smooth as zealios?

[zslane]

My MX silent reds are not smoother than my MX reds, nor are they smoother than the Gateron reds in my Varmilo boards. Take that for what you will. On that basis, I'm not convinced that newer MX switches are any smoother than older ones.

[ygor]

My MX silent reds are not smoother than my MX reds, nor are they smoother than the Gateron reds in my Varmilo boards. Take that for what you will. On that basis, I'm not convinced that newer MX switches are any smoother than older ones.

Weird... From my experience I can say that the MX Speed Silvers are a million times smoother than my old MX Reds. My Reds are scratchy af, but these Silvers are smooth as buttah, baby.

/shrug

[romevi]

I've had older tactile grays and newer tactile grays, and the newer ones definitely are smoother than my old ones.

[Entropia]

The black switches on my Leopold FC980M are very very different from the black switches I have in my older Tesoro Durandal. The scratchyness is all gone and they are butter smooth.

[chyros]

It is with linear MX switches.

[Auk]

It is with linear MX switches.

I wasn't overly impressed with any of the black, red or brown on the 2016-2017 switch tester I tried, all were scratchy inc. the brown. I have noughties era mx black which are fine, but the green was the only one I liked from the tester.

I haven't tried any silver, silent or Kailh as yet.

[tp4tissue]

it smooths out..  get typing,

[chyros]

It is with linear MX switches.

I wasn't overly impressed with any of the black, red or brown on the 2016-2017 switch tester I tried, all were scratchy inc. the brown. I have noughties era mx black which are fine, but the green was the only one I liked from the tester.

I haven't tried any silver, silent or Kailh as yet.

Brown is terrible, but the lack of smoothness isn't even its biggest problem xD .

Basically all types of Cherry MX have different problems .

[Puddsy]

It is with linear MX switches.

I wasn't overly impressed with any of the black, red or brown on the 2016-2017 switch tester I tried, all were scratchy inc. the brown. I have noughties era mx black which are fine, but the green was the only one I liked from the tester.

I haven't tried any silver, silent or Kailh as yet.

Brown is terrible, but the lack of smoothness isn't even its biggest problem xD .

Basically all types of Cherry MX have different problems .

pretty much every switch has some problem

there is no perfect switch

everything is subjective

[davkol]

everything is subjective

Geez. I really dislike the explicit postmodernism…

[ImpendingxDoom]

"Tactile Feedback"

[ɔiɈɘʜɈƨ∍∀]

I can agree topre is the smoothest tactile, I also do not want to be relubing my switches so often so my mx style choice switch is a bumble bee I made , ultrasonic cleaned vintage blacks with gateron yellow housings and modern mx tops lubed with krytox.butter just butter

[ander]

Ack, this whole "scratchiness" thing [note spelling], anyway... Someone started saying that and everyone just copied them.

Cherry's been making switches for a long, long time. And they're Germans, f'God's sake—believe me, they're into precision. They way their switches feel is exactly how they want them to feel. If you don't like them, don't use them. But they're not "scratchy"; they just are how they are—exactly how they are. You dig?

[chyros]

Ack, this whole "scratchiness" thing [note spelling], anyway... Someone started saying that and everyone just copied them.

Cherry's been making switches for a long, long time. And they're Germans, f'God's sake—believe me, they're into precision. They way their switches feel is exactly how they want them to feel. If you don't like them, don't use them. But they're not "scratchy"; they just are how they are—exactly how they are. You dig?

Cherry is not a German company.

[ygor]

Ack, this whole "scratchiness" thing [note spelling], anyway... Someone started saying that and everyone just copied them.

Cherry's been making switches for a long, long time. And they're Germans, f'God's sake—believe me, they're into precision. They way their switches feel is exactly how they want them to feel. If you don't like them, don't use them. But they're not "scratchy"; they just are how they are—exactly how they are. You dig?

Is this a troll post? I can't tell anymore.

[czarek]

I'd say Alps are more prone to scratchyness due to the way the switch is designed. Can be easily observed when trying abused Alps vs abused Cherry. When new it all depends on manufacturing quality, which with some new batches of MX is not ideal. Although Gateron easily shows that MX can be made super smooth. Also Cherry shown it many times with old (vintage) MX Black switches or more recently with Silent MX Black and Red switches which are very smooth.