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Offline trashboy

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Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« on: Fri, 27 October 2017, 23:52:50 »
Hi guys... I used to consider myself a keyboard enthusiast but yikes.. after coming back to buy a new board I have no idea wtf is going on anymore. I went on /r/mechmarket trying to find a new TKL, and when I was looking through the post titles I didn't even know what was a keyboard and what wasn't...

I'm just looking for a good, solid board. I saw a couple topics (QFR of today, Filco build quality, Ducky, etc...), but am still a little stuck on where I wanna go. I had a Poker II, a Ducky One TKL, and a QFR Rapid back in the day. I'm just down to the Ducky now, and gotta say that I'm kinda dissapointed. Just a little bit over a year of it's lifespan, it broke, and the arrow keys don't seem to work. Also, some buttons keep repeating and will trigger other letters (ex: typing 't' actually types 'tr'). I wanted to get it warrantied, and Ducky said they couldn't do anything, as I was outside the warranty period.

I'm not into features, or looks, or anything like that. I just want a solid, strong keyboard that I can use for years. I think what I may want is a Filco? The high price tag kind of puts me off though, as Ducky was supposed to be a sturdy keyboard.

TL:DR; Whats the strongest TKL you can think of in the ~100$ price range?

Ty.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 00:05:25 »
Ducky One TKL is in that price range. Decent. For 50 bucks more you could get a KBD75 tho. Different layout but I think it's a better board. Price is unbeatable for the quality IMO.
I generally hate all keycaps. Keycaps are for poofs. Real men touchtype on stems. Non-functional artisans are awesome, I use them for the ESC key ... escape is for cowards anyways, real men go frontal assault.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 01:50:49 »
Leopold.

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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 02:07:24 »
Just wait till you go to pick a switch.   :))
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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 02:11:39 »
Just wait till you go to pick a switch.   :))

i disappeared for a year and suddenly there were like 40 options and i was confused

Leopold.

pretty much

all the old standard brands are good, but leopold has really upped their game with the 750R
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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 09:21:49 »
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Ducky, CM, WASD, Filco, and Leopold are probably top 5 stock makes.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 10:34:33 »
Guys, and gals I'm sure there are a few, when buying from mechanicalkeyboards can you PLEASE write  reviews.  Amazon's products are well reviewed, but most of the boards here have zero, and I know a LOT of people are buying here.
I like to hear things like "short cable," or "rattling stabilized keys", "quiet," "DOA," etc.  Thank you  ;D
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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 15:36:57 »
I don't put Amazon's reviews in that high regard. The reviews that Amazon shows for a product are often not for that exact product but for a similar one ...
I have also seen reviews for DVDs before the movie has even come out on DVD/BluRay yet.

I'm just down to the Ducky now, and gotta say that I'm kinda dissapointed. Just a little bit over a year of it's lifespan, it broke, and the arrow keys don't seem to work. Also, some buttons keep repeating and will trigger other letters (ex: typing 't' actually types 'tr'). I wanted to get it warrantied, and Ducky said they couldn't do anything, as I was outside the warranty period.
I think there might be only a glitch on the PCB that could be repaired.
« Last Edit: Sat, 28 October 2017, 15:41:51 by Findecanor »
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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 28 October 2017, 16:12:51 »
I don't put Amazon's reviews in that high regard. The reviews that Amazon shows for a product are often not for that exact product but for a similar one ...
I have also seen reviews for DVDs before the movie has even come out on DVD/BluRay yet.

It's also full of paid/fake reviews.
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| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
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w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
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Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
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Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 13:59:16 »
If I was in the market for a TKL, I might pick up the glorious gaming:
https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-modular-mechanical-pc-gaming-keyboard-tenkeyless-tkl-87-key-gateron-cherry-kailh-switches?variant=43850261006

60 bucks with no switches or keycaps.  It's a hot-swappable pcb so you can change switches without desoldering.

I haven't owned one, but I've heard good things about the full-size version.  A friend of mine has one so I've seen it in person, seems to be good build quality.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 18:26:34 »
for the $100 budget, might I suggest the CM MasterKeys line. Solid boards w/ Cherry stabilizers.

otherwise, yeah... Leos are where it's at

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 01:47:05 »
Get a cheap Chinese clone board. There is no way that major brands can compete with that.
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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 09:10:31 »
I'm just down to the Ducky now, and gotta say that I'm kinda dissapointed. Just a little bit over a year of it's lifespan, it broke, and the arrow keys don't seem to work. Also, some buttons keep repeating and will trigger other letters (ex: typing 't' actually types 'tr'). I wanted to get it warrantied, and Ducky said they couldn't do anything, as I was outside the warranty period.

Welcome to Mechanical Keyboards.  You are around two decades too late if you wanted something that will last.

Enjoy your stay.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:19:44 »
Strongest tkl?  IBM SSK--but it's going to be north of the $100 mark.

But if you think of it as an investment, it will never go down only up even as you get to use it.  Not many investments have that type of return.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:20:46 »
What about DAS keyboards? The TKL was for 99$ if I am not wrong. It's pretty solid. Have been using it for 6 months now and have changed keycaps like thrice. It is heavy, no flex, long cable and overall just a sturdy keyboard.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 08:21:20 »
I haven't tried a DAS, but that definitely sounds like a contender.

There a deal on the logitech tkl gaming with the romer G switches for $20 at staples.  At $20, you could definitely try that one as gaming keyboards are designed for a bit of punishment.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 08:52:23 »
Strongest tkl?  IBM SSK--but it's going to be north of the $100 mark.

But if you think of it as an investment, it will never go down only up even as you get to use it.  Not many investments have that type of return.

That's a fact. A Model M as old as I am still feels as solid as the day it was made. bmmcwhirt has been getting some out to GH members cheaply (although not very many yet) and I just picked one up for 150+shipping. Completely worth.

for the $100 budget, might I suggest the CM MasterKeys line. Solid boards w/ Cherry stabilizers.

otherwise, yeah... Leos are where it's at

Have to agree with this. Boyfriend used a CM QuickFire board for years and it's still working flawlessly. CM make solid, secure construction. I feel like it would take abnormal abuse to wear one down.

Double agree because Leo.


« Last Edit: Thu, 02 November 2017, 08:54:14 by mogo »

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 01:52:08 »
KUL makes pretty good no-frills tenkeyless boards.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 20:55:53 »
KUL makes pretty good no-frills tenkeyless boards.

+1.

KUL ES-87 is a great board. Cherry stabilizers, highly customizable, detachable cable with multiple routings, and well built... can even get a few different case colors and good switch selection.  :cool:
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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 07:46:19 »
KUL makes pretty good no-frills tenkeyless boards.

+1.

KUL ES-87 is a great board. Cherry stabilizers, highly customizable, detachable cable with multiple routings, and well built... can even get a few different case colors and good switch selection.  :cool:

KUL started off strong.  However no updates/company news since early 2015 would make me worry if they will be around when problems develop.

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Re: Yo.. I have no idea whats going on
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 10:43:11 »
KUL makes pretty good no-frills tenkeyless boards.

+1.

KUL ES-87 is a great board. Cherry stabilizers, highly customizable, detachable cable with multiple routings, and well built... can even get a few different case colors and good switch selection.  :cool:

KUL started off strong.  However no updates/company news since early 2015 would make me worry if they will be around when problems develop.

Perhaps... most issues occur after the warranty has ended, though, so I'm not sure how much weight I'd put into that.

The ES-87 has been around for a few years and seems to be a well liked board with no consistent reliability issues. The only thing I can think of is its pingyness when outfitted with MX Clears (though it's still great that they offered them).
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