Author Topic: Building board, very thick brass bar,Now feet do not touch table by a drop.  (Read 2797 times)

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Offline typo

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I am building a new keyboard. I picked out the perfect brass bar I wanted for the bottom of the case. It is partially inset. The issue is it will not allow the feet I have that fit the board perfectly to touch the table by about 2/50th of an inch. I can put something over the feet if you guys can brainstorm what would look good. The feet are oval shaped rubber about 1/2" long by 1/8" wide and rounded at the corners.  the other option which I do not like as much is to use a thinner bar. The next step down in stock at my supplier is a big step down in thickness. If you guys can come up with an athetotic way I can raise the feet a drop I would be all set. I cannot get taller feet. They fit this case and I would have no idea where to look for them. another idea is to use secondary taller feet but with the primary feet there that just looks like an uncompleted job to me. I am hoping you guy's can help here as I know many of you are highly resourceful. I do not like my boards to slide around the table. At 65% it needs weight. The completed board with the brass weight currently weighs 26.3 pounds. Without the weight present it weighs 6.2 pounds. Big difference, huh? This is a huge, thick weight. It is 11.5x3.5x1.1" It was Billet stock laser cut to my size. As well as the back of the case being laser cut as deep as I could without going through. Actually, I left 1/10" in the case. Okay guys please come up with an idea for me! this is probably a no brainer for many of you!

This is not a troll post! I am very serious about this! After the last fiasco I had promised no more pictures here. The usual people that hate on me, you are just not welcome in this thread, okay? Please hate on me in someone else's thread as this is a serious project to me. I obviously cannot have the feet not touching the table! Thank you to those that have taken the time to read this and those that may offer help.

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Have I really been that much of a jerk lately? I only meant to go after the people that attacked me. Which I feel are few. The vast majority of you are good as always with me. Or no one has an answer to my question? I figure it would be a piece of cake for many of you here. The thing is I want it to look like it is supposed to be that way. Which is what is making it more difficult for me. Otherwise I would just put some "feet" on it and call it a day. I need to somehow build up the existing feet and make it look like it was not messed with. Thank you

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Why don't they touch the table? The cuts in the case for them are too deep? If that's all it is, why not just try to shim them with something? You could glue some washers, or even some plastic you cut to shape, in the recesses, then stick the feet in over top of them. Maybe you could even pour some epoxy to whatever depth you like in the voids, let it dry, then install the feet?

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No. It is the exact opposite. Thank you for replying.
The plate is so tall it is preventing the stock feet from touching the table. Therefore the entire case is resting on the bottom plate and not the feet. I am speaking of the bottom brass insert for added weight not the keyplate. If you were think correctly, unfortunately I can no longer remove the stock feet from their recesses. I glued them in with extremely strong epoxy,duh.

Oh, yes I see you were thinking correctly. Thank you. Now I can no longer remove the stock feet. My only option is to put something good looking on top of them. Do you think If I added 5 taller feet in addition to the 5 present it would look bad? I kind of think it would look like an afterthought. I do not plan to sell this but I am very anal.
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No. It is the exact opposite. Thank you for replying.
The plate is so tall it is preventing the stock feet from touching the table. Therefore the entire case is resting on the bottom plate and not the feet. I am speaking of the bottom brass insert for added weight not the keyplate. If you were think correctly, unfortunately I can no longer remove the stock feet from their recesses. I glued them in with extremely strong epoxy,duh.

Oh, yes I see you were thinking correctly. Thank you. Now I can no longer remove the stock feet. My only option is to put something good looking on top of them. Do you think If I added 5 taller feet in addition to the 5 present it would look bad? I kind of think it would look like an afterthought. I do not plan to sell this but I am very anal.

Ok, carefully dremel the epoxied feet flat, to a depth of your choosing, maybe with a stone attachment, then install more feet of the same length and width over them? Shouldn't be visible then.

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alternatively you could sand the bar where it touches, making it just the right size
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alternatively you could sand the bar where it touches, making it just the right size

Good idea. I wonder what sort of finish it has.

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I like Dremel the feet flat. I will heavy tape the case so I do not scratch it. Done. Thanks folks

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Dremel job done. New feet fitted. Perfect height. Easy peasy. I knew you guy's would have an answer. yui, your idea was good too. This was just easier because it would be a bear to grind that bar Vs. rubber. Plus I did not want to reduce the weight. That worked out great. Thank you Maledicted. Oh, the Brass bar is bright dipped. I had it made. So I did not want to grind that off either. The case I am working on is anodized titanium. It scratches very easy. Titanium is soft. So I protected it from the Dremel stone very good. I was actually able to entirely remove the stock feet. When they got real thin they just pulled out with a needle nose pliers. Plus out came the epoxy. Epoxy does not bond good to metal luckily. The new feet I actually used a drop of loktite black. Just a drop since it eats rubber. However with the melted rubber they are on there pretty good.


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I'm glad it worked out for you. I didn't even know you could bright dip brass.

I finished 75% of the modifications to a computer case, years ago, to mount an Xbox 360 motherboard into (it was a finicky Jtagged console that I was tired of overheating/red ringing). I had it all mounted, just never finished with the case wiring and cosmetic final touches. More recently I had done a lot of dremeling to get an XB1 motherboard to fit in a 1980s VCR (since the XB1 already looks like a really ugly one). That project never got any further than that though, I never got the motivation to try to work out inserting and ejecting disks through the original VHS tape flap/slot. Wiring the media buttons to an XB1 remote PCB would have been fun though. A 360 DVD drive that I dremeled the lid on (using cutting disks) with a custom design and painted turned out well. I even, more recently, made a new main shelf of a gun safe for muzzle-down orientation of rifles (since muzzle-up causes oil to seep into the stock and ruin it with wood rifles) using spare plywood, copper pipe, rubber hose, rubber chair feet, wood screws, washers, and felt. You wouldn't be able to tell it isn't stock.

Many other stupid/pointless projects have been undertaken, so I was sure we would figure something out.
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Offline walie

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So many extravagant keyboard projects...

A good designer would have accommodated the thickness of the strip and adjusted the feet accordingly...

Never post a photo of it, I already have an idea of what it looks like in my mind and I don’t want reality to spoil it.

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So many extravagant keyboard projects...

A good designer would have accommodated the thickness of the strip and adjusted the feet accordingly...

Never post a photo of it, I already have an idea of what it looks like in my mind and I don’t want reality to spoil it.

Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I have heard of much more ridiculous custom projects that were, in fact, real. I mean, just go watch old episodes of Pimp my Ride, etc.

The only thing he's told me that I find entirely impossible is that somebody built him a computer that was DOA, he said he would take it to a shop for diagnosis. Later, he said literally everything was hosed and he just threw it away. When I said that that was basically impossible, he then said he was well-known in IT and tested everything himself, and even claimed that he found child pornography on it and contacted the FBI about it.

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If the bars are not very thick, you can send them in to get machined, it shouldn't cost that much if it's just a trim.

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Maledicted, I want you to know I do not lie. This computer wholesaler is bad news. I should have known better. I got sucked in. Really my own fault. I paid for the machine the price of one video card in it. That should have been a clue right there/ All serials scratched off. I did a charge back with my credit card. They never even responded. the creditor took their money. They informed me to just recycle it. I brought it to a verified store so it would be documented on camera. Otherwise I am perfectly capable. There was indeed child porno on it. I just sent it to the cybercrime page, Perhaps I just need to clarify myself better.

I love Dremel. The new one I just got(the best one now) is a bit large but by far the most versatile one they have ever made. Actually the best one ever was the old Black and Decker. The variable speed one.
How was sanding down the feet so outlandish Walie? Gee whiz give me a break. So I enjoy projects. A case does not cost much you know. TP4 I did not want to cut into that bar. I wanted the full weight and it was finished. putting on the taller feet was very easy. The projects Maledicted mentioned were a heck of a lot more complicated. No, I am no longer posting pics thanks to you walie. Have your laugh at me without them. I do not need to add fuel to the fire. You begged me to post pics. I finally did. What did you do to me then?

If you really think about it, nothing I ever said is really that hard to believe. Like Maledicted said Pimp my ride really happened and was a lot more "out there" than anything I have ever undertaken.
BTW, that was from a PM. I do think you are very decent but you should not divulge the content of PM's. I don't mind though so it is all good :)

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Lot of hot air on all your projects

Offline typo

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As usual. Gee Whiz walie. The more one does the more they encounter? You are just a hater.

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Lot of hot air on all your projects

He's just trolling...Pretty sure it is someone else on the board...although we have had a number of oddballs here so it is hard to tell.   Still, he's leaving us probably purposeful clues such as a changing story with slightly different information each time.  Crazy stories that don't make any sense.  It is just trolling..

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What the heck is with you guy's? I do my best to convey the truth as I see it. For months walie begged me for a picture. Pic or it didn't happen. I finally posted a pic and then you all called it fake. At least you did not say I grabbed it from Google. I have no clue what you want from me, or what you have against me. I suppose I am just fueling the fire to keep responding to you though. Just ask TP4, I bet he will vouch for me. He is pretty esteemed. He also builds odd projects just s I do. At first people did not believe him. However I have been on this forum over 15 years. How long have you haters been here? I remember back in the day people actually used to actually be interested in my stuff. I knew Smallfry in person. Which was a huge tragedy. Unfortunately that happens daily in rural Wisconsin. We used to do crazy projects. I was like a Grandpa to him. You people are completely wrong about me. I know what I do seems way out there. It certainly is not beyond the realm of possibility. Like someone said, remember Pimp my ride? That was real 30 years ago. Nothing I did is not feasible. For instance, this very post. So I fitted a brass bar into a case. Done everyday. What is the big deal? I am just going to put all of you on ignore.

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Lot of hot air on all your projects

He's just trolling...Pretty sure it is someone else on the board...although we have had a number of oddballs here so it is hard to tell.   Still, he's leaving us probably purposeful clues such as a changing story with slightly different information each time.  Crazy stories that don't make any sense.  It is just trolling..

Oh absolutely, I agree that none of this is true. Some characters on this board are just so fascinating with their imaginations.

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What the heck is with you guy's? I do my best to convey the truth as I see it. For months walie begged me for a picture. Pic or it didn't happen. I finally posted a pic and then you all called it fake. At least you did not say I grabbed it from Google. I have no clue what you want from me, or what you have against me. I suppose I am just fueling the fire to keep responding to you though. Just ask TP4, I bet he will vouch for me. He is pretty esteemed. He also builds odd projects just s I do. At first people did not believe him. However I have been on this forum over 15 years. How long have you haters been here? I remember back in the day people actually used to actually be interested in my stuff. I knew Smallfry in person. Which was a huge tragedy. Unfortunately that happens daily in rural Wisconsin. We used to do crazy projects. I was like a Grandpa to him. You people are completely wrong about me. I know what I do seems way out there. It certainly is not beyond the realm of possibility. Like someone said, remember Pimp my ride? That was real 30 years ago. Nothing I did is not feasible. For instance, this very post. So I fitted a brass bar into a case. Done everyday. What is the big deal? I am just going to put all of you on ignore.

“I’ve been on this forum over 15 years!”

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I only know of Smallfry from old forum posts. Poor kid. I think a lot of people have lurked a lot longer than they have had accounts. Wisconsin needs to crack down on those who drive while under the influence.

I know firsthand because my father drove drunk all of the time. The first 3 or 4 offenses are little more than a slap on the wrist, even though every single one of those times could have resulted in the deaths of multiple people. One time he veered off of the road, collided with a pole, and was ejected through the windshield (since he didn't wear seatbelts either). His ear was almost entirely severed and had to be medically reattached. He still got up and tried once more to drive home.

As long as we keep acting like driving under the influence is a reasonable "mistake" to make, people will keep dying for no good reason at all.

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even when driving under influence can result in prison peoples continue to do it, alcoholics(addicts in general) never think they are under influence of anything my father do not seem to get as drunk as yours but will never drink anything with no alcohol in it either and still drives.
to me no amount of law will change that peoples drive drunk, remember prohibition, it worked well to prevent peoples from getting drunk, you need to changes mentality about alcohol/drugs, and that will require generations, or a lot more deaths, or a hell of lot more enforcement but that one is a double edged sword.
(i think here in France there is a point of drunk on the road when you got straight to few weeks prison and lose your license, although it may have changed in 3 years since i learnt all of that)

oh and typo, internet trolls feeds on peoples who take any attack personally, if you do not feed them they will end up dying, at the moment you are giving them royal meals with your enraged rants, so they come back for more.
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even when driving under influence can result in prison peoples continue to do it, alcoholics(addicts in general) never think they are under influence of anything my father do not seem to get as drunk as yours but will never drink anything with no alcohol in it either and still drives.
to me no amount of law will change that peoples drive drunk, remember prohibition, it worked well to prevent peoples from getting drunk, you need to changes mentality about alcohol/drugs, and that will require generations, or a lot more deaths, or a hell of lot more enforcement but that one is a double edged sword.
(i think here in France there is a point of drunk on the road when you got straight to few weeks prison and lose your license, although it may have changed in 3 years since i learnt all of that)

oh and typo, internet trolls feeds on peoples who take any attack personally, if you do not feed them they will end up dying, at the moment you are giving them royal meals with your enraged rants, so they come back for more.

This is Wisconsin. We have more bars per capita than any other state. I would not be surprised if that scaled to countries as well. There are places where they're literally on every street corner, towns that are unincorporated and literally the only business in that town is a bar. Our state past-time could probably literally be described as standing around in garages, on driveways, drinking all day and night with neighbors (I do not drink at all myself).

I don't care if people will or will not continue to drive drunk regardless of the repercussions, I want them off of the street either way. Punishments for things that are objectively reprehensible/immoral, are in no way comparable to the complete prohibition of a substance that, on its own, consumed responsibly, is not a problem at all. Prohibition of just about anything is not the purpose of government, obviously was never going to work, and is always a monumental waste of resources and lives, while enriching/empowering criminal enterprise. Being caught driving drunk a single time should mean a revocation of your license for a number of years and/or a jail term of at least a year or more. That would obviously be a deterrent for all but the most idiotic/flagrantly unconcerned with the law, and its repercussions, and people like that should be 6 feet under, or in a cell, anyway.

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I did not lurk maledicted. look at my join date.  Anyways being from very rural Wisconsin I can tell you exactly why. Wisconsin is poor. not Milwaukee and the brewers. Of all names. I mean most of real Wisconsin. It is not Kenosha and West Allis. Most of WI is farming. even people that live there do not know that. Our closest Police/Fire is 300 miles away! We have one part time patrol car. Incredibly you are correct. the only business in 25 miles are bars and gun shops. Get piss drunk and shoot your wife. Only crime is domestic. Then the next closest is like home Depot and Arby's. I don't eat that. I am a Vegan. You guessed it. no drink or smoke either. Even at my age I can out run most beer belly 25 year old's.  The point is most visitors and even many people that live in the suburbs do not know the real Wisconsin. Tractors get hit every day unfortunately. Often not even involving alcohol. Just speeding. Need to stop speeding on dirt roads too! Even if it says 55 on one way road I go 30. Makes people furious but I value my life and freedom.

Yes, I did realize about fueling the fire so to speak. I am going to ignore it now. I swear on Jesus though I may be crazy but I do not lie. I really do the things I say. You really think I would swear on Jesus for that if it was untrue? Like I want to go to hell over some petty thing. Anything further regarding this matter shall not be answered to. I think I just said my part as strongly as it could be said.

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Post your pics then...your outlandish claims and repeatedly talking about the same keyboard for a year with claims you're worried about someone copying it...are just BS.

Or shut us up and post them.  Since it is no longer your end game keyboard you should have no issue with that.