Star Wars 4K discs

[tp4tissue]

Finally finished watching the Latest 4K iterations, including solo + rogue 1 .


Thinking deeply about all 11 big-films.  It's clear that they can not be ranked numerically.

Similar to asking the question, " Which is the best Star Trek ? " , it'll depend on who you are and what you want to watch.

The Original Trilogy is like Trek-TOS,  You watch it to see where it all began.
The Prequel is like Trek-Enterprise,   You watch it for an extended base story.
The Sequel is like Trek-Discovery,    You watch it because you're depressed about the united states economy.

Solo and Rogue1, they're like the Soup or the Dessert portion of the meal. You want the Full-dinner, so you get both.


Visually:

789 +solo+R1, nothing to complain about, they look fantastic in 4K, if you turn off your story critique,  everything is great.

7 and 9 are distinctively Abrams, very cold space, steep contrast, focused highlights.  HDR really complements Abram's style

8, Rian Johnson's star wars is much warmer and soft lit. The blacks are clearly elevated to avoid harsh edges. This lead to some conflict in certain scenes; some of the highlights(control panels, lasers, explosions) are so bright in the HDR-grading and so color-saturated that they burst out of the subdued overall setting.

3, 2,  caught the beginning of the Super Computing CGI era.  It looks good, but it doesn't have modern subsurface rendering/ ray tracing. The camera work, it does use sony's digicam @ 1080p, lower res and softer than film.

1,  Eh..  more blurry than expected, the color grading is fine, better than the old bluray, but the Digital-Noise-Reduction is so heavy, that it wax-figures everything. The CGI is very low res, and does not age well, but there's alot of heart in it as an early big budget.

4,  Best home-iteration of the movie to date. Significantly sharper than the previous bluray.  Color grading is demure and unassuming, very Era-Appropriate.

5,  Weakest showing in 4K,  the DNR scrubbed out way too much detail in places.

6,  Better than 5, but still some inconsistent scrubbing here / there, some scenes look great , some scenes look flattened.

Original Trillogy:  Overall, the HDR grading is probably much easier with the grain removed, because there's probably alot of different colored noise between all the different film stock used per film. Then with different contrast behaviors of each stock in differently lit scenes, it becomes very convoluted to balance.

They put the most effort into 4.   

5 and 6 didn't get as much love.

[Sintpinty]

Nah it's episode 9 that clearly has no passion into it. Conehead is the best character by far, and that kinda makes a statement.

Come on rey, you could've used your lighting powers plus the power of the sith bro

[tp4tissue]

Nah it's episode 9 that clearly has no passion into it. Conehead is the best character by far, and that kinda makes a statement.

Come on rey, you could've used your lighting powers plus the power of the sith bro

I think because there are too many old basement-boy fans who are now adults, the critique is too cerebral for a young-person's movie.

If you don't think too hard, the new trilogy is pretty entertaining.

Overall, my take is if anyone's buying single discs instead of Full sets,  3,4,7,8,9,solo,R1 give the best bang-for-buck 4K visuals.

7, being best visually.

4K HDR Visually ranked: 7 > 9 > 8 > R1 > Solo > 4 > 3

[Coreda]

Never watched any of the post-prequel SWs, though had thought I might one day pick up 7 when it came to UHD but don't have any urge to.

Frankly I'm only really fond of 5 but figured 7 is the least controversial of the newer ones. Think I'd like it, or is it far too much of a SW pastiche to stand on its own?

[tp4tissue]

Never watched any of the post-prequel SWs, though had thought I might one day pick up 7 when it came to UHD but don't have any urge to.

Frankly I'm only really fond of 5 but figured 7 is the least controversial of the newer ones. Think I'd like it, or is it far too much of a SW pastiche to stand on its own?

I think the h8 for the New Trilogy is unreasonable.

The starwars story never flew straight, ever, not in original trilogy, not in prequel.  The New movies are as good as they can be following -Lucas's mediocre writing- , while taking visuals to the next level. 

Truly, the CGI tech is amazballz.  and the story is -interesting enough-.

Story wise, It's at least as good as Avengers.

[Maledicted]

From what I have heard, Episode I was recorded digitally, unfortunately. I think the source is literally something like 720p. Impressive for 1999, but that means we're stuck with just trying to upconvert vs trying to squeeze the most fidelity possible out of traditional film.

Never watched any of the post-prequel SWs, though had thought I might one day pick up 7 when it came to UHD but don't have any urge to.

Frankly I'm only really fond of 5 but figured 7 is the least controversial of the newer ones. Think I'd like it, or is it far too much of a SW pastiche to stand on its own?

I think the h8 for the New Trilogy is unreasonable.

The starwars story never flew straight, ever, not in original trilogy, not in prequel.  The New movies are as good as they can be following -Lucas's mediocre writing- , while taking visuals to the next level. 

Truly, the CGI tech is amazballz.  and the story is -interesting enough-.

Story wise, It's at least as good as Avengers.

Episode 7 is 4, but worse. Abrams copied everything about the theme, but every change made 0 sense. Tie bombers apparently no longer exist. Tractor beams? Also gone. Now we can apparently magically stop blaster bolts in mid air with the force, etc, etc.

There is basically no story. What isn't terrible is stolen from the OT or EU (I call Kylo by a more appropriate name, Fake Revan), and the rest is some meandering, nonsensical plot vomit that they try to race past in every scene to try to get to more CGI and explosions as if they know how terrible it is and want to keep you distracted.

Rogue One is good though, if you can ignore all of its conflictions with the old (real) canon.

[tp4tissue]

Rogue 1, Solo, 7,8,9

They're reb00ts, that's how it's suppose to be.

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Rogue 1, Solo, 7,8,9

They're reb00ts, that's how it's suppose to be.

They're not reboots. They're a new trilogy. A lazy one, which became reboots, because Abrams doesn't have a single atom of originality in his body. He's a hack, always has been. I was never a Trekkie, so I didn't understand why they all hated Into Darkness. Now I know all too well.

[tp4tissue]

They're not reboots. They're a new trilogy. A lazy one, which became reboots, because Abrams doesn't have a single atom of originality in his body. He's a hack, always has been. I was never a Trekkie, so I didn't understand why they all hated Into Darkness. Now I know all too well.

Tp4 am a Trekkie, Tp4 Thoroughly Enjoyed ALL of Abram's Trek Films. and Both 7 and 9 of Star Wars.

[Maledicted]

They're not reboots. They're a new trilogy. A lazy one, which became reboots, because Abrams doesn't have a single atom of originality in his body. He's a hack, always has been. I was never a Trekkie, so I didn't understand why they all hated Into Darkness. Now I know all too well.

Tp4 am a Trekkie, Tp4 Thoroughly Enjoyed ALL of Abram's Trek Films. and Both 7 and 9 of Star Wars.

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You must be the exception to the rule, although my sample size was small. My uncle has watched Star Trek since it came out, he got his son into it. They both hate the Abrams films.

7, 8, and 9 are all almost entirely equally terrible.

[tp4tissue]

You must be the exception to the rule, although my sample size was small. My uncle has watched Star Trek since it came out, he got his son into it. They both hate the Abrams films.

7, 8, and 9 are all almost entirely equally terrible.

LIES and Slander.. JJabra , greatest filmmaker of this generation.. Hahaha, I'm xagrratn'

Everyone's entitled to like or dislike. I think the majority of people who watch movies are doing it from having seen maybe a few hundred movies.

Tp4 has seen over 5000 movies at this point, and 400 Tv shows.

Now, From TP4's point of view, it's not really helpful to evaluate movies by comparison. We can always find another movie that did any one element or even many elements better.

Tp4 is of the camp that evaluates every movie, as stand alone,  How would a person feel about this film, IF it's the First and Only movie he's ever seen.

Tp4 believes this is the more objective process. And this consequent output is, 789 are very good movies..

[Maledicted]

You must be the exception to the rule, although my sample size was small. My uncle has watched Star Trek since it came out, he got his son into it. They both hate the Abrams films.

7, 8, and 9 are all almost entirely equally terrible.

LIES and Slander.. JJabra , greatest filmmaker of this generation.. Hahaha, I'm xagrratn'

Everyone's entitled to like or dislike. I think the majority of people who watch movies are doing it from having seen maybe a few hundred movies.

Tp4 has seen over 5000 movies at this point, and 400 Tv shows.

Now, From TP4's point of view, it's not really helpful to evaluate movies by comparison. We can always find another movie that did any one element or even many elements better.

Tp4 is of the camp that evaluates every movie, as stand alone,  How would a person feel about this film, IF it's the First and Only movie he's ever seen.

Tp4 believes this is the more objective process. And this consequent output is, 789 are very good movies..

I watch many movies myself, it may, conversely, be part of why I am so critical. It is the only video media that I consume, besides documentaries. I rarely like anything made in the U.S. because of how nonsensical, and reliant on effects, it is. The plots of 7-9 are, objectively, nonsensical and disjointed. Take Han pulling the Falcon out of light speed just before he crashes into the Disney Star. He's somehow literally able to not only perfectly time when to do that, but also have the reflexes to get it just right to not only not shoot right through the base, but also not come out too high above its surface. That's completely impossible. Absurdities like that abound in the Disney Wars trilogy.

Half of 7 is basically references/fan service pointing back at real Star Wars, and the rest of the movies are as well, to a lesser degree, so I find it pretty difficult to separate them from Star Wars and look at them as if they're something else in that regard, even in spite of their other flaws.

Lucas wasn't perfect. We obviously wouldn't hear explosions in space, etc, but the Disney clones are much worse in every way. Even worse than Episode VI.

Like you said though, to each their own. I know a lot of people seem to have a very high opinion of Tarantino for some reason. I think most of his movies are mediocre at best, and many are pretty bad.