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Offline kbye

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[IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 14:35:44 »

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NUE - 60% PCB Gasket Mount

IC FORM LINK: https://forms.gle/e454QypTEHdam3D47

PREFACE

Hi Geekhack. I'd like to share a project I've been working on.

Nue is a 60% plate-less keyboard, using a gasket mount style via tabs on the PCB. My goal was to design a keyboard with a simple aesthetic but also offer something a bit different from other customs, with a specific focus on typing feel and acoustics. Nue is french for "nude", in reference to its plate-less design.

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DETAILS
  • Case Angle: 6 degrees
  • Mounting: PCB gasket mount
  • Materials: 6063 aluminum, clear coated brass weight
  • Front Height: ~18mm
  • Plate: optional
  • PCB: Solder-only STM32 PCB + unified C3 daughterboard. QMK/VIA compatible

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Sound and feel are very important to me, and most of the time prototyping was spent on these aspects. Things I am testing include a combination of:
  • PCB with and without flex cuts
  • 8+ different types of gasket material ranging from different materials, densities, and thicknesses
  • Case foam
  • Optional FR4 full/half plates
A USB-C daughterboard is utilized to alleviate any tension or stress on the port due to flex.

LAYOUT

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Extra PCBs will be available, but it will also be open sourced after the group buy is over.

COLORS + TOP OPTIONS

TBD. I have these four colors in mind, along with WK/WKL/HHKB top options. I will likely decide on just two color/two tops to better manage quality control.
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Please fill out IC so I can gauge what people like.

PRICING & AVAILABILITY

TBD depending on IC. At this time I am looking at a small run with a target price in the low-mid $300s. Extras will be funded out of my own pocket for quality control.


CURRENT STATUS

Latest updates here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108687.msg2972881#msg2972881

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First aluminum prototype has arrived and I've been putting it through the paces. The anodization is really good with only minimal streaks on the interior. Fit is great and no major revisions are needed. The color is not what I was expecting though, it's more mauve/lilac than pink depending on the lighting. I may order a second prototype with small adjustments as well as a different top and color (HHKB maybe).

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More prototype pictures. Proto PCB is green but production version will be black.

As for typing feel, I think it's acceptable but a bit too soft with the flex cuts. I've designed and ordered another round of PCB prototypes with different flex cuts to see how this changes the typing dynamic.

Sound is great in my opinion, but it is always subjective. There is no audible ping that I can hear coming from the case. At this point I don't think case foam is necessary, but I may decide to make this an optional add-on.


TO-DO
  • finish gathering feedback
  • Order second PCB prototype
  • Order second case prototype
  • Continue testing gasket/PCB/plate combinations
  • Sound test
  • Design and order custom packaging
  • Start a discord server for updates
  • Prepare for GB

IC LINK: https://forms.gle/e454QypTEHdam3D47 Please fill out, your feedback is helpful. Thanks for reading!
« Last Edit: Tue, 27 October 2020, 16:23:42 by kbye »

Offline of_sam

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 14:48:03 »
Well done. Solid work so far.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 14:55:46 »
This is so nice, totally for that pink...  :D
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Offline Ustinj

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 14:59:13 »
a strong feeling that it's going to be a great typing board, looks good!

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 15:03:13 »
Very interesting, plateless is the move, will be keeping an eye on this & IC form filled out!

Offline binepad

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 15:13:00 »
Wow it looks amazing and sturdy

Offline deedz

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 15:26:25 »
WKL, 6 degree, gasket, $300?

This is it chief

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 15:40:43 »
I love this. Choosing between the pink and the green is going to be a tough choice

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 16:15:28 »
Awesome.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 16:37:13 »
Like it

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 16:51:37 »
such pog

Offline kbye

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 17:09:28 »
Thank you everyone for the feedback so far, good or bad I appreciate it all

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 17:52:00 »
color me interested. Looking forward to see how this one turns out.

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 18:11:34 »
nuclear mac and cheese levels of good

Offline Danyl

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 18:59:40 »
am hot and bothered

Offline keebieweeb

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 22:25:11 »
very interested. this makes me feel things

Offline alspdx

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 23:34:39 »
100% in for Rose or Fern HHKB; Lavender would look great, too!

Offline KFOXE

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 23:41:36 »
Interested, love the design. Hoping you consider adding a purple colourway.

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 00:09:52 »
Very interested! GL with IC!

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 02:29:11 »
Loving the feedback you're getting with this my dude, especially with all the work you've put into it. Not sure if I'll join the group buy since money is tight but you have my support <3

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 03:16:00 »
Very cool. Are 1.2mm PCBs in the running?

Offline lakeboredom

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 03:46:48 »
Finally a breakdown pic my caveman brain can understand ha. Nice clean design. Not 100% sold on the side gaskets, I'm guessing they could be left out on preference though.

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 04:04:09 »
Look awesome and love the color choices.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 06:26:55 »
Very cool. Are 1.2mm PCBs in the running?

From my personal experience both 1.2mm PCB as well as "flex cuts" are over the top for a PCB-only board, but obviously that's a matter of preference and ultimately up to the designer. As such, I'm very fond of them prototyping different things before even posting the IC, there's too much "brrrr here's a render gimme $600" on GH these days.

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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 10:54:05 »
Simon approves, so I approve  :thumb:

Offline xarly06

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 10:56:02 »
Oh its looks so good. I'm goong to follow this IC.
Good job.

Offline Dr_D

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 10:59:01 »
Looks interesting, I'll be following this. Any chance for a typing test once you get a proto you're happy with?

Offline kbye

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 20:16:22 »
Loving the feedback you're getting with this my dude, especially with all the work you've put into it. Not sure if I'll join the group buy since money is tight but you have my support <3

Appreciate it bro!

Very cool. Are 1.2mm PCBs in the running?

From my personal experience both 1.2mm PCB as well as "flex cuts" are over the top for a PCB-only board, but obviously that's a matter of preference and ultimately up to the designer. As such, I'm very fond of them prototyping different things before even posting the IC, there's too much "brrrr here's a render gimme $600" on GH these days.

Thank you! This project has been in the works for months but I wasn't comfortable posting an IC until I had a working prototype. That being said, there are already a number of things I'm looking to improve upon based on my testing and community feedback. 1.2mm PCB is one of the changes I will test next, among other things.

Looks interesting, I'll be following this. Any chance for a typing test once you get a proto you're happy with?

Yes! Once I'm satisfied with the proto, I will try to reach out to some streamers as well as record a typing test myself.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 20 September 2020, 21:01:59 »
I'm definitely interested in a keyboard with no plate.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:11:59 »
Only recently discovered 60% as fervent TKL user.

Really interesting project, can't wait to see were this ends up.
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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:54:20 »
Good Job!  ;D

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:39:50 »
Looks great! Any plans to add ESD protection for the PCB?

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 11:22:20 »
consider me interested!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 11:25:04 »
ever since i found out about idb60, i've wanted a plateless gasket 60%. looking forward to this!

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 12:42:53 »
I absolutely adore everything about this.

Offline kbye

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 17:24:30 »
Looks great! Any plans to add ESD protection for the PCB?

I am using the standard unified USB-C daughterboard which has ESD protection :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 18:30:45 »
I love the look and design, I think something that could look a little better is using countersunk screws and sockets on the bottom plate instead of the notched out sections. Additionally I'd vote for a 1.2mm pcb option or maybe a full thickness pcb with alpha flex cuts to achieve a somewhat similar effect.

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 22 September 2020, 01:02:25 »
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 22 September 2020, 04:48:54 »
it's cute

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 22 September 2020, 05:01:32 »
Very cool. Are 1.2mm PCBs in the running?
I'm very fond of them prototyping different things before even posting the IC, there's too much "brrrr here's a render gimme $600" on GH these days.
This is so true. Agree 100%

Cool looking board. PCB-mount is very interesting!

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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 22 September 2020, 10:32:00 »
Yes

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 22 September 2020, 11:49:36 »
Super excited for this!

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 14:11:23 »
Interesting. Plateless gasket is cool

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 16:01:03 »
Really digging the pastel colors. Interested  :thumb:

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 17:21:11 »
Liking the plateless and loving the green. Hoping this all goes well!

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 17:42:06 »
I don't konw squat about squat, but seeing the mention of STM had me remembering reading from a discord channel:

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there appears to be a global shortage of 48-pin variants of STM32F072
Both QFN and QFP

Don't know if that would be an issue here. Just throwing it out.  Board looks quite nice.  Those low contrast renders are kinda weird though.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 17:52:03 »
I don't konw squat about squat, but seeing the mention of STM had me remembering reading from a discord channel:

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there appears to be a global shortage of 48-pin variants of STM32F072
Both QFN and QFP

Don't know if that would be an issue here. Just throwing it out.  Board looks quite nice.  Those low contrast renders are kinda weird though.

Yes, I became aware of the STM32 situation when I tried to order new protos last week. They are still available but at inflated prices due to the shortage. I bit the bullet for testing purposes but I'll be watching the supply over the next couple months and if it doesn't improve I may switch back to the trusty atmega.

Sorry you didn't like the renders. Although it was low contrast on purpose to give a pastel look, I'm still learning! Feedback appreciated.
« Last Edit: Fri, 25 September 2020, 23:21:23 by kbye »

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 20:28:47 »
The price point / est. is right on target, also bonus points for HHKB top!
Will definitely keep an eye on this. Loving the blue, hopefully the blue pastel can be achieved. Looking fwd to other colour(s) protos.
« Last Edit: Fri, 25 September 2020, 20:36:11 by zedbraxmen »

Offline zedbraxmen

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 20:38:51 »
Very interesting, plateless is the move, will be keeping an eye on this & IC form filled out!

I'm genuinely curious to know what is the advantage of going plateless.

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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 22:44:09 »
Very interesting, plateless is the move, will be keeping an eye on this & IC form filled out!

I'm genuinely curious to know what is the advantage of going plateless.
Like most things, It is all preference. The difference from plateless opposed to plate is there will be a lot more flex when typing. This will provide a softer/bouncier typing experience, especially when combined with gasket mounting.

Offline zedbraxmen

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 19:10:57 »
Very interesting, plateless is the move, will be keeping an eye on this & IC form filled out!

I'm genuinely curious to know what is the advantage of going plateless.
Like most things, It is all preference. The difference from plateless opposed to plate is there will be a lot more flex when typing. This will provide a softer/bouncier typing experience, especially when combined with gasket mounting.

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation, friend.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 20:43:14 »
This board looks beautiful and designing it to be gasket mount plateless is a unique take.

Being designed by a Canadian changes this from me being highly interested to a must buy!

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 12:55:14 »
The green is such a nice color! When is the discord gonna open?

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 15:56:25 »
Extremely interested. Any range for the price?

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 20:34:54 »
Extremely interested. Any range for the price?

PRICING & AVAILABILITY

TBD depending on IC. At this time I am looking at a small run with a target price in the low-mid $300s. Extras will be funded out of my own pocket for quality control.
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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 21:49:13 »
Good :thumb:

I want HHKB.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 23:33:47 »
Looks great, interested :]
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« Reply #57 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 02:11:07 »
Filled form and wait for the prototype :)

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« Reply #58 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:20:45 »
very clean :3

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:36:16 »
very nice colour choices! would love to try typing on this

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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:38:48 »
Look very great, nice job ! I'm interested :]

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« Reply #61 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:55:35 »
Oh man. A frosted PC option would be endgame.

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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 16:12:53 »
Good :thumb:

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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 17:58:18 »
This is looking good. What color is that dark case? Is it black or space gray?
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« Reply #64 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:33:46 »
I've been hunting for more PCB mounted keyboards, super excited to see this progress to GB/fulfillment. Sign me up for 1!
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« Reply #65 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:34:06 »
Really like the colors, especially the pink and "slate". Also, good on you for having a working proto before IC. Keep up the good work!


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« Reply #66 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:46:23 »
Dang that looks awesome. Looking forward to a GB!

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:48:40 »
Great project. Hope to see it in the GB soon!
I really enjoy typing on an plateless IDB60 and hope we will have more plateless keyboards on the future.

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 16:13:47 »
A bit of a progress update.

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First off, thank you to the users that filled out the interest check form! I'm blown away by the amount of feedback I received especially since I haven't posted the IC anywhere other than GH.

I have been testing the 2nd PCB prototype which features a 1.2mm thickness and modified leaf-spring style cuts on the tabs.

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Typing experience is much better than R1 since the lack of full-row flex cuts prevent the whole rows of keys from bouncing around too much, (something you normally wouldn't experience with a full/half plate). At the same time, the gaskets allow for a soft bottom out and the thin PCB provides a firm but flexible feel.

Here is my boomer attempt to illustrate the flex, it's a bit more pronounced in person:



IC Feedback

  • Some people have asked about whether the side tabs are really necessary since you never see side mounts on plate designs. Without them, the modifiers don't have as much support and the typing force feels very uneven, especially with gasket mount. So yes, they are necessary.
  • I've received requests for in-switch LEDs - at this time I won't be adding them in just to keep things simple. If I decide to run another round, it will be included
  • Also requests for split-spacebars. It would require a PCB re-design so unfortunately that is also out of the picture for this round
  • Lighter rose gold color. The first prototype was a custom pantone that my manu had never worked with before so color matching was a challenge. I am making adjustments to a more reproducible, lighter rose gold color.
  • Only 20% polled like HHKB so unfortunately that is out of the picture
  • Green PCB. Sorry but it will be black.
  • Polycarb case. If I run another round, I will look into it.

Next Steps

2nd case proto has been ordered with a couple changes:

  • Removed the text logo at the back based on feedback
  • Slightly increased the space between PCB and case to provide more room to flex
  • Added alignment tabs for the brass accent piece
  • Polished brass just to see if I like it
  • Changed the rose anodization color to a lighter one

I will probably include optional FR4 plate and case foam to allow for user to tune to their preference. Personally I think it feels and sounds great without.
   
Tentatively, I am planning 70 boards for public sale, in Light Rose and Slate Blue colorways, WKL and WK. It will ship from Canada and will be in CAD$.

Updated to-do:

  • Sound test
  • Design and order custom packaging (samples in transit)
  • Look into reasonable intl shipping costs (30% of IC is outside North America!)
  • Prepare for GB - hoping for 2020 but we'll see
   

New color renders and discord coming soon - bear with me, I'd love to dedicate more time to this but work and family come first. Thanks all!

Offline heyimpanda

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 17:48:57 »
Dang, black didn't make the cut. Still looking forward to seeing the new rose color and fighting for one of the 70 public boards :P

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 18:32:17 »
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Only 20% polled like HHKB so unfortunately that is out of the picture
Outch. Rip

Offline andromache

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 18:42:57 »
Excited to see the update on this! The proto looks great. Nice to know you're taking your time on this to make a unique and quality board. I really hope I am able to join this GB! But if not, then I will definitely be in for a future run.

Offline VellFlamm

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 19:14:16 »
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Also requests for split-spacebars. It would require a PCB re-design so unfortunately that is also out of the picture for this round

I'm looking forward to R2. GL with this round.

Offline misswaffle

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 03:01:12 »
I'm glad that the pink has been changed to a lighter rose gold tone and am excited to see how the second prototype will turn out. I love the plateless design and the board just looks so pretty.

As a fellow Canadian, "It will ship from Canada and will be in CAD$" is an amazing sight. Hoping I can get into the group buy!

Offline xarly06

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 04:40:04 »
A bit of a progress update.

(Attachment Link)

First off, thank you to the users that filled out the interest check form! I'm blown away by the amount of feedback I received especially since I haven't posted the IC anywhere other than GH.

I have been testing the 2nd PCB prototype which features a 1.2mm thickness and modified leaf-spring style cuts on the tabs.

(Attachment Link)

Typing experience is much better than R1 since the lack of full-row flex cuts prevent the whole rows of keys from bouncing around too much, (something you normally wouldn't experience with a full/half plate). At the same time, the gaskets allow for a soft bottom out and the thin PCB provides a firm but flexible feel.

Here is my boomer attempt to illustrate the flex, it's a bit more pronounced in person:

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IC Feedback

  • Some people have asked about whether the side tabs are really necessary since you never see side mounts on plate designs. Without them, the modifiers don't have as much support and the typing force feels very uneven, especially with gasket mount. So yes, they are necessary.
  • I've received requests for in-switch LEDs - at this time I won't be adding them in just to keep things simple. If I decide to run another round, it will be included
  • Also requests for split-spacebars. It would require a PCB re-design so unfortunately that is also out of the picture for this round
  • Lighter rose gold color. The first prototype was a custom pantone that my manu had never worked with before so color matching was a challenge. I am making adjustments to a more reproducible, lighter rose gold color.
  • Only 20% polled like HHKB so unfortunately that is out of the picture
  • Green PCB. Sorry but it will be black.
  • Polycarb case. If I run another round, I will look into it.

Next Steps

2nd case proto has been ordered with a couple changes:

  • Removed the text logo at the back based on feedback
  • Slightly increased the space between PCB and case to provide more room to flex
  • Added alignment tabs for the brass accent piece
  • Polished brass just to see if I like it
  • Changed the rose anodization color to a lighter one

I will probably include optional FR4 plate and case foam to allow for user to tune to their preference. Personally I think it feels and sounds great without.
   
Tentatively, I am planning 70 boards for public sale, in Light Rose and Slate Blue colorways, WKL and WK. It will ship from Canada and will be in CAD$.

Updated to-do:

  • Sound test
  • Design and order custom packaging (samples in transit)
  • Look into reasonable intl shipping costs (30% of IC is outside North America!)
  • Prepare for GB - hoping for 2020 but we'll see
   

New color renders and discord coming soon - bear with me, I'd love to dedicate more time to this but work and family come first. Thanks all!

Oh look so good. Good job!

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 08:27:45 »
A must buy  :eek:
Flex is love, flex is life.

Offline kidpid

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:18:56 »
  • Only 20% polled like HHKB so unfortunately that is out of the picture

RIP. Guess I'll catch this one if there's a R2 with HHKB.

Offline Paitupai

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 21:49:53 »
Looks really good! Probably going to wait for r2 though and hoping for asia proxy. GL with the IC and GB  :thumb:

Offline Visionaire

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 22:33:06 »
Good lookin' board. Especially intrigued by the lack of a plate. Will keep an eye out.
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Offline beigeandbrown

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 00:20:33 »
How are you thinking of doing the group buy? This really looks like my dream board, I don't like plates but I also love gaskets. This hits all the right spots.

Offline devilDesignsKB

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:12:46 »
Love it, my favorite layout  ;D wonder how that typing will be

Offline taiminhle4920

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 01:00:06 »
So how many board will this gb have, 70 or unlimited?

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 10:36:53 »
So how many board will this gb have, 70 or unlimited?
Tentatively, I am planning 70 boards for public sale, in Light Rose and Slate Blue colorways, WKL and WK. It will ship from Canada and will be in CAD$.



Here is my boomer attempt to illustrate the flex, it's a bit more pronounced in person:
Show Image

I love this gif.

Offline Uryftw

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 18:40:03 »
I just can't wait to try to get my hands on one. This is LOVELY

Offline Mechkeeb

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 02:52:24 »
Is this international? I'm in singapore btw super interested

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Offline gasp

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 13:13:30 »
I'm here for this

Offline kbye

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 20:21:02 »
Is this international? I'm in singapore btw super interested

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Yes, international shipping will be available, I'm just trying to make sure shipping costs are reasonable so I'm looking at various options right now.

Offline Demagine

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 20:51:22 »
This board looks amazing - can't wait to see when the GB is!

Offline ogp3

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 14 November 2020, 07:06:27 »
Eagerly waiting for this one!  ;D

Offline Bl4ck

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #89 on: Sat, 14 November 2020, 07:20:56 »
Where would this be shipped from? (EU here so... trying to check about import taxes and so on)

Offline honoka

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 19 November 2020, 16:05:50 »
Where would this be shipped from? (EU here so... trying to check about import taxes and so on)

From canada

Offline ubmit

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Re: [IC] Nue | 60% PCB Gasket Mount
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 01:45:36 »
Definitely interested, liked the design and also the plateless mount! By the way, this Rose color is really nice!