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Offline AstroBunny

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[IC] DSA Encore
« on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:32:05 »

Inspired by a certified banger from a Kpop group that’s out of this world, this keyset aims to be the baddest in the galaxy. Why? ‘Cause that’s what the baddest do!


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VENDORS: TBA

GROUP BUY: TBA

PRICE: TBA

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Fuji65 by CMM.Studio
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Saka68 by CMM.Studio
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Candybar by TheKey.Company
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Sunsetter by Charue Design
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Iron165 by Smith+Rune
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M-60A by RAMA Works
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DESKMAT: TBD

Ways to stay updated:AstroBunny Studios, Instagram, Geekhack, Reddit
I will NOT be having my own Discord server for DSA Encore 'cause I don't think anyone needs another server to join for this hobby. Instead, you can follow the #astrobunny-studios channel within the CKC Discordor visit my website.




CREDITS
Thugginuggs – answering every “Hey which 1 looks better?” no matter what time of day & constantly telling me I was doing great. Boop Boop Boop.
Marco – sending me cat memes daily as a best friend should & the main reason why this my site looks so yummy. Also helped me brush up on my web designing skills. We built this in 7 days!
Greenily – my asset artist, logo designer, & fellow fan of green. Also enlightened me about Comic Neue when I mentioned Comic Sans was my favorite font, bless.
Galaxy Smash – hypeman who helped kill my indecisiveness whenever it reared its ugly head
Launch – the 1 who gave me that 1st push into designing & has been a source of sarcastic jokes & valuable advice since. Did I mention a true friend too?
Mintlodica – giving me my own space in your community to let me flourish & passing on your encouragement
CKC Discord – the support & feedback from this server has helped me tremendously as well as allowed me to learn so much about mech keebs in the cutest, most welcoming space
Lizcuits – if waterbenders are masters of water, then she’s a master of renders. Just look at those 4ks! Many laughs were had at the unpublished ridiculous renders done for the lulz. Helped me with the Hangul too!
Sentry – extremely chill, knowledgeable & down-to-Earth viking who doubled as my kitting adviser that never missed a beat nor a DM
Hakata – vector vigilante that helped me slay my issues with SVGs
Creative Collaborators – thank you all for believing in DSA Encore & wanting to lend me your creativity & talents for the set. I’m so excited for everyone to see what we have planned!


I spent 1.5hrs slaving away at this outdated UI so if there are formatting mistakes, feel free to point it out. I did this on a new set of blank keycaps so there are bound to be typos. I'm sorry. I hope the fancy diamond renders make up for it! :D

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If you're going to "advise" on how big of a legal risk this is, please don't. Thank you for the concern, I appreciate everyone trying to help, but I've already considered all of it - I really have - and will be continuing with the project as far as possible. For implicit reasons, I have that covered (for now). I strongly encourage you not to focus on the legal risk I'm taking, and instead focus on comments that have to do with the keyset (kitting, color, etc.). Wear a mask, wash your hands. Thank you!

DSA Encore was created under Riot Games’ “Legal Jibber Jabber” policy using assets owned by Riot Games. Riot Games does not endorse or sponsor this project. Some novelties subject to change.

« Last Edit: Thu, 12 November 2020, 18:05:30 by AstroBunny »

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:33:25 »
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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:33:29 »
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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:33:53 »
NICE

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:40:57 »
This looks so good~ I love the colors so much, great work!!

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:47:49 »
so this is definitely ifk lol nobody else does that kitting

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:55:35 »
Quote
Legal Jibber Jabber
Last Updated: August 2018

We love our players and the awesome stuff they create. We support players who use our intellectual property (“IP”) to create free fan projects for the benefit of the community (“Projects”). We’re generally on board with Projects that follow the rules outlined below, but we can still shut down any Project at any time if we decide it misinterprets these rules or uses our IP inappropriately.

1. What can I develop with Riot’s IP?
TL;DR - Cool free stuff for the community to enjoy, with some exceptions

By formal decree of the Demacian High Court (our legal team): on the condition that you follow all of the rules described in this policy (the “Rules”) and the Terms of Use, Riot Games (“Riot” or “We”) grants you a personal, non-exclusive, non-sublicenseable, non-transferable, revocable, limited license for you to use, display and create derivative works based upon Riot’s IP, strictly for noncommercial (except as specifically provided below) community use. We reserve the right to deny anyone the use of our IP at any time, for any reason or no reason, including when we decide, in our sole and absolute discretion, that you are using our IP inappropriately. If we deny you the right to use our IP, you must stop developing, publishing, or distributing your Project immediately.

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TL;DR - We allow passive ad revenue generation for some content, subscriptions and donations on streaming channels, and some commercial projects that comply with our API Terms and Policies and use a valid API key

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Unless you have a written license agreement with us, you may not use any of our logos or trademarks anywhere in your Project or on any website, advertising material, video, or other publication. You may not register domain names, social media accounts, or similar stuff that uses Riot Games or any of our trademarks, trade names, character names, etc. You may not use our trademarks or names related to our IP as keywords or internet search tags. 

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If you share your Project with others, please conspicuously include the following notice (e.g., on your Project’s website):

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https://www.riotgames.com/en/legal

Offline NotJALC

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 17:13:21 »
I'm so happy your project is coming to life so fast Astro! Congrats, and you can be sure i'll be the baddest bish with my new keyset once I get it in my hands!

Offline konstantin

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 17:21:50 »
Which manufacturer is this? Presumably IFK? You should include key information like this in your OP. You should also specify that it's dyesub, it might not be obvious to everyone.

Offline Raravin

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:05:44 »
Honestly,

Best of luck. I wont be shocked if this gets pulled you are playing with riots current huge money maker. That has links to GIDLE and Twice, two other big idol groups.

The last two Idol GB had a super quick legal action, GMK Blink and KAT Comet (though not as big the desk mat got pulled day 1)

I mean im all for if trying, wish you luck just don't be surprised if hitting a huge wall of legal action.

To the real issues I have is 1, the helmet looks odd to me just empty honestly, 2. Your sig is off, you need to put a "code" section above it and post it so people can copy paste.
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:38:29 by Raravin »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:09:36 »
It would be nice to include an alpha set without the hangul sublegends. other than that I wish for the best with ur IC

Offline AstroBunny

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:21:58 »
Honestly,

Best of luck. I wont be shocked if this gets pulled you are playing with riots current huge money maker. That has links to GIDLE and Twice, two other big idol groups.

The last two Idol GB had a super quick legal action, GMK Blink and KAT Comet (though not as big the desk mat got pulled day 1)

I mean im all for if trying, wish you luck just don't be surprised if hitting a huge wall of legal action.

To the real issues I have is 1, the helmet looks odd to me just empty honestly, 2. Your sig is off, you need to put a "code" section above it and post it so people can copy paste.

Thanks for the tip about the signature, much appreciated :)\

And yeah I wouldn't be shocked either. Tons of ppl seem to think I didn't do my research, weigh the pros and cons, and reach out to the right people for this, it's hilarious. But I wasn't going to not at least try with this, and I didn't half ass this effort either. I know there are ppl who would love to see Encore get shut down, but that's not going to stop me from doing my best :D

Nothing great without risk was ever made.
« Last Edit: Thu, 12 November 2020, 17:41:36 by AstroBunny »

Offline Raravin

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:29:04 »
Honestly,

Best of luck. I wont be shocked if this gets pulled you are playing with riots current huge money maker. That has links to GIDLE and Twice, two other big idol groups.

The last two Idol GB had a super quick legal action, GMK Blink and KAT Comet (though not as big the desk mat got pulled day 1)

I mean im all for if trying, wish you luck just don't be surprised if hitting a huge wall of legal action.

To the real issues I have is 1, the helmet looks odd to me just empty honestly, 2. Your sig is off, you need to put a "code" section above it and post it so people can copy paste.

Thanks for the tip about the signature, much appreciated :)\

And yeah I wouldn't be shocked either. Tons of ppl seem to think I didn't do my research, weigh the pros and cons, and reach out to the right people for this, it's hilarious really. WCS would be I get shut down. Oh wellm I move on to my next keyset that's all. But I wasn't going to not at least try with this, and I didn't half ass this effort either. I know there are ppl who would love to see Encore get shut down, but that's not going to stop me from doing my best :D

Nothing great without risk was ever made.

Say do research but missed the line of  No commercial projects (except…)
TL;DR - We allow passive ad revenue generation for some content, subscriptions and donations on streaming channels, and some commercial projects that comply with our API Terms and Policies and use a valid API key

You may not create commercial Projects, including any Project that crowdsources any portion of its funding, any Project that involves a business or legal entity, or any Project where you gate the content with a paywall (e.g., Patreon, YouTube Premium, etc.) without a written license agreement from us. We have only three exceptions.


Seems like you didnt, not to be a **** but the way its worded seems pretty cut and dry that this cant run.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:43:05 »

Tons of ppl seem to think I didn't do my research, weigh the pros and cons, and reach out to the right people for this, it's hilarious really.

This comment comes off extremely cocky, people are just trying to give you advice. Nobody was saying you didn't do your research. They just linked the legal site. I agree with Raravin, I think this might break the "No commercial projects" rule that they have. I'd be interested to see what they have to say if you did contact them about the set. We could totally be wrong with this, I'm always interested in hearing more about these things, what makes a keyset break IP, and what doesn't I know a ton of anime sets are grey area for IP.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 18:45:47 »
Good luck, but Riot isn't a company I would take a chance on personally... they will defend their IP.

Offline AstroBunny

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:04:23 »

Tons of ppl seem to think I didn't do my research, weigh the pros and cons, and reach out to the right people for this, it's hilarious really.

This comment comes off extremely cocky, people are just trying to give you advice. Nobody was saying you didn't do your research. They just linked the legal site. I agree with Raravin, I think this might break the "No commercial projects" rule that they have. I'd be interested to see what they have to say if you did contact them about the set. We could totally be wrong with this, I'm always interested in hearing more about these things, what makes a keyset break IP, and what doesn't I know a ton of anime sets are grey area for IP.

"Trying to give me advice"

They linked it when I already linked it in my post so what kind of advice is that??? How is linking something I ALREADY LINKED helpful at all? The speed at which they went to copy paste highlight link it as a comment seemed more like just that they wanted to be the 1st to "do something" which I found both annoying and amusing. It was not advice, and came across to me like they were trying to make it seem like I didn't do any research, which I found extremely offensive. I did not "miss the line" bla bla bla

I am not obligated to explicitly explain how I went about doing my research and who I talked to nor do I have the energy to type it out, but if things are so "cut and dry", why aren't they also linking the legal to everyone who sells digital/physical fanart/fanmerch of LoL at conventions (like Anime Expo) or SakimiChan, a literal Patreon artist that Riot Games very aware of and is not in possession of a written licensed agreement.

TLDR; I OBVIOUSLY KNOW VERY WELL THIS IS A RISK AND I DECIDED I WAS OK WITH THE RISK <3 I went into this half-expecting someone spiteful or petty enough to do their best to get this taken down. I will deal with that if it happens as I said so previously. Unless you are Riot Games, I am not looking for legal advice on this. Thank you.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:07:38 »
Please... consider making more posts and getting to know the community a bit before (build rapport) you make your Interest Check your very first post.
It's not a requirement but it's nice to know that you've read around the forum, and it helps when someone sees even a vaguely familiar face.

Your signature/header:
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KDA Banner, for reference:
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I am by no means a lawyer or legal expert, nor am I a KDA fan, but this is playing with very very dangerous fire, IMO.
Additionally, is the KDA Font even allowed/released for commercial use?

Edit:
At least you didn't stick with the last name it had.


Historically, we've had GMK Blink get C&D'd completely out of existence for more subtle references, and the deskmat for KAT Comet got pulled. [edit: see below]
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:44:01 by Xerpocalypse »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:11:42 »
Please... consider making more posts and getting to know the community a bit before (build rapport) you make your Interest Check your very first post.

Your signature/header:
Show Image


KDA Banner, for reference:
Show Image


I am by no means a lawyer or legal expert, nor am I a KDA fan, but this is playing with very very dangerous fire, IMO.
Additionally, is the KDA Font even allowed/released for commercial use?

Edit:
At least you didn't stick with the last name it had.
Show Image


Historically, we've had GMK Blink get DMCA'd completely out of existence for more subtle references, and the deskmat for KAT Comet got pulled.

I mean should I also bring up the point of some of the stuff is legit ripped from characters like kisa cannons, the wolf  from akali helmet legit from the music video, should we just build an imgur album.

I am the #1 defender of sets that are close in colors  and stuff and not the one to bring up negative **** but come on.
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:17:38 by Raravin »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:35:38 »
Honestly,

Best of luck. I wont be shocked if this gets pulled you are playing with riots current huge money maker. That has links to GIDLE and Twice, two other big idol groups.

The last two Idol GB had a super quick legal action, GMK Blink and KAT Comet (though not as big the desk mat got pulled day 1)

I mean im all for if trying, wish you luck just don't be surprised if hitting a huge wall of legal action.

To the real issues I have is 1, the helmet looks odd to me just empty honestly, 2. Your sig is off, you need to put a "code" section above it and post it so people can copy paste.

just sliding in to say the deskmat for comet is cancelled not because of legal action, but simpliy the guy I hired to make it went to get smokes and never came back.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:38:45 »
Honestly,

Best of luck. I wont be shocked if this gets pulled you are playing with riots current huge money maker. That has links to GIDLE and Twice, two other big idol groups.

The last two Idol GB had a super quick legal action, GMK Blink and KAT Comet (though not as big the desk mat got pulled day 1)

I mean im all for if trying, wish you luck just don't be surprised if hitting a huge wall of legal action.

To the real issues I have is 1, the helmet looks odd to me just empty honestly, 2. Your sig is off, you need to put a "code" section above it and post it so people can copy paste.

just sliding in to say the deskmat for comet is cancelled not because of legal action, but simpliy the guy I hired to make it went to get smokes and never came back.

Thanks for the clarification! That's a huge shame, I hope you were able to dispute the Paypal transaction and get your money back.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:54:37 »
Way to come off as overbearingly rude for your first IC post. Seriously, good luck with it. You'll need it.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 20:35:25 »
Love the colors and the theming, looking forward to this gb!

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:01:56 »

Tons of ppl seem to think I didn't do my research, weigh the pros and cons, and reach out to the right people for this, it's hilarious really.

This comment comes off extremely cocky, people are just trying to give you advice. Nobody was saying you didn't do your research. They just linked the legal site. I agree with Raravin, I think this might break the "No commercial projects" rule that they have. I'd be interested to see what they have to say if you did contact them about the set. We could totally be wrong with this, I'm always interested in hearing more about these things, what makes a keyset break IP, and what doesn't I know a ton of anime sets are grey area for IP.

"Trying to give me advice"

They linked it when I already linked it in my post so what kind of advice is that??? How is linking something I ALREADY LINKED helpful at all? The speed at which they went to copy paste highlight link it as a comment seemed more like just that they wanted to be the 1st to "do something" which I found both annoying and amusing. It was not advice, and came across to me like they were trying to make it seem like I didn't do any research, which I found extremely offensive. I did not "miss the line" bla bla bla

I am not obligated to explicitly explain how I went about doing my research and who I talked to nor do I have the energy to type it out, but if things are so "cut and dry", why aren't they also linking the legal to everyone who sells digital/physical fanart/fanmerch of LoL at conventions (like Anime Expo) or SakimiChan, a literal Patreon artist that Riot Games very aware of and is not in possession of a written licensed agreement.

TLDR; I OBVIOUSLY KNOW VERY WELL THIS IS A RISK AND I DECIDED I WAS OK WITH THE RISK <3 I went into this half-expecting someone spiteful or petty enough to do their best to get this taken down. I will deal with that if it happens as I said so previously. Unless you are Riot Games, I am not looking for legal advice on this. Thank you.

It's very fair that to assume that a random person on the internet has not done their research (I'm not saying you haven't). You may have linked the their legal code/reference but you cannot assume that we have interpreted it the same way you have and clearly that was the case (a problem that is prevalent throughout law and and many other fields). Give us your interpretation to why this set should go on without a hitch.

As for more interpretations, I can take the statement "I OBVIOUSLY KNOW VERY WELL THIS IS A RISK AND I DECIDED I WAS OK WITH THE RISK" in a few different ways.

1. You know this is a risk and you may be actually violating their code but either making the money from the set is worth it.
2. You know this is a risk and you may be actually violating their code but the set is so good that it is worth it.
3. The risk isn't yours to bear which is what makes the risk okay
4. You see a way this set could work but you have to be careful

What all of them have in common that you may be violating their legal reference, which is what it makes me concerned for those that may give money to a set that has an issue of the legality of it. We have recent examples like GMK White Wolf and Blink that make us a little more sensitive about sets like this and that is completely fair. Perhaps after dealing with GMK Blink, TKC may have more insight to what is allowed and what is not? (my assumption is that this is IFK) Perhaps an explanation of that would be helpful.

Moving on to comments of the set itself; I do not like the colour combination and I'm partial to the cherry profile. Although I do enjoy league, this set is not for me. For K/DA fans, maybe you could consider a golden accent colour as I believe that the K/DA outfits have golden accents.

Again, this is not meant to be an attack on you but more on the emphasis of communication and I hope you figure out a way for this set to work out.  ;D

« Last Edit: Sat, 07 November 2020, 10:06:35 by ilikerustoo »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:06:03 »
I don't necessarily agree with the way op is running their IC, their tone, or the subject matter of the set, but I find it rather ironic and a bit strange that the majority of the negative commenters are all people who have run sets profiting off of others IP, without the owners permission. Maybe I'm missing something.

Offline Raravin

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:09:17 »
I don't necessarily agree with the way op is running their IC, their tone, or the subject matter of the set, but I find it rather ironic and a bit strange that the majority of the negative commenters are all people who have run sets profiting off of others IP, without the owners permission. Maybe I'm missing something.

Partial difference is anime has always had a gray area aka doujhin etc that they allow, know about and just sort of let it be cause "free advertising" most dont also have that legal term like Riot does blatantly saying you cannot sell it with our assets

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:18:04 »
I don't necessarily agree with the way op is running their IC, their tone, or the subject matter of the set, but I find it rather ironic and a bit strange that the majority of the negative commenters are all people who have run sets profiting off of others IP, without the owners permission. Maybe I'm missing something.

You're right, there is a certain sense of irony there. However, it's not like derivative fan works are a new thing in this hobby - it does seem like pushing the boundaries further and further is a relatively recent trend, though I could be wrong.
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:26:28 by Xerpocalypse »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:26:03 »
The amount of geekhack lawyers and butthurt grown men over internet words is astounding...

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:56:27 »
like the set a lot. huge fan of kda and would love to see this come to life but yea, glw riot

you should also stop posting projects on instagram and acting as if they're solely yours when they're not :)

stop being so rude to others, glwic!
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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 22:27:33 »
Not a fan of the font but others seem to be. GLWIC!

Offline AstroBunny

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 23:29:10 »
Please... consider making more posts and getting to know the community a bit before (build rapport) you make your Interest Check your very first post.
It's not a requirement but it's nice to know that you've read around the forum, and it helps when someone sees even a vaguely familiar face.

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KDA Banner, for reference:
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I am by no means a lawyer or legal expert, nor am I a KDA fan, but this is playing with very very dangerous fire, IMO.
Additionally, is the KDA Font even allowed/released for commercial use?

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At least you didn't stick with the last name it had.
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Historically, we've had GMK Blink get C&D'd completely out of existence for more subtle references, and the deskmat for KAT Comet got pulled. [edit: see below]


Thank you for confirming I did such a good job emulating the art style the keyset is based on! That's my goal, despite the risk that I'm well aware of.
As for your font concern, a quick Google search by anyone will produce https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/jjfs29/kda_font/
Worry not fellow keeber, I've done more than enough of worrying on my end.
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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 01:44:35 »
I think this set is fine however I won’t be supporting it. Your responses in this thread come off quite cocky and arrogant and for being so new and to treat the community this way is the wrong way to gain any real support in you as a person. Even complaining about slaving away making the IC makes me believe that if you can’t commit to some text why is your potential customer believe that you actually care about putting the effort into your own IC. Good luck, you will need it.

Lastly if there is a response to this I won’t be replying as I’d rather not bump this thread any more.
« Last Edit: Sat, 07 November 2020, 01:55:47 by nuttykids3 »

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 02:18:56 »
Historically, we've had GMK Blink get C&D'd completely out of existence for more subtle references

"Blink" is literally a trademarked name used by Blackpink for marketing. Subtle?

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 03:00:23 »
The fascinating thing is that you could have straight up not told me, personally, that this was from LoL and I wouldn't have thought anymore of it. I guess if it's enough of a homage for you to feel happy creating an unofficial product as a love letter to a company that doesn't even want you to distribute this, then by all means. I've never been a fan of selling a set solely based on recognition without getting licensing, it feels alienating to everyone except those in that circle and disingenuous to to the source material. Without your inspiration and themes all that is left is the colors, and man have I seen what you have chosen in many sets before.

However it is smart that you're going with somebody like TKC and IFK as they don't have harsh policies in place to strike this kinda stuff down like GMK does. Gotta find those manus that don't care!
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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 09:13:21 »
I strongly encourage you to not focus on the legal risk - that's my worry, not yours

When you’re talking about a project where you would be looking to solicit money from interested parties who would like to buy the finished product, the legal risk is implicitly their concern too.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 11:05:10 »
Most of these pre existing icons were created by riot which is kinda iffy but you seem confident in it maybe because of your personal connections to riot. But won’t be supporting this set especially with the bad attitude you’ve displayed towards people that have brought up concerns with this set. People that want to buy this set have a right to be concerned if they’re going to be putting money into it.

Offline SnowyMinion

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 13:59:20 »
The set's very cute and badass but I find it a bit weird that you're against people voicing their concerns when this is an IC

Offline Honey

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 22:03:11 »
In your link to Riot’s Jibber Jabber it states that “You may not create commercial Projects, including any Project that crowdsources any portion of its funding, any Project that involves a business or legal entity..”
Not a legal expert by any means but I think this may fall under that category and would need approval by Riot.

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:11:36 »
Is that main legend font...impact???

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:15:59 »
Is that main legend font...impact???

Huh, seems like it. I didn't even know that it was impact until I checked. I think it still fits the theme, though.

Offline Katsurio

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 21:10:02 »
Is this going to be made by Signature Plastics, Infinikey, or whom (question within a question: is this the correct use of whom, lol?)?

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 22:05:35 »
Is this going to be made by Signature Plastics, Infinikey, or whom (question within a question: is this the correct use of whom, lol?)?
I’ll just answer this on behalf of her! It will be Infinikey/TKC

Offline koe

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 15:39:58 »
What a mess.

I'm a huge fan of the whole KDA group that Riot has put out, but I won't be supporting this kit.
Like others have said, your way of handling and replying to other members is rude.
Do you really think people are NOT going to discuss legal matters when it's something you're asking them to put money into?

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If you're going to "advise" on how big of a legal risk this is, please don't. Thank you for the concern, I appreciate everyone trying to help, but I've already considered all of it - I really have - and will be continuing with the project as far as possible. For implicit reasons, I have that covered (for now). I strongly encourage you not to focus on the legal risk I'm taking, and instead focus on comments that have to do with the keyset

This just reads like a red flag to me. "Don't ask about the legality of this, really, dont ask if I have the rights to do this".

You obviously could have contacted Riot and gotten their approval, but I don't know why you're so against sharing your reasoning. It's great and all that you seemed to have figured it out, but we don't know what the reasons are. Riot's legal page, as mentioned by other users, prohibits projects like these. So when you say you've done all your research and someone reads this, they're going to wonder if you missed that section. What else do you expect when you linked the legal site and it literally says that this project is against TOS?

What's so hard about explaining why this GB isn't in violation? You're asking people to invest into your project but you're extremely standoffish when people voice their concerns.

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I am not obligated to explicitly explain how I went about doing my research and who I talked to nor do I have the energy to type it out

We are also not obligated to support this GB. This is even more red flags when you say that you refuse to explain legal issues.
"nor do I have the energy to type it out" I don't even know what to say to this. Again, you want people's support and investment but you don't have the energy to properly reply to concerns.

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everyone who sells digital/physical fanart/fanmerch
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SakimiChan, a literal Patreon artist that Riot Games very aware of and is not in possession of a written licensed agreement
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KNOW VERY WELL THIS IS A RISK AND I DECIDED I WAS OK WITH THE RISK

I could be completely wrong, but from what I've read it seems like you haven't actually gotten approval.


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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 15:49:11 »
Oh no Kpop themed things are never a good idea
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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 13:05:21 »
Hoping Riot polishes it up and runs this because I actually quite like the colors and imagery that Riot used to develop this theme. Riot has always had an incredible team of very talented artists and designers and I enjoy the effort that Riot puts into their video game and merchandise. Kudos to you Riot!

Offline mustardgreens

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 13:19:13 »
If there is a lawsuit, you probably won't be able to fulfill orders, and people might lose their money. This is a valid concern, and you should try to take these comments both seriously and gracefully. Posting an Interest Check but saying "don't say x or y" isn't being true to the spirit of an IC because it detracts from your ability to check interest.

Anyway GL, I do like seeing DSA sets.
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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 23:42:41 »
gibe now lol

Offline Jolt

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 10:39:04 »
I am all in on this set

Offline Allkchi

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Re: [IC] DSA Encore
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 13:54:12 »
Damn, I was excited to see the kit and everything. Love the colors even thought the lettering looks a little wonky. Still, it bears repeating like everyone else has said. IC's are just that. Interest checks. You're trying to run a product that the community has to be interested in buying in the first place so it's a hella bad look coming off as arrogant. Enjoy the set, but not supporting your toxicity.