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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #600 on: Fri, 21 January 2022, 14:25:34 »
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« Reply #601 on: Fri, 21 January 2022, 14:51:11 »
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/

TL;DR - Conclusions: Our study is the first to demonstrate the presence of the COVID-19 virus in the penis long after the initial infection in humans.
Our results also suggest that widespread endothelial cell dysfunction from COVID-19 infection can contribute to ED.
Future studies will evaluate novel molecular mechanisms of how COVID-19 infection leads to ED.
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 January 2022, 19:52:34 by fohat.digs »
“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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« Reply #602 on: Sat, 22 January 2022, 00:46:50 »
I keep getting these texts:

THE CDC WANTS YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE HOT SINGLES IN YOUR AREA WITH COVID-19. SO HOT THEY ARE BURNING UP!

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #603 on: Sat, 22 January 2022, 02:52:59 »
I keep getting these texts:

THE CDC WANTS YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE HOT SINGLES IN YOUR AREA WITH COVID-19. SO HOT THEY ARE BURNING UP!
Well it's a step up from e-mail spam - at least it's written in proper English.  Though it could be read as a warning so maybe it's genuine?

The problem is aside from a handful of people coming out of a coma recently I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of Covid by now and has decided what they are (not) going to do about it so it's surely too late.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/

TL;DR - Conclusions: Our study is the first to demonstrate the presence of the COVID-19 virus in the penis long after the initial infection in humans.
Our results also suggest that widespread endothelial cell dysfunction from COVID-19 infection can contribute to ED.
Future studies will evaluate novel molecular mechanisms of how COVID-19 infection leads to ED.
Is this scary or coincidental?  I don't understand the medical terms but I do note they had just two samples - that's never enough for a proper study.  Covid symptoms are massively varied so just because two people who had Covid got ED doesn't mean 99.99% of people wont.  Any Covid survivor non ED sufferers up for giving them a sample?
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #604 on: Sat, 22 January 2022, 10:08:17 »
I keep getting these texts:

THE CDC WANTS YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE HOT SINGLES IN YOUR AREA WITH COVID-19. SO HOT THEY ARE BURNING UP!

Text back,  Install heat-exchanger + thermal compound.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #605 on: Sat, 22 January 2022, 10:10:42 »
Is this scary or coincidental?  I don't understand the medical terms but I do note they had just two samples - that's never enough for a proper study.  Covid symptoms are massively varied so just because two people who had Covid got ED doesn't mean 99.99% of people wont.  Any Covid survivor non ED sufferers up for giving them a sample?

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #606 on: Mon, 24 January 2022, 16:52:29 »
Why are we spending all this money on Paxlovid,

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #607 on: Tue, 25 January 2022, 11:34:52 »
Omicron BA.2 just released

“We know that omicron … can clearly evade preexisting immunity” from both vaccines and exposure to other variants of the virus, he said. “What we don’t know yet is whether son-of-omicron does that better or worse than omicron. So that’s an open question.”

On Monday, more than 695,000 new coronavirus infections were reported and testing shows that almost all are from omicron.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #608 on: Tue, 25 January 2022, 12:15:32 »
Success for a virus means infecting the maximum number of people and therefore spreading as fast and far as possible.

It is not in their interest to kill their victims, and being able to re-infect the same person repeatedly is a big plus.

Influenza, in that sense, represents a very successful virus in its gradual mutation and amazing endurance.
 
“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #609 on: Tue, 25 January 2022, 17:52:23 »
Influenza, in that sense, represents a very successful virus in its gradual mutation and amazing endurance.
Viruses aren't conscious or even really alive, tbh. They are simply mutation made flesh; an inevitable by-product of us being based on DNA. The Monkey Shakespeare analogy essentially predicts that near-limitless, imperfect copying of a list of commands (which is really what DNA is) will at some point end up with an erroneous command that reads "replicate me infinitely", and that's how viruses came to be. Their existence is pretty much guaranteed; compared to complicated organisms like us, the odds of them existing versus "humans" existing is virtually infinite. The fact that they mutate so rapidly is also why I've found viruses to be an excellent way to explain evolution to religious people, by the way.

Just some random musings on your thoughts. Of course your points are all completely true. Evolutionarily speaking Omikron is a much more succesful virus than Delta is, and should compete it out of the human reservoir. In essence, Omikron is saving us from Delta.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #610 on: Tue, 25 January 2022, 19:30:47 »

an erroneous command that reads "replicate me infinitely"


I would call that a "core" command.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/25/e2024815118

TL;DR - "Although each infected person carries an estimated 1 billion to 100 billion virions during peak infection, their total mass is no more than 0.1 mg. This curiously implies that all SARS-CoV-2 virions currently in all human hosts have a mass of between 100 g and 10 kg."
“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #611 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 09:21:46 »
Viruses aren't conscious or even really alive, tbh. They are simply mutation made flesh; an inevitable by-product of us being based on DNA.

Viruses are nano-machines.

The ones that hurt us, are Typically those that JUMP HOST from another animal,  Zoonotic.   They're most often harmless and perform life functions in the original Host, it's only when they jump, the inherent incompatibility turns deadly.

As for Conscious-ness,  They Run on the ANIMAL consciousness, INCLUDING human consciousness.   OUR DECISIONS greatly influence where these incompatible nano-machines end up.

IF NOT for Concentrated Animal Agriculture and Urbanization, we would've AVOIDED the vast majority of plagues.


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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #612 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 16:38:58 »
Viruses aren't conscious or even really alive, tbh. They are simply mutation made flesh; an inevitable by-product of us being based on DNA.

Viruses are nano-machines.

...

As for Conscious-ness,  They Run on the ANIMAL consciousness, INCLUDING human consciousness.


I think you really should look up what viruses are, how DNA works, and how cells affect their function :p .
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #613 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 16:45:36 »
I think you really should look up what viruses are, how DNA works, and how cells affect their function :p .


"" OUR DECISIONS greatly influence where these incompatible nano-machines end up. ""

I was clearly talking about the consequence of human agency, problems as actuated by our collective decisions.

But Even outside of that, we know that biochemical messengers impact gene expression, it's still possible that there is a direct consciousness link between the nano-machine's behavior and thought.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #614 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 17:03:27 »
Grrr, I really hate people...

One of my aunts has a boyfriend who "just has a mild cough, it's just a cold", well it turned out to be Covid... They just found out after she went around hugging and kissing the whole family at a family gathering earlier this week.

Stop assuming it's "just a cold" and even if it is just a cold, why do people think it's okay to just pass it on to everyone around you?
And to those who say "Well we're all gonna get it anyhow",  yeah, because of people like you! Not everyone will, close but not everyone, but thanks for not even allowing me a fighting chance and making that decision for me.

Soo pissed right now.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #615 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 17:38:23 »
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« Reply #616 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 20:32:50 »
Others at the gathering (which was not large) went and got tested, all were negative so I should be fine.

If you're sick, don't willingly pass it around, doesn't matter if it's Flu, a cold or Covid, no one wants to share your misery and unless.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #617 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 21:12:30 »
Others at the gathering (which was not large) went and got tested, all were negative so I should be fine.

If you're sick, don't willingly pass it around, doesn't matter if it's Flu, a cold or Covid, no one wants to share your misery and unless.


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« Reply #618 on: Wed, 26 January 2022, 23:03:19 »
No Touching, Please..  Back, get back, No touching, hey, you , back.... BACK....

And no newpapers to swat them with!
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #619 on: Thu, 27 January 2022, 03:22:43 »
I think you really should look up what viruses are, how DNA works, and how cells affect their function :p .


"" OUR DECISIONS greatly influence where these incompatible nano-machines end up. ""

I was clearly talking about the consequence of human agency, problems as actuated by our collective decisions.

But Even outside of that, we know that biochemical messengers impact gene expression, it's still possible that there is a direct consciousness link between the nano-machine's behavior and thought.

You keep calling them nano-machines but they're NOTHING like that, and they have no behaviour or thought. That's my whole point. The way they work is based on nothing but inevitability.

Others at the gathering (which was not large) went and got tested, all were negative so I should be fine.

If you're sick, don't willingly pass it around, doesn't matter if it's Flu, a cold or Covid, no one wants to share your misery and unless.


This is going to create a further Intimacy Gap in American Culture.

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Americans are already ultra non-touchy xD . Could it get any worse? :p

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« Reply #620 on: Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:33:55 »
You keep calling them nano-machines but they're NOTHING like that, and they have no behaviour or thought. That's my whole point. The way they work is based on nothing but inevitability.

I'm not arguing that they're capable of independent thought,   only that there is extremely intimate "interlink"  between their whereabout and behavior WITH the collective animal consciousness.

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« Reply #621 on: Thu, 27 January 2022, 16:58:14 »
Oooooo.....

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #622 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 09:22:06 »
ffffffffffffffffffffffff,     are you serious....

This thread on reddit,  OMG... Read the Top Comment   ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff


https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/sezbww/its_been_2_years_who_here_doesnt_know_anyone_who/

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« Reply #623 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 09:52:22 »
I tried to read that, but reddit always just looks like random gibberish to me.
“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #624 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 10:34:07 »
The thread title is,

its_been_2_years_who_here_doesnt_know_anyone_who

followed by top comment written by ANTIVAXXERS

My dad almost died from cancer because covid kept canceling his treatments

then

This is the real health crisis

then

This hits home hard for me. My father in law kept getting “elective” checkups pushed back for 8 MONTHS due to local hospital being “overwhelmed” by COVID. Meanwhile he proceeded to go from a solidly built 230 to a frail 150. Turns out he has stomach cancer. The only reason he was seen was because we just said **** it and took him to the ER.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #625 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 11:11:34 »

comment written by ANTIVAXXERS


****posting by anti-vaxxers ?

Front Page News !


“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #626 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 11:16:51 »

comment written by ANTIVAXXERS


****posting by anti-vaxxers ?

Front Page News !




don't believe in covid,  yet blame covid for their own canceled cancer appointments.

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« Reply #627 on: Sat, 29 January 2022, 22:54:21 »
Not keeping up with news lately,


Neil Young/ Joni Mitchell are removing their music from Spotify because of confusing anti-vaccination statements on a certain podcast

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« Reply #628 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 08:41:13 »

confusing anti-vaccination statements


Young and Mitchell have always been eloquent artists of great integrity. (is it coincidence that both were born Canadian?)

The reason that idiocy and terrorism can gain and maintain momentum is that the general public shrugs its collective shoulder and does nothing to repudiate it.
“In future cases we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”
** by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas 2022-06-24 **
- Griswold v. Connecticut is a 1965 decision that married couples have a right to privacy, including on decisions about contraception, and that a Connecticut law banning contraceptive access even for married couples was thus unconstitutional.
- Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision striking down a Texas law banning sexual acts between people of the same sex.
- Obergefell v. Hodges was the 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
What all of these decisions have in common beyond that they gave people rights that Thomas does not want them to have is that the court’s decisions invoked “substantive due process,” a legal argument Thomas thinks is in itself illegitimate.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #629 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 09:09:26 »
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Xenon gas MRI

Long Covid patients have poor lung function despite never having required Hospital care.

Large dark areas on the right represents extremely poor gas transfer capability of the lungs, very poor function = breathlessness (a hallmark of Long Covid).

Good bye sports career,  basically turning people into late stage smokers even if they've never smoked.  <chronic low oxygen> also raises the risk of certain cancer types.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #630 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 10:05:46 »
Not keeping up with news lately,


Neil Young/ Joni Mitchell are removing their music from Spotify because of confusing anti-vaccination statements on a certain podcast

time to torrent everything ! no more streaming ! : )

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #631 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 17:02:47 »
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Xenon gas MRI

Long Covid patients have poor lung function despite never having required Hospital care.

Large dark areas on the right represents extremely poor gas transfer capability of the lungs, very poor function = breathlessness (a hallmark of Long Covid).

Good bye sports career,  basically turning people into late stage smokers even if they've never smoked.  <chronic low oxygen> also raises the risk of certain cancer types.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #632 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 18:17:32 »
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #633 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 19:02:42 »
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #634 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 20:32:40 »
Must have been before TP went vegan.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #635 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 20:36:55 »
This dumbass who is refusing a heart transplant because he doesn't want to get vaxxed, quite literally choosing to die on that hill.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #636 on: Sun, 30 January 2022, 21:26:59 »
This dumbass who is refusing a heart transplant because he doesn't want to get vaxxed, quite literally choosing to die on that hill.


I thought he died, when was this ?

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #637 on: Mon, 31 January 2022, 02:41:15 »
This dumbass who is refusing a heart transplant because he doesn't want to get vaxxed, quite literally choosing to die on that hill.
I think that's a good thing. Wouldn't it be selfish to refuse to get vaxxed but then take up a perfectly good heart instead of someone who might actually deserve it? I think if you're gonna go anti-vaxx, you should take responsibility for it, and he did.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #638 on: Mon, 31 January 2022, 03:11:08 »
This dumbass who is refusing a heart transplant because he doesn't want to get vaxxed, quite literally choosing to die on that hill.


I thought he died, when was this ?


Just a few days ago, in Boston.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #639 on: Mon, 31 January 2022, 10:38:54 »
I think that's a good thing. Wouldn't it be selfish to refuse to get vaxxed but then take up a perfectly good heart instead of someone who might actually deserve it? I think if you're gonna go anti-vaxx, you should take responsibility for it, and he did.


I read that they don't allow antivaxxers to get transplants because the survival rate is far too low if the immune system isn't buffered first.

Major surgery has the same net effect of being temporarily extremely immuno-compromised.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #640 on: Tue, 01 February 2022, 19:55:18 »
A couple of months old, but still valid.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #641 on: Tue, 01 February 2022, 22:31:14 »
A couple of months old, but still valid.


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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #642 on: Tue, 08 February 2022, 13:01:37 »
Starting to look like, maybe 5-7 years .. what do you guys think, we'll get covid done with in 5-7 years ?

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #643 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 09:02:47 »
So..... doctors are saying,  if you get covid,  heart health goes pfffffttt.. <based on veterans study>

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #644 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 09:12:03 »
So..... doctors are saying,  if you get covid,  heart health goes pfffffttt.. <based on veterans study>
So even though when people catch the same variant they react differently if at all this study of mainly men (assuming veterans means ex-military) claims to have found a universal effect?  As usual, I'm sceptical.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #645 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 10:10:30 »
So..... doctors are saying,  if you get covid,  heart health goes pfffffttt.. <based on veterans study>
So even though when people catch the same variant they react differently if at all this study of mainly men (assuming veterans means ex-military) claims to have found a universal effect?  As usual, I'm sceptical.

 _________The researchers compared more than 150,000 veterans who survived for at least 30 days after contracting COVID-19 with two groups of uninfected people: a group of more than five million people who used the VA medical system during the pandemic, and a similarly sized group that used the system in 2017, before SARS-CoV-2 was circulating._____

Stroke risk +52%
Heart failure risk +72%

_____The risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.____

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #646 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 15:37:18 »
Stroke risk +52%
Heart failure risk +72%

Percentages only work when used in relation to a physical number.

Also, while some could be linked to Covid directly, how much was linked to people not going and doing their normal activities in fear of Covid?
Correlation is not always causation.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #647 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 15:41:59 »
Stroke risk +52%
Heart failure risk +72%

Percentages only work when used in relation to a physical number.

Also, while some could be linked to Covid directly, how much was linked to people not going and doing their normal activities in fear of Covid?
Correlation is not always causation.

Measurable at this scale, something really terrible has happened, and people's hearts are blowing up.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #648 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 15:58:35 »
Measurable smeasurable, computers and databases allow us to measure things far easier than we used to.

It still means nothing without a number to base it on, especially in this since it's a percentage, or a percentage.
If 1in 100,000 people have a problem and that percentage doubles, it's significant, but it's still only 2 in 100,000 people. Your odds of getting it are still pretty slim despite doubling.
Now if we're talking 1in 1500 people and it doubled, then yes, your odds got significantly worse.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #649 on: Fri, 11 February 2022, 16:58:40 »
Measurable smeasurable, computers and databases allow us to measure things far easier than we used to.

It still means nothing without a number to base it on, especially in this since it's a percentage, or a percentage.
If 1in 100,000 people have a problem and that percentage doubles, it's significant, but it's still only 2 in 100,000 people. Your odds of getting it are still pretty slim despite doubling.
Now if we're talking 1in 1500 people and it doubled, then yes, your odds got significantly worse.



For heart failure, it's +11.61 /1000 excess.

Those percentages are hazard ratios.