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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #400 on: Tue, 11 March 2025, 19:29:21 »
Labeling protestors as domestic terrorists, arresting and holding tourists with valid passports, deporting college students with green cards.

This is how it starts. Germany 1942 here we come!

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #401 on: Wed, 12 March 2025, 10:06:20 »
Christina Pagel - Diving into Data & Decision Making - 2025-03-11

"Censor, Purge, Defund: how Trump is following the authoritarian playbook on science and universities

I have mapped 35 of the Trump administration's attacks on science and universities to the authoritarian playbook - and consider what it means for attacks still to come.

This isn’t chaos — it’s a deliberate war on science and academic freedom. In just six weeks, the Trump administration has slashed research budgets, purged health and scientific agencies, censored research, and threatened universities.

Making a list of the actions taken since January 2025 reveals distinct patterns. Just as the administration’s actions as a whole are following an authoritarian playbook, so are the specific ways they are attacking science. I’ve displayed 35 distinct actions, grouped into three main categories:

Control of science to align with state ideology;

Undermining the independence of universities / suppressing dissent;

Maintaining geopolitical / economic goals."

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I have been hearing this and ignoring it for some time now, but this (rather long) article puts forth a seemingly solid argument. Let's really REALLY hope that it is bunk.

https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-trump-is-planning

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #402 on: Fri, 14 March 2025, 00:49:18 »
Schumer, seems like the democrats don't realllly want to defend medicaid and social security..

So you see,  Tp4 was accurate, on the statement, they're capitalists pigs all the same, all the way down.

We have a Systemic problem.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #403 on: Fri, 14 March 2025, 08:14:33 »

capitalists pigs .... all the way down.


Last time, Drumpf was feckless and ignorant, with feckless ignoramuses around him.

This time, he has the Project 2025 army driving him and his strategy. They now have unfettered power and are cunning enough to set up impossible conundrums for anyone hoping to thwart them.

And with the Muskrat as Court Jester creating incendiary diversions in every direction, ordinary people don't know where to turn.

I am inclined to agree with Schumer - as transcendentally horrible as a Federal Government "shutdown" would be, it would also create a golden opportunity to keep very much of the operation offline permanently.

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"“We are in a perverse, bizarro land where we’re having to decide between letting Donald Trump wreck the government this way or wreck the government that way,” New Jersey Democratic Senator Cory Booker said of Democrats’ predicament."

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And by the way, in a shutdown the courts shut down, so lawsuits could not be filed to stop the shutdown ....
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #404 on: Sat, 15 March 2025, 12:13:08 »
Trump broadcasting that CNN/ MSNBC are political arms of the democrats.

That's technically true, but no worse than Fox for the repooplicants.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #405 on: Sun, 16 March 2025, 20:00:55 »
It is to the point of absurdity that I am now considering the current GOP and citizens who support the actions of this administration to be Domestic Terrorists.
It feels like the most appropriate label for what is happening. I'd call them a cult, but that seems too melodramatic (even though I have watched a close family member, in no uncertain terms, be brainwashed and flip their entire moral compass, their entire previous career path, and everything they fought for, to supporting Trump. It breaks my heart.)   

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #406 on: Sun, 16 March 2025, 21:11:05 »

even though I have .... a close family member

flip their entire moral compass


Unfortunately I have 2 brothers and 2 sisters, and they all failed to recognize how evil Reagan was, and have stayed the course ever since - even as it has gotten exponentially worse.

Maybe it is like slowly boiling the frog.
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One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law’s protection most! — and listens to their testimony."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #408 on: Mon, 17 March 2025, 23:19:34 »
The two party system no longer works when one party dominates, and the other rolls over to expose their belly like a suicidal baby seal

We need a 3rd party, called the Citizens Of America Party, who stand against tyranny and law breakers and actually get **** done for the people who actually live in America.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #409 on: Mon, 17 March 2025, 23:56:09 »
Impossible, mathematically, our type of representative democracy will always reduce down to 2 parties.

This is a certainty.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #410 on: Tue, 18 March 2025, 08:18:11 »

Impossible, mathematically, our type of representative democracy will always reduce down to 2 parties.


Unfortunately, I have to agree.

Reading about the Founders and the writing of the Constitution, they constantly expressed their fear and loathing of "Factions" as they called parties, and relentlessly warned about the toxic effect that they would have on the country.

Of course, politicians almost immediately coalesced into 2 factions, and the names have changed over time - but not the dichotomy.

Imagine how, during the Civil War, that the "Democratic" party was the party of Southern slave owners, while the "Republican" party was the party of Northern abolitionists!
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #411 on: Tue, 18 March 2025, 08:59:42 »

stand against tyranny and law breakers and actually get **** done for the people who actually live in America.


This is called the Democratic Party. But unless it controls all 3 branches with a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, the plutocracy will find ways to thwart anything positive.
"If one really wishes to know how justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class.
One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law’s protection most! — and listens to their testimony."
- James Baldwin - No Name in the Street

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #412 on: Tue, 18 March 2025, 09:06:36 »

stand against tyranny and law breakers and actually get **** done for the people who actually live in America.


This is called the Democratic Party. But unless it controls all 3 branches with a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, the plutocracy will find ways to thwart anything positive.

That's a lie.   

Out of the entirety of washington, there's only Bernie Sanders working (for the people),  and the Democratic Party hates him.

The democrats and republicans in all MEANINGFUL/ Impactful ways, that being, Monetized WARS + Consumerist Capitalism, operate identically, absolute 0 distinction..

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #413 on: Tue, 18 March 2025, 09:49:34 »

there's only Bernie Sanders working (for the people)


I wore my "Bernie for President 2016" T-shirt yesterday and got compliments on it, even in deep-red Tennessee.

Too bad that is so far in the rear-view mirror now.
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« Reply #414 on: Tue, 18 March 2025, 17:32:53 »

there's only Bernie Sanders working (for the people)


I wore my "Bernie for President 2016" T-shirt yesterday and got compliments on it, even in deep-red Tennessee.

Too bad that is so far in the rear-view mirror now.


The Dems straight up sabotaged his campaign and torpedoed it TWICE! They can't even stop fighting amongst themselves to get anything done.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #415 on: Wed, 19 March 2025, 08:41:40 »
This is really confusing, why are people surprised pikachu at the Drumph-Pu7in phone calls.

I mean, Ukraine Already lost the war since, LAST YEAR, any more "fighting" is tapping mostly the 60 yr old guys.  What exactly can anyone do at this point beyond surrender.


We read these stupid articles that say things like this:

""Putin made the cessation of all military and intelligence aid to Ukraine a "key condition" for peace. Ukraine fears that without a strong military and defensive support from its partners, including a security guarantee, Russia will continue posing an existential threat.""


Russia is an existential threat, along with ANY other nv(lear armed country, with or without security guarantees, with or without military defensive support.

That doesn't change.  There's only 1 viable condition here where Ukraine survives at all, Surrender.

Biden was the worst on this,  that entire administration had NO PLAN, beyond fighting to the last Ukrainian, which is unethical.. And he really didn't care or perhaps understand ESCALATION. 


Nv(lear war isn't a war.
It ends in 2 hours, and EVERYONE DIES.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #416 on: Wed, 19 March 2025, 09:06:37 »
A real head scratcher this:

"""Germany's Pistorius said: "Putin is playing a game here and I am sure that the American president will not be able to stand by for long." He said there will come a time when Trump "will react, will have to react" to preserve the "strength and prestige" of the U.S."""


Germany believes, Trump cares about US. Prestige? While he plays golf most days, he's thinking, USA prestige.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #417 on: Fri, 21 March 2025, 15:39:24 »
remedy

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #418 on: Sun, 23 March 2025, 07:37:16 »
This is a long-ish article but very informative on the intentions of the Founders.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/23/2310971/-Federalism-the-Last-Defensive-Redoubt-is-in-the-States

TL;DR  version


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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #419 on: Sun, 23 March 2025, 07:41:05 »
This is a long-ish article but very informative on the intentions of the Founders.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/23/2310971/-Federalism-the-Last-Defensive-Redoubt-is-in-the-States



Fohat, Tp4 is confused by your perspective,  WE,  are the sheep.

What concern is it of yours who the Farmer is, or what Flag he waves.  They're here to slaughter us.


You're not part of the resistance, you're the product.

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« Reply #420 on: Sun, 23 March 2025, 08:40:15 »

your perspective


My perspective is that the United States has fallen under the heel of people who do not wish to, as they swore an oath to do under the Constitution, Promote the General Welfare

and the reason that happened is that voters in today's America failed to understand what this country was created to do, for its people, and elected representatives who clearly intended to assassinate the "American Experiment".

My perspective is that our highest priority must be to re-educate the people of our country in its foundational ideals.
 
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #421 on: Sun, 23 March 2025, 08:56:34 »

the heel of people who do not wish to, as they swore an oath to do under the Constitution, Promote the General Welfare

and the reason that happened is that voters in today's America failed to understand what this country was created to do, for its people,

My perspective is that our highest priority must be to re-educate the people of our country in its foundational ideals.
 

You can swear to never eat cake again,  doesn't make it real. Politicians swear to such and such, and yet they obey capitalism, which fundamentally screws the sheep.

What this country was created to do was an ideal that not even all the founding fathers agreed to. Much like what would Jesus do, except no one does it, and you know, Priests do, what priests do.

Educate people, this sounds like a good idea, except look at the Chinese, they are the most edumakated fkrs on the planet,  they've already wildly surpassed the world on industrial output. The entirety of Consumerism is on tract to increase emissions. Peak oil was a lie the entire time.   

Education, is an Accelerant. It largely teaches people how to do something, without imparting the WISDOM of whether or not they should.


Is there any other conclusion to pouring Gas on a Fire?


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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #423 on: Mon, 24 March 2025, 17:03:27 »
The attack is indeed 3-pointed:
Classism - attacking the poor and middle class
Racism - attacking anyone who is not a white American citizen
Intellectualism - attacking any free thinkers, higher education, and access to information

They want you poor, scared, and stupid.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #424 on: Mon, 24 March 2025, 17:28:59 »
and you're white
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One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law’s protection most! — and listens to their testimony."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #425 on: Thu, 27 March 2025, 20:30:15 »
This whole thing about Greenland.

It's remarkably stupid.  Even if say, they hand it over, THEN WHAT,  what workforce will we send over to "extract" alleged minerals.

You're talking about building up a 20 yrs worth of infrastructure.

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« Reply #426 on: Thu, 27 March 2025, 20:49:01 »
Google Maps has a feature where you can report wrong information and suggest corrections, and yesterday I noticed Google disabled this feature when you try to report an error for Gulf Of Mexico having the wrong name. I wonder how many reports they got before they had to do that.

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« Reply #427 on: Fri, 28 March 2025, 05:17:16 »
It's remarkably stupid.  Even if say, they hand it over, THEN WHAT,  what workforce will we send over to "extract" alleged minerals.
We have the workforce being assembled at Guantanamo.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #428 on: Fri, 28 March 2025, 08:49:53 »
It's remarkably stupid.  Even if say, they hand it over, THEN WHAT,  what workforce will we send over to "extract" alleged minerals.
We have the workforce being assembled at Guantanamo.

It's not remotely enough, we would need the entirety of Mexico.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #429 on: Fri, 28 March 2025, 11:00:30 »
Government recommends Vitamin A for measles.

People actually fed their kids so much V-A that they've got liver damage, Texas hospitals report.


Welp,  and you expect humanity to solve Climate-Change. Hahahahahaahhaaaaaa /cry,  we're all gon' die horribly.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #430 on: Sun, 30 March 2025, 20:40:36 »
Europe paying for its own defense is not some meme.

It's not an unreasonable demand if we agree our main industry is WAR.  Expecting they'd pay something like 5% of GDP if they want US to remain in NATO. Recessions ahead.



The "main" issue really is, America honestly can't just float the bill on this anymore, it's very expensive.

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« Reply #431 on: Sun, 30 March 2025, 20:51:16 »
One of the stupidest beliefs MAGAs hold is that liberals do not own firearms. We are still American. Much more than those bootlicking brainwashed racists will ever be.
Why? Because we value our freedom, the constitution, uphold the law, and refuse to be subjugated.

I don't want to fight, but I will if I have to. I'll fight alongside Canada as well, proudly.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #432 on: Sun, 30 March 2025, 21:02:05 »
Canada kicked our asses the last time, people forget that. They lit the damn white house on fire.

Now, I don't think they can defeat us at all TODAY,  the problem is again, they're exactly like RUSSIA. Canada has nuclear weapons (undisclosed).

We can't outright kill them all without mutually assuring our own destruction.


The spat right now is,  The Military Industrial Complex is bankrupting America,  America says, OK everyone put a $Dollar in the box, if you want to play, no more free freedom guns.

Tp4 thinks this is perfectly REASONABLE..  Europe and every where else (part of the west), pretty much unequivocally vote /design their society for more social welfare.   They're not paying their way, we've been floating them. But our imperialist economy has limits.


Largely, what Bankrupted Russia, protracted military affairs, is going to happen to us, if Europe doesn't pay.

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« Reply #433 on: Mon, 31 March 2025, 18:40:14 »
Dog's anus Drumpf has decided to cut down the magnolia tree (left) planted by Andrew Jackson (certainly no saint himself).

edit - I have also heard that he intends to pave over the Rose Garden ....
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« Reply #434 on: Mon, 31 March 2025, 19:30:05 »
Dog's anus Drumpf has decided to cut down the magnolia tree (left) planted by Andrew Jackson (certainly no saint himself).

edit - I have also heard that he intends to pave over the Rose Garden ....


Just Dump destroying more history and hard work, no surprise at all. But hey, maybe a better shot view through those windows!

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« Reply #435 on: Wed, 02 April 2025, 08:07:29 »
"In place of those structures, today’s MAGA leaders intend to create their own new institutions, shaped by their own people, whose ideological purity trumps their abilities. As Vice President J.D. Vance explained in a 2021 interview, he and his ilk believe that American “conservatives…have lost every major powerful institution in the country, except for maybe churches and religious institutions, which of course are weaker now than they’ve ever been.

We’ve lost big business. We’ve lost finance. We’ve lost the culture. We’ve lost the academy. And if we’re going to actually really effect real change in the country, it will require us completely replacing the existing ruling class with another ruling class …. I don’t think there’s sort of a compromise that we’re going to come with the people who currently actually control the country. Unless we overthrow them in some way, we’re going to keep losing.” “We really need to be really ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power,” he said.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #436 on: Wed, 02 April 2025, 11:01:00 »
"... create their own new institutions, shaped by their own people, whose ideological purity trumps their abilities."
Hmm.. That reminds me of China under Mao Tse Tung.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #437 on: Thu, 03 April 2025, 10:38:56 »
The tiff w/Mexico.

The tariffs, trade war, rape gangs, cartels, illegal immigrants.

That's the dressing, but not the play.


The play is, the United States will more-directly enslave Mexico.   For a long time, we wanted to enslave the whole world.  We failed, it got too expensive, (Vietnam 1ra .q 1sra3l).

The back up slaves were always mexico+(south america). They're already largely bound, but very soon probably, US will play a much more direct role in their government.

The current government of Mexico IS the Cartel, these guys are inherently weak because they rule entirely through fear. It is a strong enough motivator for low level manual labor, but nothing outside of that. Any smart guy, has much better opportunities elsewhere, safer, away from the violence. And so the country will stagnate near indefinitely in that state, the ONLY thing they can produce efficiently is menial labor. They can't tech-up effectively (fast enough) running that system, and so their world standing, where Technology, is the currency, is locked.

The concept of potentially On-Shoring, the US more than anything else, needs this slave labor force, and so we've willingly kept the Cartels in charge. The same reason we sponsored Sadd4m Hussy, and Netn'yahoot.

The news cycle, is designed such that at a moment's notice, it gives us the political excuse to exact Direct Violence on the Cartel, which by design is the direct manipulation of Mexico. To which they have no defense, we sold them (under the table) all the weapons they currently have, and they have no viable navy to negotiate otherwise.

How difficult would it be to manipulate say, the Swiss government, they're high tech, banking haven, nuclear weapons, advanced products other countries depend upon.  The US can't do **** to them. If we pressed, they'd nuke us.

Now, Mexico, different story. Fen7any1, Mangos, Avocados are nice, but it gets you very little bargaining power, no one is DEPENDENT on low lvl commodities. 

Hang in there Mexico. Everything will probably get way worse.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #438 on: Thu, 03 April 2025, 11:35:51 »
His delusion and ignorance know no bounds, and, abetted by his cruelty, he is determined to bring our country to its knees in front of his eminence.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/04/03/president-trumps-mindless-tariffs-will-cause-economic-havoc

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"If you failed to spot America being “looted, pillaged, raped and plundered by nations near and far” or it being cruelly denied a “turn to prosper”, then congratulations: you have a firmer grip on reality than the president of the United States. It’s hard to know which is more unsettling: that the leader of the free world could spout complete drivel about its most successful and admired economy. Or the fact that on April 2nd, spurred on by his delusions, Donald Trump announced the biggest break in America’s trade policy in over a century — and committed the most profound, harmful and unnecessary economic error in the modern era.

The “most profound, harmful and unnecessary economic error” indeed. And it’s not clear why anyone possessing even a rudimentary understanding of America’s place in the world economy would sign on to a program that virtually assures its utter and complete annihilation. One plausible explanation for such weird credulity is that many in the financial press expect Trump’s fixations to be temporary and that somehow, some way, everything will return to normal before too long. That once Trump perceives the stock market crashing —  as investors flee to whatever safe havens they can scrounge -- cooler heads will at last prevail upon him to move on to another distraction. This ignores the fact that there are no longer any members of his economic “team” willing to tell Trump that his ideas are catastrophic. And it ignores the fact that they were specifically selected for just that reason.
 
The other, darker (but seemingly more likely) explanation, is that they themselves are so petrified that they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge what is happening right before their eyes, or worse, that they will, by their fealty to Trump, somehow  be insulated from its consequences.

The authors of the Economist’s editorial duly reiterate what should be self-evident to anyone with a functioning brain, or at least one capable of recalling and processing even the tiniest fragment of our country’s history:

"Almost everything Mr Trump said this week — on history, economics and the technicalities of trade — was utterly deluded. His reading of history is upside down. He has long glorified the high-tariff, low-income-tax era of the late-19th century. In fact, the best scholarship shows that tariffs impeded the economy back then. He has now added the bizarre claim that lifting tariffs caused the Depression of the 1930s and that the Smoot-Hawley tariffs were too late to rescue the situation. The reality is that tariffs made the Depression much worse, just as they will harm all economies today. It was the painstaking rounds of trade talks in the subsequent 80 years that lowered tariffs and helped increase prosperity."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #439 on: Thu, 03 April 2025, 12:54:45 »
The question really is, if our country's unemployment is roughly 4-10%.

That population applied to say a mid tech product like cars, it wouldn't really offset the required inputs from else where. since 40-60% of a car is not made in the US.

4-10% of the plebs, can not in their life make up for 40-60% of " A Car."

So, that's where Mexico comes in.


But this is a cokomami - no-plan of a plan, because how fast can you really subdue Mexico, before the next election cycle?

Theoretically, they also have nv (lear weapons. It's likely that they already have an underground dir7y |>0m|> type weapon built somewhere near american metro.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #440 on: Thu, 03 April 2025, 22:08:27 »
Just did a big shopping trip focusing on imported goods that'll keep. Lot's of coffee, olive oil, Bordeaux, and toilet roll. Also the natural order those items would be used in.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #441 on: Fri, 04 April 2025, 14:25:35 »
Just did a big shopping trip focusing on imported goods that'll keep. Lot's of coffee, olive oil, Bordeaux, and toilet roll. Also the natural order those items would be used in.

US toilet paper is made in the US. Don't forget to freeze the coffee to extend the shelf life.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #442 on: Fri, 04 April 2025, 19:20:59 »
I will say, it has been fun watching Elon slowly realize how much the entire World hates him. Not even just people in the US, everyone outside of his sycophantic bubble is calling him out. Even Dump in my diaper is talking about cutting ties with him, sure for selfish reasons, but nonetheless.

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« Reply #443 on: Fri, 04 April 2025, 21:38:38 »
I will say, it has been fun watching Elon slowly realize how much the entire World hates him.
While he is gettinh recognised as an a-hole by the general populace now, many in the tech world have known about and despised him for many years by now.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #444 on: Sat, 05 April 2025, 08:18:49 »
“Mr. Trump is saying there will be no tariff exemptions. But watch that promise vanish as politicians, including Mr. Trump, see exemptions as a way to leverage campaign contributions from business. Liberation Day is Buy Another Yacht Day for the swamp.”

- Wall Street Journal’s editorial board wrote 2025-04-04
 
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #445 on: Sat, 05 April 2025, 08:32:59 »
“Mr. Trump is saying there will be no tariff exemptions. But watch that promise vanish as politicians, including Mr. Trump, see exemptions as a way to leverage campaign contributions from business. Liberation Day is Buy Another Yacht Day for the swamp.”

- Wall Street Journal’s editorial board wrote 2025-04-04
 


In principle, yes, but the Democrats is just another swamp. Capitalism is fundamentally about rushing to market with the maximally unsafe product, and externalizing the cost of production and waste disposal.

The whole world's a swamp.

The media likes to point fingers, this guy this guy,  it's all of them.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #446 on: Sun, 06 April 2025, 04:42:18 »

Watched a few of this guy's videos, I really enjoy the clarity of his analyses.
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« Reply #447 on: Sun, 06 April 2025, 09:05:50 »
That makes me think of a quote from Kim Jung Il years ago regarding his country's need for a nuke:

"We are a shrimp swimming with whales."

"If one really wishes to know how justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #448 on: Sun, 06 April 2025, 10:37:52 »
Watched a few of this guy's videos, I really enjoy the clarity of his analyses.

This guy makes many critical mistakes in analyzing the nu(lr situation.

For example, he says, Drumt is telling 1ran to not pursue nu(kz while telling the world not to pressure rv55ia because they have nu(kz, and that is a "mixed" message.

Drumt isn't doing that for any other reason, than, ANY nation pursuing nu(kz is LESS safe for the USA, it has nothing to do with mixed messaging.

We don't want proliferation period
, but proliferation must happen from a human rights perspective. If you don't own a gun, and your neighbor does, it's OK when everyone's got food, but when someone runs out of food, your neighbors will come and kill you and take your food.

Therefore, it's blatantly in the best interest of every country to pursue Nv(lr weapons.

The problem is, the WORLD is already carved out. The borders are set. Those borders are NOT the ones on the map, they are the SPHERES of INFLUENCE.

There is CHINA, RUSSIA, USA, INDIA, EUROPE (France+Germany+UK), that's really it. All other countries don't need their names, as they are largely irrelevant geopolitically. All other countries are price takers, they have the right to sit in their respective houses as long as they PAY RENT to their closest SPHERES OF INFLUENCE.


That is how the world is organized. Hazzah, sounds great if you live in one of the main Spheres.

But wait,   HUMANS are only Momentarily ON TOP.  A few hurricanes/droughts/wildfires/pollution/pandemic away from Total extinction.


THAT'S is the trap.  The talk around nu(lrr weaps, proliferation, BORDERS,   this is all Narrow boundary thinking.  What's mine and yours is only discussed among HUMANS with OTHER HUMANS,

We have not awoken as a truly Enlightened society to WIDE BOUNDARY WISDOM,  that is, we OWE everything we have to the ORGANISM that is PLANET EARTH.


So we continue to bicker in our Giant BURNING HOUSES, who gets the bedroom, who gets new furniture, who gets to watch TV, who gets to play 480fps @ 1000watt an hour w/ 4000watt an hour air conditioners.


Don't be sheep trapped in House-Politics.  That world and that thinking is not the real world. It is a narrow model of the real world, that fail to account for 99% of the real world.  Winning today's games is about as worthwhile as taking a wee.


Ending Animal Agriculture is the ONLY near term goal relevant to Mankind. If we fail to do this, there is NO FUTURE for our species whatsoever. As it is the MAIN DRIVER of climate change.




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« Reply #449 on: Sun, 06 April 2025, 13:12:08 »
We can see from the Vietnam situation that Drumpf is proving himself yet again, but to a colossal degree, to be little more than a simple minded crime boss "shaking down" a weaker nation under the threat of his tariff scheme. His intent was not to create a protracted trade war after all, but merely to set the stage for individual (and different) reciprocal trade agreements with each of our trading partners. Despicable, unjust, and disingenuous.
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One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law’s protection most! — and listens to their testimony."
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