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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 19 December 2022, 09:48:28 »
This article is a bit long but extremely well focused and worth the read.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/12/16/2142212/-What-the-Final-Stage-of-Reaganism-Looks-Like

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 19 December 2022, 22:36:30 »
ok , yes republicans did do all of those things, buhhhh are democrats categorically better.  they are no less wealthy, no less political doners, no less major land owners, capitalists, medical bill predators, etc.

bill gates, a democrat doner, silicon valley,  knee deep in the weapons industry with his modular rea(tors,  understand this, 70% of the budget of our department of Energy is spent on Nv(lear, which produces a tiny fraction of all our electricity,  the bulk of it is weapons and military expense.

there probably isn't a political solution. it's the nature of man to have its mind and government rot with age.

nature will hit the tipping point, and the great calamity is likely to reset humanity. again, we're already IN the Anthropocene extinction event, it's happening RIGHT NOW, the house is on fire, we're all in it.

yes, vote democrat, but be realistic, so that you won't be disappointed when they're every bit as fascist, it's just how humans behave when they're in power.


the only way this works, is if we revolt, everyone strikes, have our own cultural revolution, eat the rich, all of them. we do have the power, exercise it. 

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 20 December 2022, 03:21:34 »
I used to think it was so absurd that Hitler was able to stage a full-on coup d'etat and only go to jail for a year when it failed.

Apparently though, nowadays you don't get even that.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 26 December 2022, 09:17:50 »
Actual Christmas message :

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 26 December 2022, 16:03:59 »
Actual Christmas message :
Uhh wasn't he banned from Twitter? xD

(and then unbanned but he said he'd never post there anymore?)
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 26 December 2022, 16:12:18 »

wasn't he banned from Twitter?


He created a pitiful lame ersatz Twitter wannabe called "Truth Social" which has been his new soap box.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 02 January 2023, 10:57:51 »
Surely the donation money is rapidly drying up as all but the poorest and most stupid rats have already left the ship.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-invited-press-media-availability-135849904.html
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 02 January 2023, 13:04:20 »

wasn't he banned from Twitter?


He created a pitiful lame ersatz Twitter wannabe called "Truth Social" which has been his new soap box.
Oh yes, now I just noticed how it says "retruth" instead of "retweet". That's pretty funny actually xD .
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 06 April 2023, 17:57:19 »
Maybe not.
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In 1797, John Adams agreed: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 07:10:05 »
Dare we hope for justice?

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In 1797, John Adams agreed: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 15:45:58 »
I just read the indictment, it is only 49 pages long.
Whew! They really do operate like a classic organized crime family.
Very little doubt that important military secrets were for sale to the highest bidders.
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Thomas Jefferson — in an actual quote — wrote in 1802 that our First Amendment built “a wall of separation between church and state.”
In 1797, John Adams agreed: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 17:49:25 »
I just read the indictment, it is only 49 pages long.
Whew! They really do operate like a classic organized crime family.
Very little doubt that important military secrets were for sale to the highest bidders.



in reality most military secrets are worthless because we're at the point where no real wars can be fought without planetary annihilation, so realistically, it's all posturing.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 19:38:25 »
You might want to read the indictment.

It is not about actual information on war-fighting, it is about the monetary value that a variety of players might pay for information on a variety of other players.

The Saudis did not pay Jared Kushner $2Billion with a "B" because they intend to attack the US.
 
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In 1797, John Adams agreed: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 22:28:22 »
It's berserk to me that he's running again in this election. Cannot wrap my mind around it.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 09 June 2023, 22:29:15 »
It's berserk to me that he's running again in this election. Cannot wrap my mind around it.

why? he wants more than anything to be president again, and forever. he wouldn't want it any other way.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 10 June 2023, 01:39:06 »
in reality most military secrets are worthless because we're at the point where no real wars can be fought without planetary annihilation, so realistically, it's all posturing. [/size][/color]
Not everything is about "winning" a war..

Names of spies (ours, theirs, allies...), secret technology and alliances, technological capabilities, defense capabilities, submarine locations, invasion plans of friends and enemies (we have multiple for everyone), military deployments, compromising info on allies and enemy leaders and possible future leaders....

Knowledge is power.
The fallout from this is going to change world politics for decades, our allies already lost a ton of faith in us and we aren't even sure what all has been compromised.




For those who've never had a security clearance,
I know it sounds cool to have secret info or a security clearance but the truth is you really don't, it has no value except to bad actors and now you have to be mindful of anything you say/do/go and of course the people you meet. That info can get you or others (including family) kidnapped, tortured or killed. If you think about it, you really don't want this info especially at higher levels if you can avoid it. Besides, what good is knowing the greatest secret if you can't tell anyone and could get you tortured and killed?

So ask yourself, why would someone who openly said he didn't trust our intel community and rarely sat in for intel briefings have so much of it?
Two things I can think of is Kushner's $2B deal with the Saudis (an enemy of Iran), as well as the sudden takeover of PGA Tours US and EU by Saudi owned LIV Golf right after they announced they were banning Trump courses from the tour.



By the way, I HIGHLY recommend watching this while keeping in mind what is currently going on. It should scare the hell out of you.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 10 June 2023, 06:07:08 »
in reality most military secrets are worthless because we're at the point where no real wars can be fought without planetary annihilation, so realistically, it's all posturing. [/size][/color]
Not everything is about "winning" a war..

Names of spies (ours, theirs, allies...), secret technology and alliances, technological capabilities, defense capabilities, submarine locations, invasion plans of friends and enemies (we have multiple for everyone), military deployments, compromising info on allies and enemy leaders and possible future leaders....

Knowledge is power.
The fallout from this is going to change world politics for decades, our allies already lost a ton of faith in us and we aren't even sure what all has been compromised.


What is at the core of SECRETS.

Secrets are only necessary when any person or group is Overprovisioned (overpaid) or Overpowered (almost all political office).

This is a fundamentally stupid arrangement of leadership.  The only reason ANYONE has anything to lose, is because they've taken or have been paid MORE than they need and/or are capable of efficiently managing (overpower).


Wars are fought over which Oligarch gets the Excess, all the while, they tell the Plebs to go die for them. But they say it's for Pride and Nationhood.

All oligarchs of All Nations  ARE BAD, 

Plebs need more education. Don't fight the Oligarch's wars for them.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 10 June 2023, 20:36:23 »

I HIGHLY recommend watching this


I watched it, fearful of "oh no, what now?" but I knew almost all of it already. But then, I have been reading extensively on this for years now.

2 books that delved deep into this material are House of Trump, House of Putin by Unger and How Democracies Die by Levitsky.
The Constitution is a secular document that created a secular government.
Thomas Jefferson — in an actual quote — wrote in 1802 that our First Amendment built “a wall of separation between church and state.”
In 1797, John Adams agreed: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”