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Offline tp4tissue

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Should you really go to the beach?
« on: Wed, 29 May 2024, 16:43:50 »
Been checking out some beach homes in Cal for rich peeps. Walking along the shoreline, they're not always that far from some industrial center.

The $10-20m houses are always near a population center, and the services and goods sector which powers this density can't be logistically expensive, so they're out of sight, but you can tell their pollution washes up ashore.

There's plenty of odd color tides following the coast line along the road, and in the sand, some industrial looking  (smells like) petroleum goop here/ there. Even on the cleaner shores.


Tp4 really wouldn't trust this water.  And yet he sees people just go in, carefree. California is a major agricultural power house. Farm inputs get into this water for sure, pesticides, animal waste, carcinogenic fertilizers etc.

People guys just YOLO this water?



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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 May 2024, 16:53:23 »
you spend all your time worrying, and no time living

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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 May 2024, 16:59:27 »
We will all die one day. We can only control what we can control. If it's not the food we eat, it's the air we breathe, where we ship our goods from, etc.

Just make do with what we got for the time we have it.
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 May 2024, 21:08:51 »
I wouldn't also trust the san pedro beach water, since a lot of extremely toxic bacteria from the la river gets funneled down there. But I'm swimming in it, not drinking it.

As both noisy and tomahawk have said, you shouldn't worry about things like this, one swim on a beach is not gonna harm you long term. It's the same thing with you not buying japanese products cause of radiation, I don't think that's gonna turn you into one of those mutants from futurama or do long-term damage, I doubt there is that much more radiation than in other countries' products. And more dangerous things are everywhere now like microplastics, it's a shame that it's gotten to that point but worrying isn't gonna reverse it.

Just live your life, as long as there aren't big red flags you should be fine (like I get what you are saying about consuming meat, I haven't done it in ages too)
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 30 May 2024, 05:23:33 »
Been checking out some beach homes in Cal for rich peeps. Walking along the shoreline, they're not always that far from some industrial center.

People guys just YOLO this water?
No, they close the beach when it gets bad and it's not like you're drinking it.
People would be surprised how much freshwater isn't safe to drink these days.

And while you can rag on them for dirty beaches and closures at least they are trying to keep people safe, do you honestly think this is only a California problem? You know about it because they're trying to do something about it, other states/countries are just ignoring it completely, Florida and India in particular.
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 30 May 2024, 07:28:11 »

Florida


When "The Big One" hits Miami, there will be a cesspool in its wake like Florida has never seen.
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 23 June 2024, 03:06:52 »
Personally, I loathe going to the beach. I get bored out of my mind almost immediately, and it's far too hot for me. We (had to) spend some time at a beach resort in Egypt at the end of our holiday (it was an organised trip) and we collectively hated it (as we were all people who like to actually travel and see things). That beach resort was basically The Bad Place.
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 23 June 2024, 09:27:12 »
A beach in warm weather is an exceptionally relaxing vacation experience for me.

There are times for everything, and it is a proven scientific principle that "down" time is necessary for creativity.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mental-downtime/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/play-your-way-sane/202201/the-scientific-case-downtime

We have discussed this previously in terms of sleep and meditation, and I have no desire to "preach" to you. But I treasure my down time, and, for me, a good night's sleep and a morning meditation session help me feel mentally clear and flexible. And also help me keep my emotions in check.

Also, the majority of my beach experiences have been on the southeastern Atlantic coast of the US during the summer months, so that is a good beach environment. I recommend the Outer Banks of North Carolina.
 
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 23 June 2024, 16:10:16 »
A beach in warm weather is an exceptionally relaxing vacation experience for me.

There are times for everything, and it is a proven scientific principle that "down" time is necessary for creativity.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mental-downtime/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/play-your-way-sane/202201/the-scientific-case-downtime

We have discussed this previously in terms of sleep and meditation, and I have no desire to "preach" to you. But I treasure my down time, and, for me, a good night's sleep and a morning meditation session help me feel mentally clear and flexible. And also help me keep my emotions in check.

Also, the majority of my beach experiences have been on the southeastern Atlantic coast of the US during the summer months, so that is a good beach environment. I recommend the Outer Banks of North Carolina.
Oh I'm not arguing with you at all, I completely recognise that other people like activities like that, and that's fine. I've got pretty massive ADD and I'm pretty sure it's precisely because of that. For the same reason I don't like sleeping either, I need the time to do, well, everything.

I do wind down every once in a while, on a spa day with some friends. That's okay though, and a bit more, let's say, interactive.
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 23 June 2024, 16:14:57 »
I generally hate going outside and being around happy strangers, the kinda person who regularly wears all black.
But around my birthday I had a couple lovely picnics on the beach that turned out great!
Granted, the picnic on the private empty beach was much nicer than the public crowded one, but I wound up relaxing and having a pleasant time at both.

7/10 - would picnic on a private beach a couple times a year

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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 24 June 2024, 09:14:50 »

I need the time to do, well, everything.


A sight-seeing vacation and a relaxing vacation are 2 very different things.

If I am in absorbing/learning mode then I want to get on with it without distractions, but if I am in relaxing/recharging mode then I want to do that - also without distractions.

Key word? Distractions.

I also love the quote from multiple brilliant people: "Multi-tasking is worse than a lie."
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Re: Should you really go to the beach?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 25 June 2024, 03:08:46 »
I like the beach, I mean a clean blue and only a few people beach