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Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 10:39:29 »
Tp4 is impacted dramatically by this as a poor person.

Buhhhhh.... it's going to hurt capitalism even more in their rapidly dying downtown buildups.

Thoughts ?!!?

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 12:30:44 »
People need to vote with their wallet. Every time you turn a blind eye and vote with your dollars telling companies that these bull**** models are ok, they get emboldened. The value of a good doesn't change because of the time of day. A burger isn't worth more because it's supper time. Stop giving your money to these greedy ****s who do nothing but use math and science to remove your money from you in the most effective way possible.

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 12:49:42 »
Quote from: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 06 January 2025, 12:30:44
Learn skills. Buy things you can keep. Learn to fix what you have and be ok with not having everything you dream about.

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Tomahawklabs has clearly been radicalized.
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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 14:26:27 »
Seems like an excellent idea to me. I hate traffic jams, and if this cuts down on useless rubber-necking I am for it.

Fortunately I have not driven a car in NYC in decades and probably will not do so ever again in my lifetime.
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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:53:48 »
It is going to prevent people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city from commuting to work. Parking fees are already absolutely absurd.
Yet another way to gouge to poor. This country is straight up sick.

When there is no one left to work in their factories and pour their coffee, only then will they notice.
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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:58:18 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:53:48

people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city


Between subway fares and parking, it is probably more expensive to drive and park.
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"Starting in 2011, the deficits again started to shrink. During Obama’s term  the deficit was reduced by $900 Billion  before finally in 2015 the GOP managed to wrangle a “reconciliation” bill out of Obama where he again cut corporate taxes, as well as made permanent some of George W. Bush’s original tax cuts. This is the year everything reversed. Before this, under Clinton, Bush and Obama the deficit in almost every year was gradually decreasing. The balance we had of taxes and the economy was bringing the deficit down, the money coming in was slowly catching up with the money going out until 2015. Trump’s subsequent tax cut has continued the new trend even after the rest of Bush’s cuts have since expired. Obama had an average GDP of 2.3%, with 11.6 million jobs created and unemployment peaking at 10% in 2009, then falling to 4.3% in 2016. If we had continued on that downward deficit track, we would have again reached balance and another surplus in 2017-2018.
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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 07 January 2025, 12:49:53 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:53:48
It is going to prevent people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city from commuting to work. Parking fees are already absolutely absurd.
Yet another way to gouge to poor. This country is straight up sick.

When there is no one left to work in their factories and pour their coffee, only then will they notice.

most people going in to lower manhattan use public transit lol

also, poor people are disproportionately without cars...
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