o-rings for non-bottoming... typist?

[jamdox]

Yo, GH!

Just got a mech keyboard with browns.  I like it, although I'd hoped it'd be quieter.

I don't bottom... often    , so I haven't been worried about o-rings   

 )

However, the board is noisier than I expected given the browns, and it's due to key return, the key thwacking back into place once released.

Would o-rings help with this?  Most of the videos don't really test this.

[rant about crappy review videos redacted]

Grazi 

[tp4tissue]

technically , Orings WOULD help.. because if it reduces travel, then the key return will be of less force than if it had descended further prior to snapping back.


However, the difference would not be as noticeable, because once the bottoming sound is gone, the topping-out sound is the only one you'll hear.. Thus while it is "technically" more quiet, your auditory system will still perceive it of about the same loudness relative to your environment...

Because in state of quiet disposition, the motor protein on the hair receptor inside your cochlea will relax, thus heighten your audio sensitivity,

You lose all the gains you've made.


apparently the hairs in your ear is capable of detecting the movement by the width of a single hydrogen atom.

Awesome, yet annoying.

[TotalChaos]

Yo, GH!

Just got a mech keyboard with browns.  I like it, although I'd hoped it'd be quieter.

I don't bottom... often    , so I haven't been worried about o-rings   

 )

However, the board is noisier than I expected given the browns, and it's due to key return, the key thwacking back into place once released.

Would o-rings help with this? 

Nope.

And if u get O-rings get the 40A ones.  Don't bother with 50A or higher..

[jamdox]

technically , Orings WOULD help.. because if it reduces travel, then the key return will be of less force than if it had descended further prior to snapping back.


However, the difference would not be as noticeable, because once the bottoming sound is gone, the topping-out sound is the only one you'll hear.. Thus while it is "technically" more quiet, your auditory system will still perceive it of about the same loudness relative to your environment...

Because in state of quiet disposition, the motor protein on the hair receptor inside your cochlea will relax, thus heighten your audio sensitivity,

You lose all the gains you've made.


apparently the hairs in your ear is capable of detecting the movement by the width of a single hydrogen atom.

Awesome, yet annoying.

Wow.  Mind: blown.

Nope.

Thanks, folks! 

[Kruen]

Is there anything that can be done up reduce topping noise?

[TotalChaos]

Is there anything that can be done up reduce topping noise?

Wait 30 years for Cherry to make a quieter version.

The keyboard industry moves tremendously slowly.

[hipsterdontlie]

I know that feel bro. It's irritating because I never bottom out but then my roommates wake up when I try to take notes because of the up noise... unfortunately, O-Rings do not solve this problem. I just try to be mindful about taking my finger off the keys, so that they don't leave the key until it's all the way up.

I guess one way to reduce the noise (though not by much) would be to use those Korean 55g springs, but that takes LOTS of effort. So I'm not down for that.

[xyril]

Is there anything that can be done up reduce topping noise?

Wait 30 years for Cherry to make a quieter version.

The keyboard industry moves tremendously slowly.

[BlindRAGE606]

Because in state of quiet disposition, the motor protein on the hair receptor inside your cochlea will relax, thus heighten your audio sensitivity,

You lose all the gains you've made.


apparently the hairs in your ear is capable of detecting the movement by the width of a single hydrogen atom.

What? So wrong, and so many blanket statements.

[TotalChaos]

@xyril

hehehe  )


@jamdox

Yo dude I figured out the prob!  u r typing on the wrong spring.  You need to get Cherry Reds.  The spring is weaker so it won't bang the key up so hard and noisily.

  That is why my keyboard is so quiet.  My super soft O-rings and my supersoft cherry red springs keep things reasonably quiet.  There is some noise but is no so much banging and clacking.

Good luck and peace out! 

[jamdox]

But... I need to feel the bump 

Srsly, though, don't reds make you bottom out all the time?

[iri]

Srsly, though, don't reds make you bottom out all the time?

no.

[TotalChaos]

But... I need to feel the bump 

Srsly, though, don't reds make you bottom out all the time?

If you need to feel the bump then ..... you want to bottom out.

Bottoming out is a bump.

Just make urself some soft rubber O-rings to go in there to cushion the bump and you are good to go bro. 

And give it a month to train your hands to not jam huge amounts of force into each keypress like you have been trained to do your whole life.  (Tho if your O-rings r soft enough its not a big deal.)

[Polymer]

Browns shouldn't be that loud on the way up but getting heavier keycaps like PBT or thick PBT will help as well IMO.  Thinner keycaps I think are a bit louder IMO.

O-rings will help reduce travel some and IMO,  somehow they're making the noise on the way up a bit less as well..it could be like a dampener on the key...PBT keycaps make less noise as well IMO.

[davkol]

But... I need to feel the bump 

Srsly, though, don't reds make you bottom out all the time?

If you need to feel the bump then ..... you want to bottom out.

Bottoming out is a bump.

WAT? O_o

WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, and BOTTOMING OUT LINEAR SWITCHES IS BUMP

[jamdox]

Browns shouldn't be that loud on the way up but getting heavier keycaps like PBT or thick PBT will help as well IMO.  Thinner keycaps I think are a bit louder IMO.

O-rings will help reduce travel some and IMO,  somehow they're making the noise on the way up a bit less as well..it could be like a dampener on the key...PBT keycaps make less noise as well IMO.

Maybe I'll try them then.

[xyril]

the tradional o-rings (from hardware) store is reasonable cheaper than the pre-set keyboard one. But its hard to find the right diameter . But it does works like a charm with my mxbrown .... thou, the noise lvl reduce by 25% 

thats a plus. Not too shabby for DIY :>

[iri]

But its hard to find the right diameter

it's 5mm.

[xDezor]

technically , Orings WOULD help.. because if it reduces travel, then the key return will be of less force than if it had descended further prior to snapping back.


However, the difference would not be as noticeable, because once the bottoming sound is gone, the topping-out sound is the only one you'll hear.. Thus while it is "technically" more quiet, your auditory system will still perceive it of about the same loudness relative to your environment...

Because in state of quiet disposition, the motor protein on the hair receptor inside your cochlea will relax, thus heighten your audio sensitivity,

You lose all the gains you've made.


apparently the hairs in your ear is capable of detecting the movement by the width of a single hydrogen atom.

Awesome, yet annoying.

That. Is. Amazing.

You win the internet

[JPG]

Yo, GH!

Just got a mech keyboard with browns.  I like it, although I'd hoped it'd be quieter.

I don't bottom... often    , so I haven't been worried about o-rings   

 )

However, the board is noisier than I expected given the browns, and it's due to key return, the key thwacking back into place once released.

Would o-rings help with this? 

Nope.

And if u get O-rings get the 40A ones.  Don't bother with 50A or higher..

Is that true for the 40A? I will probably need to get some o-ring for the job, but I don't want to change the feel of the keyboard so I planned to get some A70 that are supposed to be less quiet but strong enough to change less the feeling of the keyboard. So I would be glad to get some feedback on personnal experience between the A40-A50 and A70 

[TheProfosist]

40A all the way and i wouldnt go higher than 50A

[longweight]

Go silenced Topre!

[tp4tissue]

Because in state of quiet disposition, the motor protein on the hair receptor inside your cochlea will relax, thus heighten your audio sensitivity,

You lose all the gains you've made.


apparently the hairs in your ear is capable of detecting the movement by the width of a single hydrogen atom.

What? So wrong, and so many blanket statements.

Just quoting the books bro... go read one from time to time.

construction workers in LOUD worksites wear ear plugs to HEAR BETTER... with ear plugs they can communicate with each other, but without them the noise level pushes that motor protein to the limit, and their sensitivity drops, thus they can't hear jacks ****.

[daerid]

I'll second that. I played in a touring rock band for years, and had to wear earplugs to actually hear anything on stage.

[TotalChaos]

Less is more