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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 13 March 2013, 13:22:14 »
I'm definitely interested in getting one of these, keep up the good work!

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 13 March 2013, 13:35:31 »
What do you guys think about this?
Hi simkev.
I liked it very much! Awesome work.

I'm wondering here, could you make it modular?
I mean, no microcontroller or it's components in the PCB?
I'm trying to convince the GH60 guys to do the same into some future next version.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #102 on: Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:57:35 »
I'm really liking all these cool projects happening here. For sure interested.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:22:20 »
I probably missed it but what will the case be like and will this be plate mounted?

WhiteFireDragon designed one to complment his GH60 case design... it's the little one on the right.

Here's the thread for that : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0



I imagine, like the GH60, you can choose to use a plate or not.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 29 March 2013, 19:40:01 »
I also have a GHpad out for quote:
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:24:29 »
Definitely keeping this on my radar. Looks awfully promising!

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:29:56 »
I did this based on standard key spacings, so it should match up with the PCB. I just need USB location and standoff locations if there are any. I suppose it doesn't need standoffs, but then you're forced to use plate-mounted PCB to mount it into the case. Here are some pics of just the bottom case, and one with the bottom piece + plate + brass weight (but without top cover).

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This should be able to be placed side-by-side with the other GH60 case and everything should line up. I'll post a pic of what it looks like with both cases together.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0

Gonna follow closely this! It's exactly what I wanted, a sturdy and heavy num pad.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:20:46 »
Hi guys.
Who is working into the PCB?
I'm asking because I think I can help on it ...
Can I?
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:31:28 »
regack has a completed PCB here. I had a prototype made, but I haven't had a chance to order the SMD components to build it yet.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:32:15 »
regack has a completed PCB here. I had a prototype made, but I haven't had a chance to order the SMD components to build it yet.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 17:08:23 »
regack has a completed PCB here. I had a prototype made, but I haven't had a chance to order the SMD components to build it yet.
Awesome!

And the ALPS version of it?
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 17:24:46 »
regack has a completed PCB here. I had a prototype made, but I haven't had a chance to order the SMD components to build it yet.
Awesome!

And the ALPS version of it?
 :D

Is what you will be working on? ;D

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 17:26:53 »
Will there be a GB for this? I wasn't too interested in the GH60 since I hate layouts smaller than TKL, but I'm really friggin' interested in this.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 11 April 2013, 17:38:20 »
Is what you will be working on? ;D
Yup, if you think that's a good idea ...
Now I do have the required Kicad skills to make it.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:12:13 »
Note:  This isn't the GHpad that komar007 is working on.

So my test board is alive... but it's not the same one that JDCarpe has... I decided to go a different route - everything is through-hole.

"What? through-hole? That's so passť!",  I hear you cry.   Well, you know, I tried some 0805 SMD, and I didn't have fun with it, so I figured I would try to fit a Teensy... but you can't fit a Teensy on a 4x5 keypad... so I made it a daughterboard.

So I got it working with Hasu's firmware yesterday after realizing that I had put all the diodes on backwards  :-[  so please excuse the messy repairs...

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So here's the board, numlock lit, waiting for those Retro DSA caps to show up...  I ordered a case for it from Shapeways, we'll see how it turns out... never had anything 3d printed before, and I'm new to 3D design. 

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You could get a little more space if you took off the button and the usb connector, but there seems to be enough space in the poker case I was testing with anyway, so that's what I based my 3d thingy on.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 04:49:43 »
Holy smokes that's awesome! Nice job Regack.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:58:10 »
The shapeways print arrived today, and I stuck the keypad in there and threw on some random caps I had. 

The material itself is very odd, it's not smooth at all, it's kind of rough and raw... needs some work.  That said, it's also white if you scrape at it with a knife or other tool (which I had to do because the USB was somewhat misaligned). 

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I got impatient and ordered it before finalizing any sort of PCB mounting, so it just kind of floats in there.

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I'll call it a learning experience and use it for a while...

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It certainly seems to be good enough for now :D

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:16:05 »
So awesome Regack!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:17:58 »
Agreed! Can't wait.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:19:35 »
If this ever gets released are you still planning on having an optinal extra row of keys above the existing 5 rows?
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« Reply #120 on: Tue, 30 April 2013, 22:54:41 »
Do want!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #121 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:36:39 »
Nice job regack, a little bit jealous.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 11:20:08 »
I put it all up on github if anyone wants to play with it. 

I would not recommend using the sketchup design as it is, unless you're prepared to do a fair amount of work with it once you get it.   

The standoffs were just kind of guesswork and the USB needs to be extended another 2-3 mm to the left side of the case, and perhaps be lowered a bit.  I'm not sure, I haven't measured it all yet.  Another standoff needs to be added to the front, probably.  The front lower edge could use some more cut-in so it compares better to a standard poker/pure case.   My skill level with 3d stuff is lacking  :-[.   

I should probably tweak it a bit now that I have both the case and PCB in hand, but it will probably take me a while to get to that.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 11:40:14 »
Great work, regack! I'm loving the progress you are making with this.

Also, once you have your case design worked out, I bet you could extend that to a full Poker clone case, and everyone will sing your praises!

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 12:18:14 »
i'd be in for one of these

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 12:58:41 »
If I have the patience to redo the case, it will work great, I think.  I wanted to use it for my weird "59 percent" keyboard (that JDCarpe made a plate design for, thank you). 

Only thing with this daughterboard setup is that it really won't will fit the other case designs, like the ones that The_Beast and WFD have.  If Komar007 is still working on his keypad design with the ATMega32U2 I'm sure that will be the preferred method.

I'm just not up for SMD work for other than just a couple of pieces (and preferably 1206+ :D ) , so I made a version using through-hole everything.  Always good to have alternatives, right?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #126 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 07:37:33 »
I'm just not up for SMD work for other than just a couple of pieces (and preferably 1206+ :D ) , so I made a version using through-hole everything.  Always good to have alternatives, right?
What are you using to solder your SMD parts mate?
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:36:23 »
I'm just not up for SMD work for other than just a couple of pieces (and preferably 1206+ :D ) , so I made a version using through-hole everything.  Always good to have alternatives, right?
What are you using to solder your SMD parts mate?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #128 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:23:20 »
Hakko 888.  But I'm sure the real problem is the confluence of patience, limits of vision, hand steadiness and the cost of a better type of magnifier.
Or you trying to solder it with iron instead of hot air.
IMHO it's really easy to solder basic SMD parts with flux and hot air (I'm not talking about SMD ICs, those are hard).
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #129 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:09:31 »
I know it's been mentioned that there'll be some free pins on the gh60s controller, but how exactly would that get soldered to hook up the 10key (for WFDs GH70 case, that is)?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #130 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 22:39:06 »
I really want this to happen, definitely in if this ever becomes a reality.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #131 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 22:49:09 »
I really want this to happen, definitely in if this ever becomes a reality.
Me also. I really, really want a progammable keypad with 6 rows.
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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 22:59:03 »
That's an impressive result from shapeways.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 21:50:19 »
Sorry if this has been asked before, but will this be usable with other keyboards aswell?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 22:28:29 »
Sorry if this has been asked before, but will this be usable with other keyboards aswell?

this is a 2 part answer...
1. yes it is usable with any other keyboard.
2. If you own more then one custom keyboard device it is best practice to unplug the ones you are not intending to program while updating firmware.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #135 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:08:49 »
Is there a GB planned for this one? if there is I'm def. interested

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« Reply #136 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:37:51 »
Is there a GB planned for this one? if there is I'm def. interested

I agree! Especially if WhiteFireDragon is still planning on making those sexy matching cases for GH60 + GH10. :D
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 18:40:51 »
Can hardly contain the excitement here! Nice work guys!   ;D
I am for sure interested in this if it goes GB.  :cool:
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #138 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 20:44:31 »
what is the PCB size?

if it is smaller than 10x10cm it will be cool, take a look at the prices I've got:

Seedstudio 10x 10cm x 10cm       US$ 24,90 + US$ 9,20 shipping = $34,10 =  $3,41 per board
PCBWing     5x 10cm x 10cm color US$ 28,00 + US$ 5,00 shipping = $33,00 =  $6,60 per board
OSH Park    3x 10cm x 10cm       US$ 85,00                              = $24,00 per board
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 28 June 2013, 09:07:49 »
what is the PCB size?

if it is smaller than 10x10cm it will be cool, take a look at the prices I've got:

Seedstudio 10x 10cm x 10cm       US$ 24,90 + US$ 9,20 shipping = $34,10 =  $3,41 per board
PCBWing     5x 10cm x 10cm color US$ 28,00 + US$ 5,00 shipping = $33,00 =  $6,60 per board
OSH Park    3x 10cm x 10cm       US$ 85,00                              = $24,00 per board
(shipping to brazil - not sure how much it would cost to ship to US but I'm mostly sure it will be cheaper)

It should be about 7.6cm x 9.5cm. :)

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 16 July 2013, 11:29:38 »
I'm totally in for a GB on this, my Adesso 22s are getting on my nerves, who the hell designs 2x key layouts without stabs >.<;
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #141 on: Tue, 16 July 2013, 12:00:23 »
I'm totally in for a GB on this, my Adesso 22s are getting on my nerves, who the hell designs 2x key layouts without stabs >.<;
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 02:16:44 »
I can't wait for this!!!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 02:20:30 »
This is still going to have the same width as the Gh60 and support a split "0" and "+" key right?
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:55:06 »
This is still going to have the same width as the Gh60 and support a split "0" and "+" key right?

Correct. :)

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #145 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:13:39 »
I have no knowledge of any electronics/programming so this question may be very stupid but I'll ask anyway.

Would it be possible to make this programmable using hotkeys? Like the G80-3700 mode 4 :
    Hold down the Numlock key on the G80-3700
    Press the key you wish to program
    Release the Numlock key
    The Numlock LED should now be flashing
    Type the key-combination or sequence you wish to program on the main keyboard
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    The blinking should stop, the key is now programmed with your string or sequence
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:15:37 »
I have no knowledge of any electronics/programming so this question may be very stupid but I'll ask anyway.

Would it be possible to make this programmable using hotkeys? Like the G80-3700 mode 4 :
    Hold down the Numlock key on the G80-3700
    Press the key you wish to program
    Release the Numlock key
    The Numlock LED should now be flashing
    Type the key-combination or sequence you wish to program on the main keyboard
    Press the Numlock key again
    The blinking should stop, the key is now programmed with your string or sequence

Theoretically it could be done, because it has already been done once. The problem is, that require you have your main board plugged into the PS/2 in on the back of it, which means you would have to have an input of some sort on the pad, further increasing the difficulty of designing firmware, and planning the PCB layout.

EDIT: Another thing is, the way they did the 3700, it has a PCB with the switches on it, and a controller PCB that sits below it containing the PS/2 IN as well as OUT, the controller, and other important hardware.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 02:54:07 »
Any further progress on this? I hate to sound impatient and I know these things take time, but this is a seriously awesome project and I want one a lot.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:22:05 »
Any further progress on this? I hate to sound impatient and I know these things take time, but this is a seriously awesome project and I want one a lot.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #149 on: Mon, 26 August 2013, 00:01:33 »
Any further progress on this? I hate to sound impatient and I know these things take time, but this is a seriously awesome project and I want one a lot.