Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[ideus]

It seems similar to the very old punch-card stations.

[Melvang]

I'm with Cpt on this one.  My guess would be Honeywell just due to the sphericals and having all the profiles for a full curve instead of the alphas being the one profile.  That and the narrow "big ass" enter key.

[jdcarpe]

I'm pretty sure it's a Zenith terminal of some sort. I just need to identify the specific model.

Probably a Z-100?

[BlueBär]

Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

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The keyboard looks identical to this one: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/DSC01148.JPG

[ideus]

Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

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The keyboard looks identical to this one: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/DSC01148.JPG

Good catch.

[BlueBär]

Good catch.

Not exactly the same model though

[ideus]

Good catch.

Not exactly the same model though

Help us to see the differences. After a quick inspection it is not clear to me that they are different.

[BlueBär]

Help us to see the differences. After a quick inspection it is not clear to me that they are different.

Everything above the keyboard is different. On JDs photo the screen is directly attached to the computer and keyboard, on mine it is removable and has a beige-grey border, not a black one.

[jdcarpe]

Yes, I think it's quite similar to this one:




In the image I captured, you can make out the faint Zenith logo at the bottom, so I know it's not a Z-120. Looks like member jacobolus found a Z-100 keyboard on ebay, according to his post here, and it has vintage tee Alps switches.

[BlueBär]

...Zenith logo at the bottom, so I know it's not a Z-120...

What you think is the logo is a reflection from the recessed bezel, the logo is actually above, so it's most likely a Z-120. Here's what I mean:

[Larken]

I think z-100 was the general term used to capture both zenith 110 and 120 systems - which was basically the same computer, sold as pre-assembled version of some old pc kit. The difference being that 110 was 'low-profile', meaning no internal monitor. z120 is the version (same internals) with the crt built-in, sold as a all in one solution.

The one in your picture should be a z-120. I'm curious as to how you determined its not a z -120?

[jdcarpe]

I think z-100 was the general term used to capture both zenith 110 and 120 systems - which was basically the same computer, sold as pre-assembled version of some old pc kit. The difference being that 110 was 'low-profile', meaning no internal monitor. z120 is the version (same internals) with the crt built-in, sold as a all in one solution.

The one in your picture should be a z-120. I'm curious as to how you determined its not a z -120?

It most likely is a Z-120, as BlueBär pointed out. What I thought was the Zenith logo at the bottom was just a reflection.

[JunkFace]

I'm looking to buy a 6u spacebar and and stabilizer.  It's got to have the offset stems (not sure if they're all like this).  Anyone know where I can pick one/some up?

[BlueBär]

I'm looking to buy a 6u spacebar and and stabilizer.  It's got to have the offset stems (not sure if they're all like this).  Anyone know where I can pick one/some up?

You can find some in SPs inventory: http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/inventory/spacebar-inventory

[agodinhost]

Why pink puple Capt?
I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...

[CPTBadAss]

Why pink puple Capt?
I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...

I just like pink and purple. No other reason than that.

[agodinhost]

Why pink puple Capt?
I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...

I just like pink and purple. No other reason than that.

And the Hellokitty?

[CPTBadAss]

And the Hellokitty?

My love for Hello Kitty is an extension of a running joke within my family.

[Firebolt1914]

Do the Mechanicalkeyboard.com Ergodox cases come with the plate mounts? I'm not sure if that's what you call them.

[CPTBadAss]

Do the Mechanicalkeyboard.com Ergodox cases come with the plate mounts? I'm not sure if that's what you call them.

Plate mounted switches or the plate? I'm not sure what you're asking.

[divito]

I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Melvang]

I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheapest would probably be the enabler in my signature.  It is a lot more soldering as the PCBs are single switch only.  You would also need a controller and the switches need to be plate mounted.

[minho]

Will the Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit in any custom cases?

[CPTBadAss]

Will the Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit in any custom cases?

Erm...I'm actually not sure about this. AFAIK, I don't think so.

[minho]

On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

[Pacifist]

On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

vortex case+phantom

[minho]

On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

vortex case+phantom

Vortex case has been out of stock on mk for quite a while 

I don't know of any other suppliers for the case, and I'd rather not buy this on Classifieds (probably not best pricing, a little more risky, and low chance of even finding the case).

[CPTBadAss]

On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

vortex case+phantom

Vortex case has been out of stock on mk for quite a while 

I don't know of any other suppliers for the case, and I'd rather not buy this on Classifieds (probably not best pricing, a little more risky, and low chance of even finding the case).

I don't know if you'll find what you want anywhere else besides the classifieds. The Phantom PCB will fit any case a Filco fits. I've seen four cases that will fit the phantom but Vortex is the only metal one.

I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

You can try finding an older Poker X or Pure. I think there's some LZ PCBs that would fit your criteria and GON may have some PCBs you can use. If you're really lucky, you can try looking to see if anyone is selling their GH60 Rev A or B PCBs. There are a few out there.

[ideus]

I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

What is the problem with Sprite's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.

[CPTBadAss]

What is the problem with Sprit's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.

I don't think massdrop has had a 60%  PCB recently.

Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.

[Photekq]

Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.

Except there have been two rounds in sprits GB. He's already shipping the first round, and plenty of people have received their PCBs.

[CPTBadAss]

Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.

Except there have been two rounds in sprits GB. He's already shipping the first round, and plenty of people have received their PCBs.

I haven't seen anything about shipping so maybe that's why I said that. Usually stuff pops up in the What did you get in the Mail thread and I've not seen anything from sprit's buys besides the springs that I mentioned before.

[Photekq]

People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

[CPTBadAss]

People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

Hm, I did see that one before. Forgot about it. I've had Ninjadoc tell me that he bought PCBs in Round 1 and has received nothing; no updates or parts. Maybe I'm biased because of this.

I guess I'll just ignore my skepticism and believe you.

[SpAmRaY]

People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56822.0

infiniti

and

swill

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58969.0

[epzy]

People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

Mine and jdcarpe's PCB's have been shipped from Sprit, and I know Riotonthebay got his a while back as well.

[infiniti]

naokira has his FaceW too. My order piggybacked with his.

jorgenslee also has his FaceW kit.

[intelli78]

Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

[CPTBadAss]

Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

I'm not sure, since you didn't give the full model number, but you can reference this DT Wiki article.

[intelli78]

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

[CPTBadAss]

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

I have a G80-8100 at home. I'll check when I'm home and post a picture. My gut tells me that it's not a standard stem spacing.

[Photekq]

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

[CPTBadAss]

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

[intelli78]

Hmm ok, thanks guys.

[ideus]

What is the problem with Sprit's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.

I don't think massdrop has had a 60%  PCB recently.

Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.

Mm, it makes the offer less interesting. It is a shame, it looks like a nice PCB and plate.

[CPTBadAss]

Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

The answer, according to this G80-8113 spacebar, is no. The stem spacing is *not* standard.

[ideus]

Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

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The answer, according to this G80-8113 spacebar, is no. The stem spacing is *not* standard.

Could someone elaborate on the reasoning behind non standard stems positions?

[Pacifist]

cherry logic

I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

[ideus]

cherry logic

I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

That explanation makes sense, to get a warrant for it someone should compare the PCBs on various models with different space bar's lengths and check the stems positions between them.

[Pacifist]

cherry logic

I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

That explanation makes sense, to get a warrant for it someone should compare the PCBs on various models with different space bar's lengths and check the stems positions between them.

I did that, some parts match up, some don't. Its so weird