Ducky Redefines "Purple" as Pink. A Ducky Shine 3 Warning

[BlueByLiquid]

I'm sure you all saw the videos of the ducky shine 3 with the awesome dark purple LEDs. I did and that is why I wanted one. I really wanted the YOTS version because it looked really great with the silver and the dark purple LEDs but when they made that just the white ones I got the shine 3. So I got my "purple" Ducky Shine 3 with blue keycaps today. Wow this is not purple not by anyone's definition! Jameslr recommended I make a separate post with photos to warn people about it so they could realize what they are getting. Luckily he actually got the blue one delivered as an accident so he was spared this issue.  This isn't just a slightly off-purple mixup these are HOT HOT pink, like crazy pink. Think barb just got her car pimped out in neon hot pink running lights pink. This photo doesn't do it justice. This is more pink than the Pink shine 2's that were out there. Its really frustrating because I got this thing specifically because it looked like ducky got their purple nice and rich based on all the info I had seen on it so far. Now we find out they just ordered pink LEDs and called them purple. Just letting people know to order a different color (Unless you really really like pink).

[jwaz]

Guess you can always turn the backlight off and learn to touch type.

[Puddsy]

Guess you can always turn the backlight off and learn to touch type.

Shots fired

[tbc]

some of us do touch type but like the aesthetics . just like everyone who buys keycaps.

[tp4tissue]

Um, actually  ALL of the below shades are purple

Color is not really a Fixed thing, different cultures may have blue and green labeled as the same color for example...

[BlueByLiquid]

Guess you can always turn the backlight off and learn to touch type.

Shots fired

Thanks for the constructive information. I can touch type. I like LEDs and I was just trying to let people know that they are selling pink LEDs and purple. Forgive me for trying to put helpful information here. Its amazing GH even gets new members when so many people are so nice.

[mazessj]

That's a shame, dude. I saw the purple ones in videos and see what you mean. Is MK willing to do anything for you? Unfortunately, the Blues with MX Blue are currently out of stock.

I'd have to look at the videos/pics again, but maybe what we thought was purple was really blue but looked purple on camera?

[BlueByLiquid]

That's a shame, dude. I saw the purple ones in videos and see what you mean. Is MK willing to do anything for you? Unfortunately, the Blues with MX Blue are currently out of stock.

Thanks! I have an email into them and I haven't heard anything. I am hopeful they will but I am betting even if they can I will have to wait a while because as you mentioned the Blues are out of stock. I'm not entirely sure I want it because I really just ordered it because I liked the purple ones in the videos (don't really need another keyboard), well I didn't like the different lighting patterns.

[smknjoe]

That picture above looks pretty purple.

[tp4tissue]

That picture above looks pretty purple.

lower your blue gamma setting.

[microsoft windows]

EEW! I DON'T WANT A PINK KEYBOARD!

[BlueByLiquid]

That picture above looks pretty purple.

Its the same color they sold as Pink for the shine 2s. I saw one of those back then that was sold as Pink and these are the same color.

[tp4tissue]

That picture above looks pretty purple.

Its the same color they sold as Pink for the shine 2s. I saw one of those back then that was sold as Pink and these are the same color.

look at the pantone chart, the ducky led color is still considered purple there.

[smknjoe]

I said pretty purple, lol. I does look pinkish purple. Bummer that it is the same as their pink. I would personally want a darker purple too.

[BlueByLiquid]

look at the pantone chart, the ducky led color is still considered purple there.

Here is purple that pantone typically calls purple:
https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20109&

Here is pink that pantone typically calls pink: https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20104&

There are greens pantone calls blue because they have run out of names.
The biggest issue is that they redefined it after showing off the shine as coming in a dark purple
Anyone looking at this in real life (as the picture really doesn't do it justice would say its a pink keyboard.

[tp4tissue]

look at the pantone chart, the ducky led color is still considered purple there.

Here is purple that pantone typically calls purple:
https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20109&

Here is pink that pantone typically calls pink: https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20104&

There are greens pantone calls blue because they have run out of names.
The biggest issue is that they redefined it after showing off the shine as coming in a dark purple
Anyone looking at this in real life (as the picture really doesn't do it justice would say its a pink keyboard.

There's no such thing as typical... it's ALWAYS AS NEEDED

[BlueByLiquid]

look at the pantone chart, the ducky led color is still considered purple there.

Here is purple that pantone typically calls purple:
https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20109&

Here is pink that pantone typically calls pink: https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20104&

There are greens pantone calls blue because they have run out of names.
The biggest issue is that they redefined it after showing off the shine as coming in a dark purple
Anyone looking at this in real life (as the picture really doesn't do it justice would say its a pink keyboard.

There's no such thing as typical... it's ALWAYS AS NEEDED

You've made my point no one (except maybe you and pantone) would say that is purple. I really don't want to argue about color differences with you I'm just trying to state that the keyboard LEDs are the ones Ducky sold as Pink last year and I believe most people would agree they are pink. Someone asked me to make this thread because they thought other people should know and I was trying to be helpful. If you don't like it ok but the argument that the color you have just shown is purple isn't worth arguing about anymore so I'm done. I'm not sure why you care as the ergodox isn't backlit.

[tp4tissue]

look at the pantone chart, the ducky led color is still considered purple there.

Here is purple that pantone typically calls purple:
https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20109&

Here is pink that pantone typically calls pink: https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=34&pg=20104&

There are greens pantone calls blue because they have run out of names.
The biggest issue is that they redefined it after showing off the shine as coming in a dark purple
Anyone looking at this in real life (as the picture really doesn't do it justice would say its a pink keyboard.

There's no such thing as typical... it's ALWAYS AS NEEDED

You've made my point no one (except maybe you and pantone) would say that is purple. I really don't want to argue about color differences with you I'm just trying to state that the keyboard LEDs are the ones Ducky sold as Pink last year and I believe most people would agree they are pink. Someone asked me to make this thread because they thought other people should know and I was trying to be helpful. If you don't like it ok but the argument that the color you have just shown is purple isn't worth arguing about anymore so I'm done. I'm not sure why you care as the ergodox isn't backlit.

You are blinded by cursory inspection.

Color is not a set thing. it has always been an arbitrary designation on the visible spectrum.


Just as grammar and language changes with time,  so does our concepts on COLOR.

Don't be a grammar nazi,, don't be a color nazi... 

[Photoelectric]

This is not news.  Shine II "purple" was also really magenta-pink.  In fact, many asian vendors have been selling them as "pink".  Purple is the word used in the U.S. to avoid intimidating the male population or something...

[BlueByLiquid]

This is not news.  Shine II "purple" was also really magenta-pink.  In fact, many asian vendors have been selling them as "pink".  Purple is the word used in the U.S. to avoid intimidating the male population or something...

The shine 2 came in pink: http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/DK9008_shine2.html

[Photoelectric]

Pink = Purple = same actual LEDS, just different names.  You will see that "pink" labeled as "purple" on mechanicalkeyboards.com.  It's not actually a different color.  It's in fact the same.  Notice that it's the Taiwanese site that calls it "pink", not a, say, American site.

[BlueByLiquid]

Pink = Purple = same actual LEDS, just different names.  You will see that "pink" labeled as "purple" on mechanicalkeyboards.com.  It's not actually a different color.  It's in fact the same.  Notice that it's the Taiwanese site that calls it "pink", not a, say, American site.

I understand that you are saying people in the US are using purple to describe pink LEDs. I'm not arguing that. Also my link wasn't to a seller it was to ducky's site. It is a different color than they have been showing off. Its also not the color MK chose to shade the "Purple LEDs" text letters on the keyboard to show that is the color your are getting. They could have shown the text "Purple LEDs" in a pink color but they didn't they chose a dark purple for the text color. I am just trying to help people realise they are not getting what has been shown off. There are purple LEDs that are actually purple like ducky has been showing off but they are not using them and I am trying to communicate that to other buyers.

[Photoelectric]

Are you sure though?  All purple LEDs I've seen on keyboards (including Max Keyboards) have been magenta-pink-like, not quite purple, but also definitely not pink.  These LEDs you're calling pink are not really pink either.  Call them magenta.  And different camera settings will portray them more pink or more purple, so if you're looking at videos or photos--you will see a variety of shades.

[BlueByLiquid]

Are you sure though?  All purple LEDs I've seen on keyboards (including Max Keyboards) have been magenta-pink-like, not quite purple, but also definitely not pink.  These LEDs you're calling pink are not really pink either.  Call them magenta.  And different camera settings will portray them more pink or more purple, so if you're looking at videos or photos--you will see a variety of shades.

It is more difficult to find darker purple LEDs and yes most of the keyboards I have seen are pink and that is why I was impressed when I saw ducky having dark purple LEDs. At least a couple of people have agreed with me about seeing the darker ones. I fully understand that different video sensors can have difficulty with blues so there are slight shifts often with photos. As I mention even my photo is not doing justice to just how pink these are and seems to be adding more blue probably in an attempt to make the image look more nature as large amounts of pink are not normal. I have 3mm purple LEDs in my hands here at my desk but they are not bright enough to use for backlighting for keyboards and I use them for headphone amp lights, etc.  I have seen brighter purple ones but they are usually sold out very very quickly. This is why I thought ducky must have ordered a huge bulk of them.

[Polymer]

I can see how you might see these as pink..but IMO they're closer to purple...The color coming back into the keyboard (leaking on the sides of the keycaps) is definitely purple...what you're seeing coming out of the keys, because of brightness, looks closer to pink...Have you tried turning down the brightness a bit?

[BlueByLiquid]

I can see how you might see these as pink..but IMO they're closer to purple...The color coming back into the keyboard (leaking on the sides of the keycaps) is definitely purple...what you're seeing coming out of the keys, because of brightness, looks closer to pink...Have you tried turning down the brightness a bit?

Yes I tried turning down the brightness and it is less HOT pink and more like soft pink but doesn't move closer to purple just a darker pink color.  And the the color coming out of the side is not well shown in the photo. It is also very hot pink I believe the iphone is just trying to tone it back there more because their is less color.

[Photoelectric]

Have you owned other Ducky keyboards?  I'm convinced that you just haven't looked at other keyboards (including Ducky's previous generations of Shines)--purple has always been more magenta.  It's not pink, it's magenta.  So it's not something that Ducky does in particular--it's a matter of nomenclature.  That same magenta has been sold as "purple" for a long long time.

[smknjoe]

In the above pic the edges around the keycaps look unmistakably purple. In the brighter center it's pinkish, but I wouldn't call it pink. Still, I understand you would prefer a darker purple.

I wonder if the brightness was reduced if it might produce a darker purple?

[jameslr]

I tried to adjust the spacebar LEDs on my blue LED board to get the proper mix to make a "deep purple", but I wasn't able to. The closest I came was the hot pink looking color that is in Blue's photo. I think the purple I saw in the videos were just an artifact of the camera sensor. I was under the impression it was a deeper purple than the one pictured. All the pictures I have seen on the internet of "purple" LED backlights on Ducky boards look pink.

[mazessj]

Descriptions of the previous generation Duckys appear to teeter between "purple" and "pink," with at least one describing them as purple/pink. For example, this guy notes that the purple is somewhat pink:

The various images found through a Google search show inconsistent colors, likely due to the cameras and settings used to take the pictures.

I also reviewed the video taken at Computex by LinuxTechTips (

) and the YOTS does appear have a pinkish purple color, but it looks darker probably because of the camera.

So "pinkish purple" (or "purplish pink" ) might be a more accurate description.

[mazessj]

I tried to adjust the spacebar LEDs on my blue LED board to get the proper mix to make a "deep purple", but I wasn't able to. The closest I came was the hot pink looking color that is in Blue's photo. I think the purple I saw in the videos were just an artifact of the camera sensor. I was under the impression it was a deeper purple than the one pictured. All the pictures I have seen on the internet of "purple" LED backlights on Ducky boards look pink.

Jameslr, try running through the color demo for the spacebar by pressing Fn+0(Ins). I think there's a nice purple in there.

[jameslr]

I just tried that demo and it crashed my board (this has happened a few times now). I rebooted and was able to perform the demo without it crashing. This keyboard seems pretty unstable at the moment. I didn't see anything better than a hot pink or magenta.

[mazessj]

I just tried that demo and it crashed my board (this has happened a few times now). I rebooted and was able to perform the demo without it crashing. This keyboard seems pretty unstable at the moment. I didn't see anything better than a hot pink or magenta.

That sucks that it keeps locking up. Maybe you should RMA it. Mine hasn't given me any problems like that (knock on wood). Anyway, I see what you mean about the pink/magenta. It appears more purple as it fades out. I don't know. Maybe you just need to keep tweaking until you find the right mix of RGB (maybe more blue). Try not making it too bright, too.

BTW, the two colors you're referring to appear after the light blue and before the red, correct? I can see that you might not regard them as an ideal purple, so I think you just need to tweak it to get the shade you want.

[R E D H O T]

The color looks like psychedelic purple to me.

[bigsid05]

I agree that the color after the cyan/light blue is a pink/magenta. I would NOT classify that as purple at all.

I can't really get a good purple when mixing the RGB, it always comes out red/pinkinsh. Certainly not something I would be satisfied with if I ordered a purple board.

[MJ45]

On their website Ducky calls that led color PINK most U.S. keyboard dealers call it Purple. I have owned a Ducky Year of the Dragon red MX and it was most definitely Pink in person, but looked more purplish in photos and video.

[bMind]

Well..I dunno, but it looks like you're having it on max brightness. I think this makes all the colors, not only Purple, to be a bit over-saturated.

And..to be honest..I like the color of the Purple/Pink Shine 3 that you posted I think I'll be getting this color for me (or a white one). Purple with white caps (like Shine 2 had) it will look soo sexy

[Photoelectric]

Purple with white caps (like Shine 2 had) it will look soo sexy

 

You can also see that the purple-"magenta" LEDs coming through pink caps definitely don't look pink.  They are significantly more blue.

[bMind]

Purple with white caps (like Shine 2 had) it will look soo sexy

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You can also see that the purple-"magenta" LEDs coming through pink caps definitely don't look pink.  They are significantly more blue.

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Well..guess where I got the idea?

And I simply love the first picture! Looks soo awesome!

But unfortunately there is no purple with white caps version of Shine 3. And the only place where I've found the caps set separately is PCCASEGEAR and they only ship to Australia.. :/

[CPTBadAss]

My Pure was sold saying it had "Purple" LEDs but it really looks like the pink in the OP. I love pink and purple though so it never bothered me.

I think I read that it was a voltage problem with the LEDs that cause the LEDs to look like different colors. But don't quote me.

[TheSoulhunter]

Isn't purple actually pink just with lower luma (less bright)?

[Photoelectric]

Purple should be more blue.  In simple terms, pink is more like milky red.  Purple is more like darker lavender.  Ducky Shine LEDs are too blue to be called pink and too pink to be called purple.  Cold magenta more like it.  But depending on the material they shine through and intensity, the end result may look on the pink side.  But I would still not call them pink, because I own a pink Filco keyboard and also pink Shine caps, and both were significantly warmer and more pink than my Ducky Shine II LEDs, which appeared noticeably colder and toward blue in comparison.

[Jixr]

replace them wtih UV leds = bad assery.

[Grim Fandango]

Guess you can always turn the backlight off and learn to touch type.

Seriously though. Not a fan of those fluorescent bright backlights. You do not actually need them for anything, and it just gives this bright glow that is more distracting than anything else. I am also not sure whether the legends are really easy to read like that. Though it looks cool.

[Danule]

Are there any clear blue caps that you can put over those pink leds to make them look purple?

[DoomDoomDoom]

I'll find out just how purple/pink the LEDs are when mine arrives at the end of this week. Suppose I should be in contact with MechanicalKeyboards about any exchange policy.

[rowdy]

Are there any clear blue caps that you can put over those pink leds to make them look purple?

SP have some.

[AnteroX]

I just got my shine 3 with purple LEDs. It looks very pinkish in pictures but it looks very purpleish in person although not as purple as it was shown in the videos. It looks like perfect purple around 70% or 80% brightness. Good thing they included a different spacebar because that snake one was just horrendous.

[jabar]

If you did your research with previous Ducky Purple LED keyboards, you'd already know their Purples are closer to Pink.

Still looks cool to me.

[noisyturtle]

Seems the same as the YotD led's, why are you surprised?