Deck Francium for sell on Ebay!!!!

[BucklingSpring]

Holly Molly look what I found!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-Best-Desk-francium-CBL-87-LED-Clic-Type-Blackit-keyboard-/141083715409?pt=Keyboard_Mice_Bundles&hash=item20d93ea751

The site is Picture heavy - I'll grab some pics and post here.

What is funny is the typo -

DESK instead of DECK in the title - $188.00

Another seller got the brand right.... at $249.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deck-Francium-CBL-87-Cherry-MX-BLACK-Backlit-LED-Mechanical-Keyboard-USB-Eng-/321233370678?pt=Keyboard_Mice_Bundles&hash=item4acb003e36

I just clicked purchase on a Korean Francium at $188...

Can't wait to see what the mailman will deliver. I'm planning to coat the Korean font or switch the keycaps with one of my other Decks.

[dante]

Was told by someone at Deck that these should be available state side by the end of the year.

[BucklingSpring]

Was told by someone at Deck that these should be available state side by the end of the year.

CRAP... I should of wait then.

[BucklingSpring]

Picture set 1/3

[BucklingSpring]

Picture Set 2/3

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Picture Set 3/3

[BucklingSpring]

There is something here that REALLY worries me.

Deck are known to have the BEST backlit friendly Keycaps by using PBT


The Francium artwork got THIS


Which really looks like coated ABS.

I hope Deck didn't chose to go the Cheap way. Because quality keycap what made Deck so special to me.

Stay tuned

[dante]

Per a translated Korean BBS - these are indeed doubleshot keycaps.

They would certainly have to be to compete against the backlit juggernaught Ducky.

[BucklingSpring]

Depends what you want to compete with.

I'd rather buy a more expensive Deck with PBT keycaps than a cheap Deck that is just as bad as the rest of the bunch.
$188-$249 is Deck high price tag territory at expected quality. This Francium better be justifying its price.

I already regret my purchase just because of this and seriously thinking of cancelling it.

Per a translated Korean BBS - these are indeed doubleshot keycaps.

They would certainly have to be to compete against the backlit juggernaught Ducky.

[BucklingSpring]

(off topic) Hey Dante, noticed your avatar. Did you get your NMB with Black Space Invaders?

[BucklingSpring]

Example of double shot sh!t after few months of use.



Please Deck... Don't do this.

[dante]

(off topic) Hey Dante, noticed your avatar. Did you get your NMB with Black Space Invaders?

DTK inbound today.  NMB on Monday.

[uberknarf]

There is something here that REALLY worries me.

Deck are known to have the BEST backlit friendly Keycaps by using PBT

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The Francium artwork got THIS
(Attachment Link)

Which really looks like coated ABS.

I hope Deck didn't chose to go the Cheap way. Because quality keycap what made Deck so special to me.

Stay tuned

Hmmm. This is troubling.

I've been pondering getting a Deck with PBTs because they look so good, but I'm really turned off by the typeface. Any idea if these are ever sold as a keycap set (no board)? Or better still, does anyone else make backlit PBT with a more professional-looking legend?

[tp4tissue]

what's so special about these keyboards??

[SpAmRaY]

They are new?

[Linkbane]

How much of a nerd are you when you get excited because you thought the title said 'Francium for sale on ebay'?

[BucklingSpring]

Big nerd I guess.

Are you refering to the extremely unstable radioactive element  #87 on the periodic table?

Wait a sec... 87 as in 87 keys... Jeez this concept didn't jump on my face at first glance.

How much of a nerd are you when you get excited because you thought the title said 'Francium for sale on ebay'?

[BucklingSpring]

TG3 which is Deck's mother company.

Folks here are buying dirt cheap used TG3 backlit on ebay just to scavenger the keys.

does anyone else make backlit PBT with a more professional-looking legend?

[BucklingSpring]

I thought they were Deck's quality and good looking. Two concepts that couldn't be put in the same sentence before.

But it seems that Deck dropped one to get closer to the other. 

what's so special about these keyboards??

[Grendel]

Meh, Deck (even though I'm typing this on a Legend Frost. )

I am sorry first of all these were mass produced in our facility in China so we are not holding any raw components.  Also, the nature of our business is to sell keyboards we do not sell components.

[dante]

So much for made in Wisconsin, y0

[CommunistWitchDr]

I thought they were Deck's quality and good looking. Two concepts that couldn't be put in the same sentence before.

But it seems that Deck dropped one to get closer to the other. 

what's so special about these keyboards??

http://mechkb.tumblr.com/post/59664045773/our-stock-of-deck-hassiums-are-genuine-pbt-doubleshot
http://www.mechkb.com/products/deck-hassium-mechanical-keyboard.html

Get em there and the caps don't suck, better than the original deck even

[BucklingSpring]

Researching TG3 Site, I found that the beloved Deck keycaps are also considered double shot. So I guess double shot doesn't exclude PBT.

The fellow seller at eBay was nice enough to cancel the order AFTER the money transfer. WHICH IS VERY VERY NICE. Meanwhile in his response he wrote that the keycaps on the Francium are the same PBT keycaps found in other Deck boards. This statement is puzzling because this is not what the artwork shows. Maybe I was a little quick to pull the plug.

Per a translated Korean BBS - these are indeed doubleshot keycaps.

They would certainly have to be to compete against the backlit juggernaught Ducky.

[BucklingSpring]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! So if the new Hassium got PBT, then the nice Korean seller must be right when claiming the Francium also got PBT.

I thought they were Deck's quality and good looking. Two concepts that couldn't be put in the same sentence before.

But it seems that Deck dropped one to get closer to the other. 

what's so special about these keyboards??

http://mechkb.tumblr.com/post/59664045773/our-stock-of-deck-hassiums-are-genuine-pbt-doubleshot
http://www.mechkb.com/products/deck-hassium-mechanical-keyboard.html

Get em there and the caps don't suck, better than the original deck even

[BucklingSpring]

Just clicked Purchase on the Hassium.

I had to cheat a little, they don't offer any other shipping option than Australia  - I hope the store will be nice. I enter Australia, but added a note to change the Country in the shipping address and invoice extra shipping fees.

http://mechkb.tumblr.com/post/59664045773/our-stock-of-deck-hassiums-are-genuine-pbt-doubleshot
http://www.mechkb.com/products/deck-hassium-mechanical-keyboard.html

Get em there and the caps don't suck, better than the original deck even

[inteli722]

Doubleshot PBT backlit, you say?

Goddammit, I need these to come to the US.

[BucklingSpring]

Deck always had them.

Older Deck PBT Keycap design


Newer Deck PBT keycap not yet officially available here (Hassium 108 key, Francium 87 key)
(pic from http://www.mechkb.com/products/deck-hassium-mechanical-keyboard.html )

Doubleshot PBT backlit, you say?

Goddammit, I need these to come to the US.

[dante]

It will be very interesting to see how Ducky responds to this.  The new keycaps look great!

[inteli722]

Deck always had them.

Older Deck PBT Keycap design

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Newer Deck PBT keycap not yet officially available here (Hassium 108 key, Francium 87 key)

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Doubleshot PBT backlit, you say?

Goddammit, I need these to come to the US.

I wouldn't necessarily consider the older Deck keys true doubleshots, because it was a general area shot then painted over, not the character itself shot. Because the originals were painted over, it seems like they would wear out faster.

[zoolzoo]

its definitely a keyboard

[BucklingSpring]

I wouldn't necessarily consider the older Deck keys true doubleshots, because it was a general area shot then painted over, not the character itself shot. Because the originals were painted over, it seems like they would wear out faster.

The wearing of the older design remain to be seen. My few years old Deck Legends are as ugly as they were NIB when I got them. Not a single trace of wearing.

Something I cannot say about my CM Storm Trigger that doesn't even has 1/10th of Deck`s life and already leaking light on the edges

[dante]

Well stop typing on the edges!

[BucklingSpring]

That's the thing. Except for the spacebar, I don't.

I don't even use the Macro key shown on the picture.

I think Cooler Master uses self destructing biodegradable material. Which I find very noble of them. If all other garbages were made that way, the planet would be less polluted.

Well stop typing on the edges!

[tp4tissue]

That's the thing. Except for the spacebar, I don't.

I don't even use the Macro key shown on the picture.

I think Cooler Master uses self destructing biodegradable material. Which I find very noble of them. If all other garbages were made that way, the planet would be less polluted.

Well stop typing on the edges!

when plastics heat and cool... "THIS" happens...

Backlit double shot is the future....

Although backlit in general is silly.. because you should never be typing in such dimly lit-situations anyway..

[BucklingSpring]

Sure.

But not all brands makes them good.
After 20min of Thinner exposure - From left to right -> [Deck] [Mionix] [Ducky Dye Sub]

Backlit double shot is the future....

Although backlit in general is silly.. because you should never be typing in such dimly lit-situations anyway..

[catnipz0098]

Sure.

But not all brands makes them good.
After 20min of Thinner exposure - From left to right -> [Ducky Shine ABS] [Deck] [Mionix] [Ducky Dye Sub]

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Backlit double shot is the future....

Although backlit in general is silly.. because you should never be typing in such dimly lit-situations anyway..

 :-X did the thinner completely destroy the ducky shine abs cap?

[MechKB]

Hey everyone, I feel I should clarify some of the details in this thread.

1) Indeed there is a Deck Francium. We actually had some prototypes in the office. We did not announce it at the time because Deck was unsure if they would 'skip' over it in favour of another TKL model. I guess now that it's starting to appear here and there, there's no harm acknowledging it.

2) The US ANSI Deck Hassiums do use DS-PBT as seen in our picture. However, we have it on good accounts that the Korean versions of Hassium used ABS since the molding process could not be quickly / cheaply adapted to different fonts (i.e. non-deck font, Hangul layout). This may have changed, we are not experts in the Korean market so the only way to know for sure is if someone gets word from Deck or some gets their hands on one.

3) Ducky Shine key caps were not used in our experiment, the black 'outline' is the left-overs from the Mionix ABS which seeped onto the tissue. We did not use a Ducky Shine key cap in our tests but I doubt the result would be much different from the Mionix ABS since the material should be the same.

Any questions, let me know. I will do my best to answer.

[Pacifist]

Hey everyone, I feel I should clarify some of the details in this thread.

1) Indeed there is a Deck Francium. We actually had some prototypes in the office. We did not announce it at the time because Deck was unsure if they would 'skip' over it in favour of another TKL model. I guess now that it's starting to appear here and there, there's no harm acknowledging it.

2) The US ANSI Deck Hassiums do use DS-PBT as seen in our picture. However, we have it on good accounts that the Korean versions of Hassium used ABS since the molding process could not be quickly / cheaply adapted to different fonts (i.e. non-deck font, Hangul layout). This may have changed, we are not experts in the Korean market so the only way to know for sure is if someone gets word from Deck or some gets their hands on one.

3) Ducky Shine key caps were not used in our experiment, the black 'outline' is the left-overs from the Mionix ABS which seeped onto the tissue. We did not use a Ducky Shine key cap in our tests but I doubt the result would be much different from the Mionix ABS since the material should be the same.

Any questions, let me know. I will do my best to answer.

About how much will it cost in the USA?

[inteli722]

Hey everyone, I feel I should clarify some of the details in this thread.

1) Indeed there is a Deck Francium. We actually had some prototypes in the office. We did not announce it at the time because Deck was unsure if they would 'skip' over it in favour of another TKL model. I guess now that it's starting to appear here and there, there's no harm acknowledging it.

2) The US ANSI Deck Hassiums do use DS-PBT as seen in our picture. However, we have it on good accounts that the Korean versions of Hassium used ABS since the molding process could not be quickly / cheaply adapted to different fonts (i.e. non-deck font, Hangul layout). This may have changed, we are not experts in the Korean market so the only way to know for sure is if someone gets word from Deck or some gets their hands on one.

3) Ducky Shine key caps were not used in our experiment, the black 'outline' is the left-overs from the Mionix ABS which seeped onto the tissue. We did not use a Ducky Shine key cap in our tests but I doubt the result would be much different from the Mionix ABS since the material should be the same.

Any questions, let me know. I will do my best to answer.

Do you know if the US Franciums have the Thick PBT Doubleshots like the Hassiums?

[MechKB]

<snip>

Do you know if the US Franciums have the Thick PBT Doubleshots like the Hassiums?

The US is not our area of responsibility so I cannot tell you for sure. Having said that, our ANSI Franciums came with the same thick DS-PBT that the Hassiums have. So I have every reason to assume the answer will be yes.

<snip>

About how much will it cost in the USA?

This is a question I cannot answer

[inteli722]

<snip>

Do you know if the US Franciums have the Thick PBT Doubleshots like the Hassiums?

The US is not our area of responsibility so I cannot tell you for sure. Having said that, our ANSI Franciums came with the same thick DS-PBT that the Hassiums have. So I have every reason to assume the answer will be yes.

Thanks. ANSI Franciums is what I meant.

[jabar]

I wouldn't necessarily consider the older Deck keys true doubleshots, because it was a general area shot then painted over, not the character itself shot. Because the originals were painted over, it seems like they would wear out faster.

dye-subbed over, not painted. Will outlast almost anything.

[inteli722]

I wouldn't necessarily consider the older Deck keys true doubleshots, because it was a general area shot then painted over, not the character itself shot. Because the originals were painted over, it seems like they would wear out faster.

dye-subbed over, not painted. Will outlast almost anything.

wow. OK. That is considerably more durable. However, it still is dyesubbed over, so it looks a little ugly with the slightly higher elevation.

Please excuse me. I wasn't thinking and I forgot that Dye-subbing, like Doubleshotting, adds no extra height to the key.

[Topre]

The United States layout should come with double-shot PBT keycaps.

The Deck Francium on eBay shows pictures of ABS Korean keycaps, whether it comes with PBT keycaps or ABS keycaps will be unknown until someone tries to find out.

Also, the original Deck keycaps were not just painted over. They were dye-sub PBT keycaps. One plastic piece was dye-subbed then glued onto the other plastic piece. They would still last much longer than Ducky, or any other ABS keycaps.

[BucklingSpring]

I just received very comforting information from someone at TG3.

"the plan is to have Francium and Hassium available in the US by Thanksgiving"

"Regarding the keycaps, some foreign models are using the cheaper lower quality keycaps. The ones that we will be selling are top of the line"

"We actually made a change from our old keycaps, but it is to an even higher quality. Instead of the PBT with dye sublimation, which resulted in light leakage as well as the “raised” edges, we are now using a true two-shot backlit PBT. A review of the keycaps we will be using is here: http://mechkb.tumblr.com/post/59664045773/our-stock-of-deck-hassiums-are-genuine-pbt-doubleshot"

I'm extremely happy to read this. Looks like Deck took the best and made it even better!

I can't wait to get one of each in my collection. 

AWESOME!!!

[dante]

I just received very comforting information from someone at TG3.

"the plan is to have Francium and Hassium available in the US by Thanksgiving"

"Regarding the keycaps, some foreign models are using the cheaper lower quality keycaps. The ones that we will be selling are top of the line"

"We actually made a change from our old keycaps, but it is to an even higher quality. Instead of the PBT with dye sublimation, which resulted in light leakage as well as the “raised” edges, we are now using a true two-shot backlit PBT. A review of the keycaps we will be using is here: http://mechkb.tumblr.com/post/59664045773/our-stock-of-deck-hassiums-are-genuine-pbt-doubleshot"

I'm extremely happy to read this. Looks like Deck took the best and made it even better!

I can't wait to get one of each in my collection. 

AWESOME!!!

Wow ... good luck selling the remaining Deck Legend stock!

[Grendel]

Shouldn't be a big problem for the Legends Frost or Ice Tactile...

[BucklingSpring]

Especially if Deck dare to lower their price for the "Legacy" models.

We'll see.

Shouldn't be a big problem for the Legends Frost or Ice Tactile...

[catnipz0098]

Can we buy only the caps? I want that pbt goodness 

[BucklingSpring]

Asked many times... So far it was not possible.

But people buy old/refurbished TG3 backlit for ~$15-$25 on ebay and scavenger the PBT keycaps.

Can we buy only the caps? I want that pbt goodness