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Offline 1pq

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 23:40:32 »
1pq, you mentioned about the Topre plastics - is it the key caps (PBT) instead of the rubber domes that making the difference to you?

It could be, although I think it's more about the stability of the mx stem. I don't have any mx pbt cabs yet, though, so I'll have to try those and see if it makes a difference!
I heard it ruins the clack of bottoming out, though...which I love (unlike many others).
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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 23:49:14 »
I don't think the feel of a topre board has ever been accurately explained by anyone, anywhere.


Yeah. Even 45g vs 55g cannot be put into words (IMO). Everything I read has not compared to actually using each type of switch that I've come across.


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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:12:24 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 02:17:34 »
I gotta learn how you guys put these low-cut emoticons so easily!


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Damn auto correct! I mean lol-cat
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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 02:28:24 »

Have you ever felt boobs?   I mean, they're not really like mx-reds.. but  they certainly DO NOT have  a tactile bump at the top of actuation like topre..

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When you use the Thorpies,  never squish the key down hard all the way.  Why you may say, because you need to know how a woman wants/needs to be touched.  Never go in hard with force, you caress her gently with repeated rhythm.  That has always been the secret (if you could call it that) :thumb: .

It comes with knowing and years of practice before you accomplish the task of using a Thorpie correctly and getting a woman off in any given situation.

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:34:17 »
I gotta learn how you guys put these low-cut emoticons so easily!


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Damn auto correct! I mean lol-cat
!!


yea same program

emoti-converter

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:35:23 »

Have you ever felt boobs?   I mean, they're not really like mx-reds.. but  they certainly DO NOT have  a tactile bump at the top of actuation like topre..

Show Image


When you use the Thorpies,  never squish the key down hard all the way.  Why you may say, because you need to know how a woman wants/needs to be touched.  Never go in hard with force, you caress her gently with repeated rhythm.  That has always been the secret (if you could call it that) :thumb: .

It comes with knowing and years of practice before you accomplish the task of using a Thorpie correctly and getting a woman off in any given situation.

dude... what are u talking about ?  is Thorpie, Topre?

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 07:09:22 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 15:19:40 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 15:31:07 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 15:33:04 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.

I have HHKB :)
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:07:01 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got  the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS. 

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:12:09 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got  the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS. 

Yeah, this.

I tried using it under Windows, but failed, miserably.

On Mac - no worries!
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:58:56 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got  the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS. 

Yeah, this.

I tried using it under Windows, but failed, miserably.

On Mac - no worries!

It's all about the dip switches!

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 18:10:43 »
NO one "Types" by pressing each switch down slowly..
Not while typing perhaps, but when gaming or using cursor and nav keys many people press the keys slowly.
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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 20:34:41 »
Topre feels like a high-quality rubber dome with the addition of tactility. There is no scratchiness, so yes, it is smooth.
High Quality rubber dome?


Nice touch switching out the Enter, Win, and Alt keys from an HHKB. Exactly what I plan to do once I can get my hands on some Blank Whites for my HHKB.


The Rubbermain logo on the other hands....  ???
I am a Mac user and hate the Windoze bubble keys on the Realforce keyboards. The Rubbermaid logo is just a bit of Photoshop editing for fun.

Something we have to put up with in a Mac world - Windows keyboards.

You could have gone with HHKB for instance. No "windows logo" key. Just a diamond symbol.

Also if you are lucky you can source keyboards without the extra windows keys, though that is only if you don't use the key at all.
I have a HHKB Pro 2 its my 1st Topre experience and liked it so much I got  the Realforce 87ub 55g for when I go TKL. The HHKB is the most Mac compatible keyboard available and has more functionality than on Win PC's. For me the Command (diamond), Opt keys are used much with Mac OS. 

Yeah, this.

I tried using it under Windows, but failed, miserably.

On Mac - no worries!

It's all about the dip switches!

It's more about the missing dedicated arrow keys and function keys - I use them all the time under Windows, but much less often on Mac.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 21:25:49 »
I agree with rowdy, I somehow find that I used less Fn keys in Mac, non existence actually... but arrow keys - I do use them in Mac too because of spreadsheet at work. So I missed that a lot. I am slowly adjusting.
 

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 21:27:40 »
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 21:38:25 »
I agree with rowdy, I somehow find that I used less Fn keys in Mac, non existence actually... but arrow keys - I do use them in Mac too because of spreadsheet at work. So I missed that a lot. I am slowly adjusting.

FC660C would be the next best thing.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:19:00 »
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.

I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:22:43 »
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.

I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.

Ctrl and Backspace are easy to get used to, even when I switch between TKL and HHKB layout every day.

But when I go to do pipe on HHKB, invariably the first few times I hit Shift-backspace instead.
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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:57:20 »
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.

I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.

Ctrl and Backspace are easy to get used to, even when I switch between TKL and HHKB layout every day.

But when I go to do pipe on HHKB, invariably the first few times I hit Shift-backspace instead.

Yep, definitely happens. Ctrl/capslock seems like a natural switch considering how little I use capslock.

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:54:03 »
It took me a while to get used to the HHKB layout, but now using the FN layer for arrows, etc. is just as normal as if there were dedicated arrows.

I especially got used to backspace being directly above enter it's closer and I definitely use it a lot more than pipe/forwardslash. I map most of my keyboards to this now. And also swap ESC with tilde, again because I tend to use ESC a lot more and it's less of a reach.

Ctrl and Backspace are easy to get used to, even when I switch between TKL and HHKB layout every day.

But when I go to do pipe on HHKB, invariably the first few times I hit Shift-backspace instead.

Yep, definitely happens. Ctrl/capslock seems like a natural switch considering how little I use capslock.

Yep that happened to me during my first few days of using the HHKB

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Re: topre smoothness?
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 00:54:27 »
I feel some of my HHKB keys are starting to 'broken into' .. I am not sure if I am dreaming or what. It made it less stiff and actually easier to type on. I love stiffness (that's why I love Clears) but now that some of the keys are less stiff, I am enjoying this keyboard more :D