Discussing the finer points of Android vs iOS with tp4 and kmiller8

[Photoelectric]

those who have an IOS device, those with android make me jealous still.

Don't be--iOS (and apple stuff) have their benefits.  I've been using various custom Android ROMs on my phones and a tablet for 2 and a half years now, and they are invariably very buggy--the trade-off for more functionality.  I loved my iPad when I had it for having great stability, superior screen, and overall it was a pleasure to use (could even do some productive things things like remote desktop connection, Evernote for synced work notes, etc.)--everything was very snappy.

Edit: who knew I'd be making such a topic for discussion all on my own

[kmiller8]

those with android make me jealous still.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Phototelectric.

Android is utter and complete ****. Hands down. If you get an android device, good luck ever getting a new OS within 6 months of it's release by google. The android market is so fragmented and inconsistent it's terrible. If you buy a top end ($150+ phone) you might get a year of updates from the carrier, pay anything less than that and LOL, you might get one update.

Granted, you do have a very thriving community of modders like cyanogenmod and xda-developers, but that requires phones that can be unlocked and jailbroken, which is coming few and far between from what I understand, carriers are starting to crack down on that ****...

Oh and don't get me started on Android cameras, compared to the speed of the iPhone cameras, and the quality/control of the Nokia camera (in the $200+ market) no Android device comes close.

There are two phones anyone should consider, iPhone if you want a safe choice, and Windows Phone if you're feeling adventurous.

Android's current state is such utter **** it's not even funny. I'm so happy I got out of that environment :/

[kmiller8]

Please don't make this an ios v android thread

they both have their pros and cons

argument over

iOS > Windows Phone > Android

Don't tell me what to do OuO

[tp4tissue]

those with android make me jealous still.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Phototelectric.

Android is utter and complete ****. Hands down. If you get an android device, good luck ever getting a new OS within 6 months of it's release by google. The android market is so fragmented and inconsistent it's terrible. If you buy a top end ($150+ phone) you might get a year of updates from the carrier, pay anything less than that and LOL, you might get one update.

Granted, you do have a very thriving community of modders like cyanogenmod and xda-developers, but that requires phones that can be unlocked and jailbroken, which is coming few and far between from what I understand, carriers are starting to crack down on that ****...

Oh and don't get me started on Android cameras, compared to the speed of the iPhone cameras, and the quality/control of the Nokia camera (in the $200+ market) no Android device comes close.

There are two phones anyone should consider, iPhone if you want a safe choice, and Windows Phone if you're feeling adventurous.

Android's current state is such utter **** it's not even funny. I'm so happy I got out of that environment :/

Nexus 5 >> iphone

camera? let's agree all phone cameras suck, exception to the nokias

OS support.. what's wrong with android.. you mention problems.. what problems did you have exactly..

and honestly..

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...  Iphone, sometimes you gotta wait before you can 'arrrrgh-matey' it up.. between os jail-breaks.. that could be quite a few months in between..

[Photoelectric]

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...

Do you even android?..
I hadn't paid for any of the apps I used on my iPad either--lots of free ones available.

[tp4tissue]

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...

Do you even android?..
I hadn't paid for any of the apps I used on my iPad either--lots of free ones available.

i'm not sure how ur using that verb...

But, my point is... you know how PC gaming is awesome cuz "arrrghh!!!"..

The same is true on Android..

Iphone... mostly "arrrgh".. but then there's the "dry period" before the next jailbreak, or some random update that apple pushes out, and all ur apps stop working..   I had this happen to me 3-4 times already, I was on iPhone 1 8gb, all the way through iPhone 5...   

We had a nexus 4 in the family and now the 5,  and it's been nothing but smooth sailing (arrrrgh)...

[kmiller8]

Nexus 5 >> iphone

camera? let's agree all phone cameras suck, exception to the nokias

OS support.. what's wrong with android.. you mention problems.. what problems did you have exactly..

and honestly..

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...  Iphone, sometimes you gotta wait before you can 'arrrrgh-matey' it up.. between os jail-breaks.. that could be quite a few months in between..

OS Support. I was talking about the lack of updates to the OS, I bought a $200 Android phone ~6 months before 4.x came out, that phone was never officially updated past 2.x. However I can go buy an iPhone 4 from 2010 and still update it to the most recent version. It's just massive fragmentation either by carrier/device manufacturer OS conflicts or just because the Android device manufacturers will just crank out 6 phones a year and obviously can't support all of them for any longer than a few months. To be fair, Windows phone had this problem too transitioning from WP7->WP8, but since WP8 they've been doing a good job of rolling out OTA updates for all phones instead of just the 1 or 2 most recent releases.

I never have any use for paid apps. I guess I don't live on my phone like some other people do, I just use it for music/social.

[tp4tissue]

Nexus 5 >> iphone

camera? let's agree all phone cameras suck, exception to the nokias

OS support.. what's wrong with android.. you mention problems.. what problems did you have exactly..

and honestly..

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...  Iphone, sometimes you gotta wait before you can 'arrrrgh-matey' it up.. between os jail-breaks.. that could be quite a few months in between..

OS Support. I was talking about the lack of updates to the OS, I bought a $200 Android phone ~6 months before 4.x came out, that phone was never officially updated past 2.x. However I can go buy an iPhone 4 from 2010 and still update it to the most recent version. It's just massive fragmentation either by carrier/device manufacturer OS conflicts or just because the Android device manufacturers will just crank out 6 phones a year and obviously can't support all of them for any longer than a few months. To be fair, Windows phone had this problem too transitioning from WP7->WP8, but since WP8 they've been doing a good job of rolling out OTA updates for all phones instead of just the 1 or 2 most recent releases.

I never have any use for paid apps. I guess I don't live on my phone like some other people do, I just use it for music/social.

But.. kmiller...  you can't blame the fragmentation of the android market for the issue you encountered..

YOU CHOSE that phone..

you could've chosen the nexus 4 (6months ago), and have the same if not faster support from google, and the mods community.

[tp4tissue]

stfu about android. that has nothing to do with this thread.

Jailbreak isn't working too hot for me ATM, restoring, going to try again.

Nexus wh0000t !!

[kmiller8]

But.. kmiller...  you can't blame the fragmentation of the android market for the issue you encountered..

YOU CHOSE that phone..

you could've chosen the nexus 4 (6months ago), and have the same if not faster support from google, and the mods community.

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true, I could have gotten a nexus phone. But that's the exception to the android fragmentation, not the standard (which it should be). And when I had bought my first android device, the Nexus devices has vastly inferior hardware at a much higher price. obviously these past few years have changed those things.

[tp4tissue]

But.. kmiller...  you can't blame the fragmentation of the android market for the issue you encountered..

YOU CHOSE that phone..

you could've chosen the nexus 4 (6months ago), and have the same if not faster support from google, and the mods community.

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true, I could have gotten a nexus phone. But that's the exception to the android fragmentation, not the standard (which it should be). And when I had bought my first android device, the Nexus devices has vastly inferior hardware at a much higher price. obviously these past few years have changed those things.

Well..OK... lets all live and discuss TODAY...

Nexus 5...  cheaper, great screen, free apps forever, support from google + android community

[SpAmRaY]

Android is the best

/thread

[tp4tissue]

Android is the best

/thread

/free apps

[vatin]

Just get a Nexus.

[kmiller8]

Well..OK... lets all live and discuss TODAY...

Nexus 5...  cheaper, great screen, free apps forever, support from google + android community

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Today. The Nexus 5 is a pretty good competitor in the smartphone market, but as mentioned above, the camera is terrible which is a major driving factor for a lot of people, myself included.

I am quite impressed with how the screens have come on Android phones, they're on-par and in some cases above-par what Apple has which is a huge jump from back in the day.

"support from google" sure. I don't think google can spell support, It's very much more the android community where support will be coming from. Not google.

And your "free apps" argument... I prefer to not go down that path, and if absolutely necessary, buy the apps I need (mostly jailbreak-only apps)

[Puddsy]

Android is the best

/thread

/free apps

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"free"

yarr

[demik]

Windows phone is NOT better than android. Windows phone is absolute ****.

[tp4tissue]

Windows phone is NOT better than android. Windows phone is absolute ****.

Have you used a windows phone?

I really don't see anything wrong with it.. It's got most of the stuff I use...

Certainly many android apps have an edge due to longer development and such, but there's really nothing of the typical phone suite, MISSING from WP8..

[Dubsgalore]

iOS 7 is dooky sauce, as discussed properly 

The one thing i wish apple would allow is allowing you to go back with older OS'...I want to go back to iOS5....but of course I'm stuck on 6.1.3 right now...

[Michael]

Windows Phone isn't that bad. I had one for a long time (Nokia Lumia 900), and the only complaint I had was the ****ty hardware and lack of some apps I liked on iOS. But the OS itself was very solid, ran smooth and was fun to use.

[Photoelectric]

Windows phone is intriguing, but every time I've looked at one in stores, the UI felt less "immediate".  In other words, perhaps there are options to add specialized shortcuts to the start screen, but some things felt like they took a few actions to get to.  Still, I'm a fan of Windows 8, having used Windows 7 Pro since when it first became available for public testing, so I'm open-minded about Windows phones.  My first Windows phone was a Motorola MPx200:



It was extremely slow, but small, and it was fun to think of having a mini Windows device, though very limited.  My next Windows phone was an HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5, which I used for a few weeks and then put a custom Android ROM onto it.  That phone is amazing and is still going strong through a few iterations of various ROMs.  I had looked into an HTC HD7 for Windows 7, but it just didn't seem appealing back when it came out.  Finally, recently I played with some Nokia Windows phones, and they are definitely a lot nicer--the progress in evolution of the mobile Windows OS has been dramatic.  I just still feel like having a simple field with icons on the front screen is somehow faster, but it's probably bias, coming from years of using Android (and iOS on my iPad).

[tp4tissue]

Windows phone is intriguing, but every time I've looked at one in stores, the UI felt less "immediate".  In other words, perhaps there are options to add specialized shortcuts to the start screen, but some things felt like they took a few actions to get to.  Still, I'm a fan of Windows 8, having used Windows 7 Pro since when it first became available for public testing, so I'm open-minded about Windows phones.  My first Windows phone was a Motorola MPx200:

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It was extremely slow, but small, and it was fun to think of having a mini Windows device, though very limited.  My next Windows phone was an HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5, which I used for a few weeks and then put a custom Android ROM onto it.  That phone is amazing and is still going strong through a few iterations of various ROMs.  I had looked into an HTC HD7 for Windows 7, but it just didn't seem appealing back when it came out.  Finally, recently I played with some Nokia Windows phones, and they are definitely a lot nicer--the progress in evolution of the mobile Windows OS has been dramatic.  I just still feel like having a simple field with icons on the front screen is somehow faster, but it's probably bias, coming from years of using Android (and iOS on my iPad).

did you use wp8 ? it's different than wp7

[elton5354]

iOS user here.


Sent from my iPhone

[tp4tissue]

iOS user here.


Sent from my iPhone

Windows 7

Sent from my PC

[Photoelectric]

Windows phone is intriguing, but every time I've looked at one in stores, the UI felt less "immediate".  In other words, perhaps there are options to add specialized shortcuts to the start screen, but some things felt like they took a few actions to get to.  Still, I'm a fan of Windows 8, having used Windows 7 Pro since when it first became available for public testing, so I'm open-minded about Windows phones.  My first Windows phone was a Motorola MPx200:

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It was extremely slow, but small, and it was fun to think of having a mini Windows device, though very limited.  My next Windows phone was an HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5, which I used for a few weeks and then put a custom Android ROM onto it.  That phone is amazing and is still going strong through a few iterations of various ROMs.  I had looked into an HTC HD7 for Windows 7, but it just didn't seem appealing back when it came out.  Finally, recently I played with some Nokia Windows phones, and they are definitely a lot nicer--the progress in evolution of the mobile Windows OS has been dramatic.  I just still feel like having a simple field with icons on the front screen is somehow faster, but it's probably bias, coming from years of using Android (and iOS on my iPad).

did you use wp8 ? it's different than wp7

Haven't really used, just played with for a while in a T-mobile store.  One of the cheaper Nokia Lumias.

[demik]

Windows phone is NOT better than android. Windows phone is absolute ****.

Have you used a windows phone?

I really don't see anything wrong with it.. It's got most of the stuff I use...

Certainly many android apps have an edge due to longer development and such, but there's really nothing of the typical phone suite, MISSING from WP8..

Yes. Hence why I made that comment. I had a lumia 920. No background processing. Browser back button becoming useless after you leave the app. Multiples of the same app in the multi task screen. And don't even get me started on skype.

[dustinhxc]

Android is good for large screens and good specs. I love the high processor specs and large screen sizes. iOS I love for stability and operating system reliability. Oh also iTunes compatibility.

[Michael]

Windows phone is NOT better than android. Windows phone is absolute ****.

Have you used a windows phone?

I really don't see anything wrong with it.. It's got most of the stuff I use...

Certainly many android apps have an edge due to longer development and such, but there's really nothing of the typical phone suite, MISSING from WP8..

Yes. Hence why I made that comment. I had a lumia 920. No background processing. Browser back button becoming useless after you leave the app. Multiples of the same app in the multi task screen. And don't even get me started on skype.

That's what I had. Don't judge them based on that **** phone. Also, Win8 is solid, fixed most of the issues people were complaining about.

[demik]

Yeah you warned me about getting it but I didn't listen

[kenmai9]

those with android make me jealous still.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Phototelectric.

Android is utter and complete ****. Hands down. If you get an android device, good luck ever getting a new OS within 6 months of it's release by google. The android market is so fragmented and inconsistent it's terrible. If you buy a top end ($150+ phone) you might get a year of updates from the carrier, pay anything less than that and LOL, you might get one update.

Granted, you do have a very thriving community of modders like cyanogenmod and xda-developers, but that requires phones that can be unlocked and jailbroken, which is coming few and far between from what I understand, carriers are starting to crack down on that ****...

Oh and don't get me started on Android cameras, compared to the speed of the iPhone cameras, and the quality/control of the Nokia camera (in the $200+ market) no Android device comes close.

There are two phones anyone should consider, iPhone if you want a safe choice, and Windows Phone if you're feeling adventurous.

Android's current state is such utter **** it's not even funny. I'm so happy I got out of that environment :/

Nexus 5 >> iphone

camera? let's agree all phone cameras suck, exception to the nokias

OS support.. what's wrong with android.. you mention problems.. what problems did you have exactly..

and honestly..

ALL APPS on android is free... forever...  Iphone, sometimes you gotta wait before you can 'arrrrgh-matey' it up.. between os jail-breaks.. that could be quite a few months in between..

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Nexus 5 GG

[eth0s]

Well, crap, like 3 months ago I got the Samsung Galaxy S4.  The camera isn't horrible.  But I don't really like it.  I guess I shoulda got something else.  I tried my niece's iPhone 5s, and that thing sucked too.  I haven't had a Nokia since back in the day when cellphones just made calls.



Plus, I hate google.  And I hate Verizon Wireless.  And I extra-hate AT&T.  What a sh!t company.  They still bump calls off their network, when it gets too busy. 

(I also hate rainy days, getting dog poop on my shoe, and mean people, but that's for another thread.)

[bazh]

Switch, people :v

[dustinhxc]

Well, crap, like 3 months ago I got the Samsung Galaxy S4.  The camera isn't horrible.  But I don't really like it.  I guess I shoulda got something else.  I tried my niece's iPhone 5s, and that thing sucked too.  I haven't had a Nokia since back in the day when cellphones just made calls.

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Plus, I hate google.  And I hate Verizon Wireless.  And I extra-hate AT&T.  What a sh!t company.  They still bump calls off their network, when it gets too busy. 

(I also hate rainy days, getting dog poop on my shoe, and mean people, but that's for another thread.)

I was just talking about my old Nokia today! I had a pink body that I replaced it with. It was the ****! It had no left or right arrows! Only used it for fast short texts or calls. Also it had snake. What a great, reliable, sturdy, indestructible phone!

[dante]

I just want a modern Nokia 3310 w/ better battery life

[iri]

there is no 6" screen iphone, which is why i use a galaxy mega made by **** YOU SAMSUNG

[yasuo]

i think nokia still better

[kenmai9]

there is no 6" screen iphone, which is why i use a galaxy mega made by **** YOU SAMSUNG

Imagine a tiny woman using this phone hahahah

[bazh]

there are no 6" smartphone better than 1520

[iri]

Imagine a tiny woman using this phone hahahah

i've seen tiny women operating such phones quite a few times.

[IPT]

Well, crap, like 3 months ago I got the Samsung Galaxy S4.  The camera isn't horrible.  But I don't really like it.  I guess I shoulda got something else.  I tried my niece's iPhone 5s, and that thing sucked too.  I haven't had a Nokia since back in the day when cellphones just made calls.

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Plus, I hate google.  And I hate Verizon Wireless.  And I extra-hate AT&T.  What a sh!t company.  They still bump calls off their network, when it gets too busy. 

(I also hate rainy days, getting dog poop on my shoe, and mean people, but that's for another thread.)

prob ofcourse is besides VZW, service is very spotty/****ty on all the other carriers here in NYC lol.

[dustinhxc]

Imagine a tiny woman using this phone hahahah

i've seen tiny women operating such phones quite a few times.

THatd be hilarious!!!!!

[iri]

that was fine actually.