Heat Acclimation

[tp4tissue]

Any one haz experience?

Is 1 week enough?


I've attempted 2 days thus far,  lots of sweating...  avoided AC

[Novus]

What

[tp4tissue]

What

according to internet..

you can train your body to work in high heat..

Thus reduce intense sweating under 90* F + situations,   AND... it's suppose to make you healthier.

[Badwrench]

You are looking at a minimum of 10 days, could be longer as it is different for each person.  Are you doing this to get ready for a hot job, too much $$ in A/C, or to increase your VO2 max? 

If the last one, you can train your body with forced intervals:

30/30 and 60/60 Intervals
A good way to introduce VO2max training into your program is with 30/30 and 60/60 intervals. Created by French exercise physiologist Veronique Billat, these workouts are effective fitness builders that are well tolerated by runners at a modest fitness level.
Start with 30/30 intervals. After warming up with at least 10 minutes of easy jogging, run 30 seconds hard, at the fastest pace you could hold for about six minutes in a race. Then slow to an easy jog for 30 seconds. Continue alternating fast and slow 30-second segments until you have completed at least 12 and as many as 20 of each.
Increase the number of 30/30 intervals you complete each time you do this workout, and then switch to 60/60 intervals. Start with at least six of these and build up to as many as 10.

[Novus]

Hot sauna.

[tp4tissue]

You are looking at a minimum of 10 days, could be longer as it is different for each person.  Are you doing this to get ready for a hot job, too much $$ in A/C, or to increase your VO2 max? 

If the last one, you can train your body with forced intervals:

30/30 and 60/60 Intervals
A good way to introduce VO2max training into your program is with 30/30 and 60/60 intervals. Created by French exercise physiologist Veronique Billat, these workouts are effective fitness builders that are well tolerated by runners at a modest fitness level.
Start with 30/30 intervals. After warming up with at least 10 minutes of easy jogging, run 30 seconds hard, at the fastest pace you could hold for about six minutes in a race. Then slow to an easy jog for 30 seconds. Continue alternating fast and slow 30-second segments until you have completed at least 12 and as many as 20 of each.
Increase the number of 30/30 intervals you complete each time you do this workout, and then switch to 60/60 intervals. Start with at least six of these and build up to as many as 10.

Very informative Bwrench, thxx

I am doing this because I've gained too much pudge... and I've become dependent on AC.. like an AC vampire..

[katushkin]

If you are going away somewhere for a long time, for the first seven days at least you shouldn't do anything strenuous. We were only given about a week to prepare before going away to a ****ty sandbowl.

What is it for exactly?

[rowdy]

Very informative Bwrench, thxx

I am doing this because I've gained too much pudge... and I've become dependent on AC.. like an AC vampire..

Your approach is commendable - I wish you every success.

[tp4tissue]

Very informative Bwrench, thxx

I am doing this because I've gained too much pudge... and I've become dependent on AC.. like an AC vampire..

Your approach is commendable - I wish you every success.

trying to reduce the overall "wetness" 

[rowdy]

Very informative Bwrench, thxx

I am doing this because I've gained too much pudge... and I've become dependent on AC.. like an AC vampire..

Your approach is commendable - I wish you every success.

trying to reduce the overall "wetness" 

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And in the process increasing your overall fitness and reducing your mass.

Although I sweat a lot - I always have done, even when I was at the peak of my physical condition.

[JPG]

Follow his training:

[tp4tissue]

Follow his training:

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Yea.. I heard it's much the same with Boat Engine room mechanics..

[Elrick]

trying to reduce the overall "wetness" 

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You've got 2 types of heat the Dry and the Humid high temps.  Of course in high humidity you will feel worse off because the body is trying to keep cool by sweating (natural process) hence you need to keep drinking water above all else if you sweat constantly during the day or night.

The Dry Heat is perfect because you don't sweat too much but you will lose massive amounts of water from your body.  I work in that type of habitat and I am use to it and have seen 150kg rock apes collapse into unconsciousness due to avoiding any liquid intake.

You will never get use to the heat unless you build up an internal tolerance to high heat.  Sometimes it gets so hot your eyes feel like their boiling in their sockets especially when it climbs to 49 and 51C (120 to 124F).  Just drink every 20 minutes in those temps and you will survive easily for another day.

[C5Allroad]

Well.... I train myself in the cold at home. Then open the inferno that is my car. Thanks leather. But then being in a cold house leads to you sweating a lot when you go outside you sweat a lot. I guess a way would be make it warmer in your house. Mine is at 70 all day, all night.

[tp4tissue]

Well.... I train myself in the cold at home. Then open the inferno that is my car. Thanks leather. But then being in a cold house leads to you sweating a lot when you go outside you sweat a lot. I guess a way would be make it warmer in your house. Mine is at 70 all day, all night.

that's the issue I'm no longer down with..  Losing the ability to accommodate..

Here's my logic..   

If you are acclimated to HEAT...  you can always just put more cloths on if the weather is COLD.

If you are acclimated to COLD... There's nothing you can do, your area of existence is necessarily Narrowed by the scope of electricity and air conditioning.. 

[C5Allroad]

And if you're acclimated to cold. Just pull the clothes off and vice versa.

[tbc]

my doctor told me it was a bad idea to pull off my skin after i pulled off all my clothes.  the cops told me it was a bad idea to pull off all my clothes.

[nar]

Well now that I've moved to Japan I need to walk around 30 minutes to the train station and then from the other end to work in weather that doesn't seem to ever get cooler than 35C and 60% humidity (Humidex around 42 for those of you who know what it is) during rush hour. Noticed I don't sweat insanely much now after about half a month of this.

[tp4tissue]

Well now that I've moved to Japan I need to walk around 30 minutes to the train station and then from the other end to work in weather that doesn't seem to ever get cooler than 35C and 60% humidity (Humidex around 42 for those of you who know what it is) during rush hour. Noticed I don't sweat insanely much now after about half a month of this.

35C... Holy hell...   I asked this girl once.. is it ever too hot for xx..  she said no..

Clearly she never dones it in 35C !!

[Elrick]

35C... Holy hell...   I asked this girl once.. is it ever too hot for xx..  she said no..

Clearly she never dones it in 35C !!

We do it on the back porch when it rises to 40C, she says it's the best workout plus a chance to go totally naked at the same time  .

[rowdy]

35C... Holy hell...   I asked this girl once.. is it ever too hot for xx..  she said no..

Clearly she never dones it in 35C !!

We do it on the back porch when it rises to 40C, she says it's the best workout plus a chance to go totally naked at the same time  .

I take it you live away from the big smoke?

[bueller]

I need to do some of this myself, I'm in good shape but football is going to kill me once the season starts. Because there are so many codes of football in Australia we get to play grid iron on stinking 40 degree Summer days instead of in Winter.

Probably going to die!

[Melvang]

trying to reduce the overall "wetness" 

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You've got 2 types of heat the Dry and the Humid high temps.  Of course in high humidity you will feel worse off because the body is trying to keep cool by sweating (natural process) hence you need to keep drinking water above all else if you sweat constantly during the day or night.

The Dry Heat is perfect because you don't sweat too much but you will lose massive amounts of water from your body.  I work in that type of habitat and I am use to it and have seen 150kg rock apes collapse into unconsciousness due to avoiding any liquid intake.

You actually sweat just as much in both types of environments.  You just notice it more in the humidity because the sweat doesn't have anywhere to evaporate to.  Believe me I have worked in very hot environmets. 

Flight deck of a US Navy aircraft carrier.  Let me list the conditions.

120°F+ on the thermometer
95%+ humidity
Denim long pants
8" leather steel toed work boots
long sleeve cotton turtle neck sweatshirt with sleeves rolled down and neck rolled up mandatory
Helmet with denim liner that goes down to the base of your neck
ski goggles type eye protection
ear muff style hearing protection
life jacket that was two layers of heavy denim
plus what ever tools I needed to carry in a heavy duty pouch that I wore like a single strap pack pack

I would drink 6 liters of water every day and not have to pee until right before bed and when I woke up in the morning.  I may have been on the edge of starting dehydration but my pee was not to dark to worry about so I kept with that water intake.  And I never passed out, never got the headaches, nothing.  I did this for 6 months and still would rather work in 3 feet of snow than the summer.

[katushkin]

You actually sweat just as much in both types of environments.  You just notice it more in the humidity because the sweat doesn't have anywhere to evaporate to.  Believe me I have worked in very hot environmets. 

Flight deck of a US Navy aircraft carrier.  Let me list the conditions.

120°F+ on the thermometer
95%+ humidity
Denim long pants
8" leather steel toed work boots
long sleeve cotton turtle neck sweatshirt with sleeves rolled down and neck rolled up mandatory
Helmet with denim liner that goes down to the base of your neck
ski goggles type eye protection
ear muff style hearing protection
life jacket that was two layers of heavy denim
plus what ever tools I needed to carry in a heavy duty pouch that I wore like a single strap pack pack

I would drink 6 liters of water every day and not have to pee until right before bed and when I woke up in the morning.  I may have been on the edge of starting dehydration but my pee was not to dark to worry about so I kept with that water intake.  And I never passed out, never got the headaches, nothing.  I did this for 6 months and still would rather work in 3 feet of snow than the summer.

I am so ****ing jealous of you right now. If I could do my military career over, I would have joined the US Navy on a Nimitz class...

The worst I had was driving a tank, with the engine right next to me, hot wind blowing over the exhaust bringing even hotter air into my face, full CBRN suit, respirator and helmet, for 12 hours in Alberta during the height of summer.

It was so fun...

[Melvang]

You actually sweat just as much in both types of environments.  You just notice it more in the humidity because the sweat doesn't have anywhere to evaporate to.  Believe me I have worked in very hot environmets. 

Flight deck of a US Navy aircraft carrier.  Let me list the conditions.

120°F+ on the thermometer
95%+ humidity
Denim long pants
8" leather steel toed work boots
long sleeve cotton turtle neck sweatshirt with sleeves rolled down and neck rolled up mandatory
Helmet with denim liner that goes down to the base of your neck
ski goggles type eye protection
ear muff style hearing protection
life jacket that was two layers of heavy denim
plus what ever tools I needed to carry in a heavy duty pouch that I wore like a single strap pack pack

I would drink 6 liters of water every day and not have to pee until right before bed and when I woke up in the morning.  I may have been on the edge of starting dehydration but my pee was not to dark to worry about so I kept with that water intake.  And I never passed out, never got the headaches, nothing.  I did this for 6 months and still would rather work in 3 feet of snow than the summer.

I am so ****ing jealous of you right now. If I could do my military career over, I would have joined the US Navy on a Nimitz class...

The worst I had was driving a tank, with the engine right next to me, hot wind blowing over the exhaust bringing even hotter air into my face, full CBRN suit, respirator and helmet, for 12 hours in Alberta during the height of summer.

It was so fun...

Sounds like it

One thing I forgot to mention was the hot jet turbine exhaust blowing all over you.

[Elrick]

I take it you live away from the big smoke?

On a 7 acre block.  Planted heaps of bushes and trees around but she actually doesn't care if anyone is looking at her when she walks around the house.

I on the other hand still need to be in my shorts because I wasn't raised to walk around all buff just in case someone might drop by.  In the summer though very few people tend to move about due to the heat anyway.

Usually for me there's nothing better than sitting there in the heat and sipping a nice cold glass of god's nectar, Copper's Vintage  .

[bueller]

trying to reduce the overall "wetness" 

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You've got 2 types of heat the Dry and the Humid high temps.  Of course in high humidity you will feel worse off because the body is trying to keep cool by sweating (natural process) hence you need to keep drinking water above all else if you sweat constantly during the day or night.

The Dry Heat is perfect because you don't sweat too much but you will lose massive amounts of water from your body.  I work in that type of habitat and I am use to it and have seen 150kg rock apes collapse into unconsciousness due to avoiding any liquid intake.

You actually sweat just as much in both types of environments.  You just notice it more in the humidity because the sweat doesn't have anywhere to evaporate to.  Believe me I have worked in very hot environmets. 

Flight deck of a US Navy aircraft carrier.  Let me list the conditions.

120°F+ on the thermometer
95%+ humidity
Denim long pants
8" leather steel toed work boots
long sleeve cotton turtle neck sweatshirt with sleeves rolled down and neck rolled up mandatory
Helmet with denim liner that goes down to the base of your neck
ski goggles type eye protection
ear muff style hearing protection
life jacket that was two layers of heavy denim
plus what ever tools I needed to carry in a heavy duty pouch that I wore like a single strap pack pack

I would drink 6 liters of water every day and not have to pee until right before bed and when I woke up in the morning.  I may have been on the edge of starting dehydration but my pee was not to dark to worry about so I kept with that water intake.  And I never passed out, never got the headaches, nothing.  I did this for 6 months and still would rather work in 3 feet of snow than the summer.

Good god man. I used to unload 40 foot sea containers by hand in the heat of summer but I didn't have to wear all that kit. Even then I passed out in the back a couple of times from heat exhaustion!

[Melvang]

The life jacket was for obvious reasons.  The denim pants, cotton turtle neck, and the denim liner with ski style goggles was in case of a fire you didn't have to go change to help put it out.  You already had fire retardent clothing.

[Elrick]

I would drink 6 liters of water every day and not have to pee until right before bed and when I woke up in the morning.  I may have been on the edge of starting dehydration but my pee was not to dark to worry about so I kept with that water intake.  And I never passed out, never got the headaches, nothing.  I did this for 6 months and still would rather work in 3 feet of snow than the summer.

I'm the opposite I would now rather work in extreme heat because my joints all freeze up in the cold.  The summer loosens me up immediately and everything works perfectly, especially when you're old.

One time I had actually drunk a little over 10 liters in water due to me emptying an entire water bucket in a day.  Usually you can tell if your dehydrated if the piss is a dark yellow in colour but I usually pee clear hence have avoided any troubles in the past no matter how hot it got.

I suppose I'm now in full training for my residence in hell when the final bell tolls so looking forward to it, just would love sitting there in the flames for eternity.

[Hak Foo]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

[tp4tissue]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

I heard thailand is hotter..

[Belfong]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

I heard thailand is hotter..

Ask me!

I'm in Malaysia and we are at 33C for 365 days a year. No problem. Yes , one sweat a lot but that's normal. We are used to it. But these days it's so hot that the forest starts to burn and the cities are covered in haze. I'm dying soon. Who wants my skulls?

You guys are sissy when it comes to heat! Ha ha! /jk!

[rowdy]

If it's that kind of temperature all the time, then you'd be used to it, or at least have established practices in place to help you cope with it.

Melbourne goes from about 0 degrees overnight in winter to 46 degrees during the day in summer.

If you can cope with one, you'd struggle with the other.

[tp4tissue]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

I heard thailand is hotter..

Ask me!

I'm in Malaysia and we are at 33C for 365 days a year. No problem. Yes , one sweat a lot but that's normal. We are used to it. But these days it's so hot that the forest starts to burn and the cities are covered in haze. I'm dying soon. Who wants my skulls?

You guys are sissy when it comes to heat! Ha ha! /jk!

And yet, I see ya'll drinking coffee and eating bread... How can you do those things in hot weather..

[Belfong]

It taste really good dipping bread into hot coffee!!

Well, it's kinda cool inside the house even though the temp outside is seriously hot. I guess the design of the house using bricks does shade some of the heat away. And we usually we loose shirts, so that helps.

Even then, I still dislike the humid and the sweat. So, there is no getting used to it, rowdy.

[rowdy]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

I heard thailand is hotter..

Ask me!

I'm in Malaysia and we are at 33C for 365 days a year. No problem. Yes , one sweat a lot but that's normal. We are used to it. But these days it's so hot that the forest starts to burn and the cities are covered in haze. I'm dying soon. Who wants my skulls?

You guys are sissy when it comes to heat! Ha ha! /jk!

And yet, I see ya'll drinking coffee and eating bread... How can you do those things in hot weather..

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Not much worse than eating ice cream during winter.

[Melvang]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

I heard thailand is hotter..

Ask me!

I'm in Malaysia and we are at 33C for 365 days a year. No problem. Yes , one sweat a lot but that's normal. We are used to it. But these days it's so hot that the forest starts to burn and the cities are covered in haze. I'm dying soon. Who wants my skulls?

You guys are sissy when it comes to heat! Ha ha! /jk!

And yet, I see ya'll drinking coffee and eating bread... How can you do those things in hot weather..

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Not much worse than eating ice cream during winter.

I must be the odd ball.  I eat more ice cream in the winter but I also do more grilling in the winter when it is below freezing.  I have been known to shovel a path to my grill before I shovel my sidewalk.

[tp4tissue]

This is the 4th day so far...

I feel like it's working..

Before I was breaking a sweat at 80 F..  I can tolerate a good 85ish now....  But If I push 87-90... I still go  Plehhhh....

[Grim Fandango]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

Some people can with heat better than others. . Sometimes when I am with my girlfriend and we are sitting somewhere out in the sun. I will be visibly sweating, uncomfortable and looking like a mess, while she is just sitting there without a drop of sweat completely relaxed.

I really think your resistance to heat is genetic more than anything else.

[tp4tissue]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

Some people can with heat better than others. . Sometimes when I am with my girlfriend and we are sitting somewhere out in the sun. I will be visibly sweating, uncomfortable and looking like a mess, while she is just sitting there without a drop of sweat completely relaxed.

I really think your resistance to heat is genetic more than anything else.

are you Phat? and is she not-Phat?

[JaccoW]

During my work I come into contact with a lot of clients and colleagues who travel all over the globe.
Generally speaking it takes you 3 weeks to get used to any climate shift.

Your general blood flow, sex and build (fat vs skinny) do factor in here.

Female bodies focus heat in the rump, shutting off the blood flow to the extremities. Men have a much more constant flow and take longer to feel cold. Being taller and bigger in general helps too.

Being overweight and short means you will retain heat much easier and losing heat becomes more difficult. That is all down to relative surface area.

Having a good stamina however can help significantly.
A few years ago we had a really cold winter -10 C (14 F), high humidity due to living close to the sea and harsh winds made it difficult to go outside.
However, one colleague of mine worked as an instructor at our ice climbing wall the entire winter and often spent most of his days at -20 C (-4 F).
Whenever the day was over and we got outside we all packed up with gloves, hats, down jackets with wind and waterproof shells on top. Him? He just rode off on his bike in a t-shirt. His body had acclimatised and he produced enough heat while cycling to not get cold or ill.

The same thing works the other way around.
Be active in heat long enough (while staying hydrated) and you will get used to it and your body will shut down certain processes and produce less heat.

TL;DR

- Don't be fat
- Be fit
- Stay hydrated
- Be patient

[tp4tissue]

During my work I come into contact with a lot of clients and colleagues who travel all over the globe.
Generally speaking it takes you 3 weeks to get used to any climate shift.

Your general blood flow, sex and build (fat vs skinny) do factor in here.

Female bodies focus heat in the rump, shutting off the blood flow to the extremities. Men have a much more constant flow and take longer to feel cold. Being taller and bigger in general helps too.

Being overweight and short means you will retain heat much easier and losing heat becomes more difficult. That is all down to relative surface area.

Having a good stamina however can help significantly.
A few years ago we had a really cold winter -10 C (14 F), high humidity due to living close to the sea and harsh winds made it difficult to go outside.
However, one colleague of mine worked as an instructor at our ice climbing wall the entire winter and often spent most of his days at -20 C (-4 F).
Whenever the day was over and we got outside we all packed up with gloves, hats, down jackets with wind and waterproof shells on top. Him? He just rode off on his bike in a t-shirt. His body had acclimatised and he produced enough heat while cycling to not get cold or ill.

The same thing works the other way around.
Be active in heat long enough (while staying hydrated) and you will get used to it and your body will shut down certain processes and produce less heat.

TL;DR

- Don't be fat
- Be fit
- Stay hydrated
- Be patient

I am trying my best to not be phat... There's boxes of uneaten icecream in the freezer this month...

[Novus]

During my work I come into contact with a lot of clients and colleagues who travel all over the globe.
Generally speaking it takes you 3 weeks to get used to any climate shift.

Your general blood flow, sex and build (fat vs skinny) do factor in here.

Female bodies focus heat in the rump, shutting off the blood flow to the extremities. Men have a much more constant flow and take longer to feel cold. Being taller and bigger in general helps too.

Being overweight and short means you will retain heat much easier and losing heat becomes more difficult. That is all down to relative surface area.

Having a good stamina however can help significantly.
A few years ago we had a really cold winter -10 C (14 F), high humidity due to living close to the sea and harsh winds made it difficult to go outside.
However, one colleague of mine worked as an instructor at our ice climbing wall the entire winter and often spent most of his days at -20 C (-4 F).
Whenever the day was over and we got outside we all packed up with gloves, hats, down jackets with wind and waterproof shells on top. Him? He just rode off on his bike in a t-shirt. His body had acclimatised and he produced enough heat while cycling to not get cold or ill.

The same thing works the other way around.
Be active in heat long enough (while staying hydrated) and you will get used to it and your body will shut down certain processes and produce less heat.

TL;DR

- Don't be fat
- Be fit
- Stay hydrated
- Be patient

I am trying my best to not be phat... There's boxes of uneaten icecream in the freezer this month...

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Donate em to the red ridding robbins endangered wolf foundation for eating hoods

[Grim Fandango]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

Some people can with heat better than others. . Sometimes when I am with my girlfriend and we are sitting somewhere out in the sun. I will be visibly sweating, uncomfortable and looking like a mess, while she is just sitting there without a drop of sweat completely relaxed.

I really think your resistance to heat is genetic more than anything else.

are you Phat? and is she not-Phat?

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Neither of us is phat XD . I am not some large overweight guy sweating up a storm.

I just do not get used to the heat and sweat easily. I spend 200 km a week on my roadbike in this heat, and when I get back home from a ride I am soaked through. I am not allowed to sit or touch anything until I have had a shower :(. After she goes jogging you can only see her forehead glistening with a tiny bit of sweat.

[tp4tissue]

It gets to 45C here every summer, approaching 50 at the worst.  It never gets better.

Some people can with heat better than others. . Sometimes when I am with my girlfriend and we are sitting somewhere out in the sun. I will be visibly sweating, uncomfortable and looking like a mess, while she is just sitting there without a drop of sweat completely relaxed.

I really think your resistance to heat is genetic more than anything else.

are you Phat? and is she not-Phat?

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Neither of us is phat XD . I am not some large overweight guy sweating up a storm.

I just do not get used to the heat and sweat easily. I spend 200 km a week on my roadbike in this heat, and when I get back home from a ride I am soaked through. I am not allowed to sit or touch anything until I have had a shower :(. After she goes jogging you can only see her forehead glistening with a tiny bit of sweat.

Hrrmm...  either your wife is a secret spy who goes out and do secret stuff like Ajolie.. or she went to the icecream shop and TOLD YOU that she came back from a jog..

[Melvang]

Some people just sweat more.  I have a friend and when we were in high school we were both in fairly decent shape and he would sweat just sitting in a chair at 75°F.  He was one of the few friends that could keep up with me on a bike for more than 2 miles.  He just sweat more.