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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 03:27:43 »
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server  :))

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 04:25:26 »
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server  :))

Life before SSD was of oppression and violence...   When man waited those seconds for an application to load.. their souls cracked and evanesced into darkness, even the memories of sky wilted and Died..

SSD is the phoenix tear to our crippled will, our resurrection, the icy-sword to vindicate against the malevolence perpetrated by Load-Times..

Strike back brothers.. now in human hand is the temporal essence of a righteous God.. 



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Re: People who don't use an SSD...
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:31:59 »
But such joyful insanity!

At the cost of the sanity of the Ssd users.

went to this dude's house.. needed to use his computer,  turned it on, sat there stared at it..  I thought it was broken... 3 minutes later, it was booted..  then it took another minute to load firefox..

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:25:03 »
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server  :))

Life before SSD was of oppression and violence...   When man waited those seconds for an application to load.. their souls cracked and evanesced into darkness, even the memories of sky wilted and Died..

SSD is the phoenix tear to our crippled will, our resurrection, the icy-sword to vindicate against the malevolence perpetrated by Load-Times..

Strike back brothers.. now in human hand is the temporal essence of a righteous God.. 


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cray 1m and X-MP had an SSD back in 1982. Here's the cool part: it could read at 2000 Megabytes per second. This was only surpassed very recently.


Sadly the capacity was only 1 gb.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:33:35 »
Random Question:
Just bought a 120GB SSD for the boot drive on this ghetto rig I'm working on.

Got sent 2, so I have a spare 120GB SSD that i need something to do with, I already have a 250GB boot drive in my main rig alongside a storage HDD any thoughts one what I can do with it?
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:43:56 »
Random Question:
Just bought a 120GB SSD for the boot drive on this ghetto rig I'm working on.

Got sent 2, so I have a spare 120GB SSD that i need something to do with, I already have a 250GB boot drive in my main rig alongside a storage HDD any thoughts one what I can do with it?
get a sata to USB3 enclosure for it and have a really fast flashdrive.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 14:04:52 »
Random Question:
Just bought a 120GB SSD for the boot drive on this ghetto rig I'm working on.

Got sent 2, so I have a spare 120GB SSD that i need something to do with, I already have a 250GB boot drive in my main rig alongside a storage HDD any thoughts one what I can do with it?

Hrrrmmm... you can always setup ur drives to spin off, and use for torrents so it doesn't wake ur drives.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:27:18 »
Time to move onto M.2 PCI-E x4 lanes people, be aware of your options!

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:51:35 »
Time to move onto M.2 PCI-E x4 lanes people, be aware of your options!

Nice option, but the fact that it uses PCI-E lanes means that it takes up GPU capability. More than one M.2 will kill your GPU options. Until they come out with dedicated lanes for M.2, it's a no go for many gamers, folders, and benchers. Incidentally, those people are the ones to whom M.2 speed is attractive and who will be willing to spend the money on it. Your average consumer won't.
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:47:22 »
Time to move onto M.2 PCI-E x4 lanes people, be aware of your options!

Nice option, but the fact that it uses PCI-E lanes means that it takes up GPU capability. More than one M.2 will kill your GPU options. Until they come out with dedicated lanes for M.2, it's a no go for many gamers, folders, and benchers. Incidentally, those people are the ones to whom M.2 speed is attractive and who will be willing to spend the money on it. Your average consumer won't.

Derrrr.........  There isn't any advantage to M2 for most people since most ssds can't do more than 40MB/s random 4k reads..

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 23:14:38 »
Just installed Manjaro Linux on my desktop PC with an SSD. It's smooth beyond belief. Also, RAM usage is down from around 30% while idling (Win 7) to 12% (Manjaro). I haven't used a Linux distro in years, but I don't see myself going back to Windows anytime soon.

SSD + Linux = Awesome

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 23:19:03 »
Just installed Manjaro Linux on my desktop PC with an SSD. It's smooth beyond belief. Also, RAM usage is down from around 30% while idling (Win 7) to 12% (Manjaro). I haven't used a Linux distro in years, but I don't see myself going back to Windows anytime soon.

SSD + Linux = Awesome

Yeah, when I switches to #! my default RAM usage was under 100 mb. More RAM for eBay keyboard and GH tabs!

Boot it up once with the -toram cheatcode and try that for a while. it's insane.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 23:37:08 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 00:09:13 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 00:11:54 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
I think I prefer Dassault systems' products to autodesk's but Maya is like way easier to use than blender.

b'sides you can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.

For someone that loves fiddling with technology but has a very limited coding knowledge, should I try linux? I have wanted to try it just for fun, but I play a lot of games.. I was thinking of putting it on a flash drive?

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 00:24:24 »
I think so. I first gave it a shot back in 2004-2005 when linux wasn't very user friendly. It's much easier now. Linux mint is a good choice.

I had no idea how to use the command line, and for many things nowadays it isn't required. I started to learn by enabling features and fixing problems, usually by copying and pasting things from the internet and reading the manpages of everything. Slowly, I began to learn.

So you can use it without any knowledge of programming or anything, but you will almost always pick things up along the way. If you aren't afraid to learn, Arch linux  is a good one to try as it politely forces you to learn how things work. It can be a lot of fun.

I say: give it a shot. Can't hurt (usually). I'd say the worst thing that's easy to do is to delete, format or repartition your hard drive, but that's easy to recover. Overwriting your hard drive is worse (take agessss to recover) but much harder to do by mistake.

Don't forget to try the -toram cheatcode to load the entire OS to memory (at which point you can remove the flash drive) To enable this, you go to the boot splash screen, and edit the option (usually you press "tab", but I added a dedicated "ram only" option to my list after a while to save time) at the very end of the (usually unnecessarily long) list of options and things add a space and "-toram" and see if it works. Go and make hot cocoa while it's reading the entire contents of the fashdrive into memory and then see what it's like.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 00:36:01 »
Sounds good thanks dorkvader!  :thumb: I will read into the different versions and the process a bit more then maybe give it a shot! I love fiddling!

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 01:33:18 »
Late to the conversation but 100% agree with tp4tissue! If you have a high end KB and aren't running an SSD something is wrong. SSDs changed my life, so much so that even my non-techie never spends money on technology friend bought my old 128GB SSD when I upgraded to a 256. You need an SSD for your OS just do it :) I am even thinking of getting a small one for my media server  :))

Life before SSD was of oppression and violence...   When man waited those seconds for an application to load.. their souls cracked and evanesced into darkness, even the memories of sky wilted and Died..

SSD is the phoenix tear to our crippled will, our resurrection, the icy-sword to vindicate against the malevolence perpetrated by Load-Times..

Strike back brothers.. now in human hand is the temporal essence of a righteous God.. 


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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 03:07:14 »
Also.. Trick for the n00bs...  Install Intel AHCI RST drivers.. it gives you anywhere between 10-20% performance boost on your ssd

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 07:04:08 »
Also.. Trick for the n00bs...  Install Intel AHCI RST drivers.. it gives you anywhere between 10-20% performance boost on your ssd
Also the Intel SSD toolbox can be quite useful. Planned TRIM!
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 10:16:55 »
Also.. Trick for the n00bs...  Install Intel AHCI RST drivers.. it gives you anywhere between 10-20% performance boost on your ssd

A better filesystem (JFS or reiserFS, etc.) should get you that as well.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 11:24:01 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.

Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 13:47:20 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.

Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...

hahaha.. well if you got servers at the office.. there's vm

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:37:10 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.

Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...

No it doesn't. Dual booting is when you have 2 OSs on one HD. This way you have 2 OSs on 2 storage media. Completely different and very easy.

Believe me, I know how difficult and stupid dual booting can be, I struggled with it back when I first started using linux where things were not as easy. I know all about it.

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:57:02 »
I would LOVE to run Linux. Unfortunately, Autodesk products (AutoCAD, 3dsMax, Maya), only run on Windows (and recently and limitedly on MacOS). Since Autodesk is how I make my living, I'm kinda stuck.
You can use your windows machine for work, and linux for everything else. GH, watching movies, etc. I'm about this close |---| to switching to linux as my main and only using windows for gaming or otherwise useful applications that require it.

Unfortunately that requires dual booting, and I'm not a fan of that. That way lies madness...

No it doesn't. Dual booting is when you have 2 OSs on one HD. This way you have 2 OSs on 2 storage media. Completely different and very easy.

Believe me, I know how difficult and stupid dual booting can be, I struggled with it back when I first started using linux where things were not as easy. I know all about it.

so u want to NOT dual boot,  just have 2 drives, and select upon boot ?

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:16:35 »
I got 2 topics confused. I recommded another guy install windows to a flashdrive.

Me, I don't dual boot, I have a computer dedicated to each OS, for a variety of reasons.

when I need 2 OSs on one computer, I will either dual-boot or have separate drives depending on what I need.
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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #126 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:00:30 »
you guys remember when they used like 20 samsung ssds drives to get a measly 2000MB/s on a $500 raid card..

hahahahaha...

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Re: SSD Awareness month !!
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:27:10 »
Why not just get IDE DOMS? They come in 40 and 44 pin and have WAY better write endurance and some of the 'industrial' rated variants have good internal garbage collection which is great for running older trim unaware OS on. They are also usually cheaper than CF cards these days. You can sometimes find them with ZIF interface for older iPods as well so you don't have to **** about with messy converters.

wait, why would u need dom for a desktop

I'm talking about using them for old machines... like intel 286 era stuff. Things that old you can't just pop in a sata ssd, and even with add on cards you're limited to ISA stuff so no joy on adding some sata. Lots of them won't even recognize disks over 1GB. DOMs are a great choice for those kind of things so you can pitch the old funky slow as hell xxxMB size HDDs. I have one in my old itx Athlon machine for 98/DOS games. It's almost instant on.
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